The Porsche GT allocation system...a good video view

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jayemm89 said:

av185 said:

Nice to know you are clearly fawning over this classic verbal diahhrea spouted as fact from some sweaty overweight self important blokey with greasy hair which has been regurgitated at least a thousand times. Quite remarkable anyone actually managed to endure the whole clip think I managed around 7 or 8 mins had to turn off or I'd die of serious boredom and knowing he had actually robbed me of part of my life.

Best bit was when he sincerely says 'trust me'.

Perhaps Porsche should seriously consider employing him for his enviable business and marketing acumen in order to improve sales. :


Thanks for posting RDMG btw ...it was mildly amusing!

Somebody asked why I don't post much in some of these threads. Here is your answer.

Still, 8 minutes would mean you watched for more than average. So cheers.

Edited by jayemm89 on Saturday 6th March 23:38

I did wonder if you would pop in here to defend yourself James. As someone who has followed your channel since episode 1 personally it’s nice to know your still reading in here every now and again.

I don’t always agree with your opinions but it would be a boring world if we all agreed on everything.

With regard to AV185s comments if you have to result to personal attacks of someone’s appearance not what the actual discussion was about you have already lost the argument. You just made yourself look like a bitter prat.

Oh James good luck with the Lambo, did not see that coming.

[jayemm89]

That makes two of us....

There is also plenty more Porsche content coming to the channel. Shot a video the other day with an as original Iris Blue 993 C2 and it was magnificent

[Taffy66]

jayemm89 said:

That makes two of us....

There is also plenty more Porsche content coming to the channel. Shot a video the other day with an as original Iris Blue 993 C2 and it was magnificent

As an owner of a Grigio Ferro 488GTB i really enjoyed your very positive driving review. As you quite rightly say its an absolute gem of a car and somewhat overlooked under the shadow of the last NA V8 458. Great value at £100K under what it cost new. Started watching your 992 vs 718GTS last night and will now watch the rest of it.

[Rojibo]

Always hear people saying there are an excess of GT4's with no buyers but no one has the evidence, sadly friends ringing round cannot get allocations. I do wonder if the rumour was started simply as someone's wishful thinking. I do think the lull will pick up and demand will outstrip supply in short order as everyone rushes to spend money now they're no longer under house arrest..

Cheapest on the OPC network appears to be this one, which I think is a few k under list, but does have 8k miles...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

[Rojibo]

Mad Scientist said:

This bloke mentions his Ferrari in every thread, FYI.

If he doesn’t, he will mention his WP 3RS.

Talk about thread hi jack.

How does one get banned from here, because I can’t help coming back despite the constant drivel. It’s like a perpetual punishment I inflict on myself.

I keep hoping there will be something interesting one day.

I know exactly how you feel, it's a love hate thing, but also a source of social interaction I'm so badly missing out on right now... Don't quite feel the same way about PH, but other.. imageboards that I can't seem to stay away from... Besides, if you got banned you could still read but not post, and surely that's a worse fate?

[av185]

Rojibo said:

Always hear people saying there are an excess of GT4's with no buyers but no one has the evidence, sadly friends ringing round cannot get allocations. I do wonder if the rumour was started simply as someone's wishful thinking. I do think the lull will pick up and demand will outstrip supply in short order as everyone rushes to spend money now they're no longer under house arrest..

Cheapest on the OPC network appears to be this one, which I think is a few k under list, but does have 8k miles...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

Yep it is largely the usual internet and forum folklore happened with the 981 GT4 too nothing new I know at least two established OPC customers who cannot get allocations even for manuals never mind PDKs. Also be interesting to see the affects of halting production by summer which looks increasingly likely now. Only 296 UK cars by last third quarter.

That red car is an early first run 2019 car with relatively high miles at 8k.

Slightly under list ££ looks a good price.

[Rojibo]

Mad Scientist said:

Some sort of purgatory either way.

If you genuinely know someone that wants a GT4 allocation I might be able to help. PM me.

That’s very nice of you. I shall ask and time to see how serious he is.

[GT4RS]

av185 said:

Rojibo said:

Always hear people saying there are an excess of GT4's with no buyers but no one has the evidence, sadly friends ringing round cannot get allocations. I do wonder if the rumour was started simply as someone's wishful thinking. I do think the lull will pick up and demand will outstrip supply in short order as everyone rushes to spend money now they're no longer under house arrest..

