Wheres all the GT3s for sale?

Wheres all the GT3s for sale?

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CloudStuff

3,702 posts

105 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Melvynr said:
Shows how sad some people are to only put 11.5k miles on an almost 4 year old car.

2 sold recently on the OPC with over 11.5k and 10.5k, did not effect the price as had the full spec against a couple of cars around the 5 and 7 k mark with out the full spec whatever