Cheapest on the OPC network appears to be this one, which I think is a few k under list, but does have 8k miles...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

Yep it is largely the usual internet and forum folklore happened with the 981 GT4 too nothing new I know at least two established OPC customers who cannot get allocations even for manuals never mind PDKs. Also be interesting to see the affects of halting production by summer which looks increasingly likely now. Only 296 UK cars by last third quarter.

That red car is an early first run 2019 car with relatively high miles at 8k.

Slightly under list ££ looks a good price.

It wasn’t that long ago you were talking down the 718 gt4 saying how poor it was and how readily acuity will be as it not a 991.2 gt3. Look how the table has turned now you managed to get your hands on one 🤣

Next you will be saying the gt4 spyder gt4 isn’t worthy of the GT badge like you say the 991.2 gt3 touring is due to it holding its money better!

[av185]

GT4RS said:

av185 said:

Rojibo said:

Always hear people saying there are an excess of GT4's with no buyers but no one has the evidence, sadly friends ringing round cannot get allocations. I do wonder if the rumour was started simply as someone's wishful thinking. I do think the lull will pick up and demand will outstrip supply in short order as everyone rushes to spend money now they're no longer under house arrest..

Cheapest on the OPC network appears to be this one, which I think is a few k under list, but does have 8k miles...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

Yep it is largely the usual internet and forum folklore happened with the 981 GT4 too nothing new I know at least two established OPC customers who cannot get allocations even for manuals never mind PDKs. Also be interesting to see the affects of halting production by summer which looks increasingly likely now. Only 296 UK cars by last third quarter.

That red car is an early first run 2019 car with relatively high miles at 8k.

Slightly under list ££ looks a good price.

It wasn’t that long ago you were talking down the 718 gt4 saying how poor it was and how readily acuity will be as it not a 991.2 gt3. Look how the table has turned now you managed to get your hands on one ??

Next you will be saying the gt4 spyder gt4 isn’t worthy of the GT badge like you say the 991.2 gt3 touring is due to it holding its money better!

Haha you are either making things up again or confusing me with 911R!!

I am truly honoured...not!

For your info I took delivery of my new GT4 last November not recently lol.

[GT4RS]

av185 said:

GT4RS said:

av185 said:

Rojibo said:

Always hear people saying there are an excess of GT4's with no buyers but no one has the evidence, sadly friends ringing round cannot get allocations. I do wonder if the rumour was started simply as someone's wishful thinking. I do think the lull will pick up and demand will outstrip supply in short order as everyone rushes to spend money now they're no longer under house arrest..

Cheapest on the OPC network appears to be this one, which I think is a few k under list, but does have 8k miles...
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

Yep it is largely the usual internet and forum folklore happened with the 981 GT4 too nothing new I know at least two established OPC customers who cannot get allocations even for manuals never mind PDKs. Also be interesting to see the affects of halting production by summer which looks increasingly likely now. Only 296 UK cars by last third quarter.

That red car is an early first run 2019 car with relatively high miles at 8k.

Slightly under list ££ looks a good price.

It wasn’t that long ago you were talking down the 718 gt4 saying how poor it was and how readily acuity will be as it not a 991.2 gt3. Look how the table has turned now you managed to get your hands on one ??

Next you will be saying the gt4 spyder gt4 isn’t worthy of the GT badge like you say the 991.2 gt3 touring is due to it holding its money better!

Haha you are either making things up again or confusing me with 911R!!

I am truly honoured...not!

For your info I took delivery of my new GT4 last November not recently lol.

And you have been banging that drum since Christmas 🤣

I’m not going lie I thought you and 911r could of been the same person at one point when you were saying how great your 911.2 gt3 spec cars were over others.

Obviously it though

Either way, I hope you enjoy the gt4

[Taffy66]

av185 said:

Haha you are either making things up again or confusing me with 911R!!

I am truly honoured...not!

For your info I took delivery of my new GT4 last November not recently lol.

I haven't driven a 718GT4 so really interested how you compare it with your old 981 version. Personally if i was getting one i think i'd plump for the PDK as it seems to share a lot with the GT3/RS PDKS.

[Rojibo]

Mad Scientist said:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

How about this one then? Half the miles and about 7k under list?

About £3k under list no?

[L.Len]

Be interesting to see when the 1st pdk 718 gt4 hit the used market

[av185]

Mad Scientist said:

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/718-Cayman-GT4...

How about this one then? Half the miles and about 7k under list?

Good spec c5k miler 1 year old 20 plate around £4k under list.

Like you say better value than the 8k miler for sure.

[GT4RS]

Mad Scientist said:

av185 said:

Good spec c5k miler 1 year old 20 plate around £4k under list.

Like you say better value than the 8k miler for sure.

It’s 6k

That quite a bath in 1 year, being retailed at 6k under list so add another 8k to 10k loss on that for it’s first owner.

16k depreciation in 12 months is a lot on a car of this value

[av185]

Taffy66 said:

av185 said:

Haha you are either making things up again or confusing me with 911R!!

I am truly honoured...not!

For your info I took delivery of my new GT4 last November not recently lol.

I haven't driven a 718GT4 so really interested how you compare it with your old 981 version. Personally if i was getting one i think i'd plump for the PDK as it seems to share a lot with the GT3/RS PDKS.

Enjoyed the 981 Taff but let down by its boggo C2S engine with dire economy although tbh it sounded good and made a good all round road car and decent package at the money. Personally I preferred my 981 Spyder (even with over farty exhaust in sport plus) which was more usable especially for road trips to the Lakes etc with better front clearance than the GT4. Also it didn't have to try it was just a more complete all round package imo.

The 718 Spyder sounds great I know Richard loves his although like a few others he's added aftermarket exhaust.

The 718 GT4 seems more grown up than the 981 the engine is certainly far better and stronger more of a GT ethos higher revving etc and almost half way to a GT3 engine although sound is less good clearly. The other aspect is the clutch which like the GT3 is too light for a GT Porsche. In this respect the 981 GT4 and Spyder had almost perfect clutch weighting imo.

[av185]

GT4RS said:

I’m not going lie I thought you and 911r could of been the same person at one point when you were saying how great your 911.2 gt3 spec cars were over others.

Go and drive a gen 2 GT3 CS manual then and you might understand why they are considered by many to be the sweetspot.

[av185]

GT4RS said:

That quite a bath in 1 year, being retailed at 6k under list so add another 8k to 10k loss on that for it’s first owner.

16k depreciation in 12 months is a lot on a car of this value

If you pay £10k for your OPC to sell a car they have robbed you/seen you coming for sure.

My OPC sells my cars and many other customers cars for £3k irrespective of value.

[GT4RS]

Mad Scientist said:

GT4RS said:

That quite a bath in 1 year, being retailed at 6k under list so add another 8k to 10k loss on that for it’s first owner.

16k depreciation in 12 months is a lot on a car of this value

It’s SOR so probably add another 5k to the bath. Maybe 11 or 12k in a year. Grand a month to own and use a car like that not bad really?

Sorry wasn’t aware the owner was trying to sor it, makes sense for the opc not to tie up there own cash considering it’s loosing like you say a grand a month at present.

How times have changed, many thought gt prices wouldn’t drop but they clearly are.

Ive always allowed a £800 to 1k lose on my 911.2, so like you say it is what it is. But many who have bought a GT car have done so due to be told it won’t loose a penny!

[RDMcG]

GT4RS said:

Sorry wasn’t aware the owner was trying to sor it, makes sense for the opc not to tie up there own cash considering it’s loosing like you say a grand a month at present.

How times have changed, many thought gt prices wouldn’t drop but they clearly are.

Ive always allowed a £800 to 1k lose on my 911.2, so like you say it is what it is. But many who have bought a GT car have done so due to be told it won’t loose a penny!

Fair point.

I think the value of these cars ( or any car bought for driving pleasure) is in the experience, and if its the right car there is no reason to part with it.

Depreciation and all of that stuff may well occur and in the waning days of the internal combustion engine there will be increasing quantities of cars coming onto the market which will be regarded as symbols of the past rather than way to the future. Thus they will depreciate. I assume that the cars I have will depreciate lots. However, so will I. I will get one more GT car but I imagine the world will look a lot different in five years' time. No, there will not be a wholesale replacement by EV's but we will see the EVs being the latest and greatest as all of the development dollars go there.

I want another GT car simply because I enjoy them, thrash the hell out of them and don't care much about the wear and tear. If I were thinking of this the way I think of conventional investments that I do otherwise I would never buy one at this stage. However, I will just have a bit of fun with the next one as I have done in the past.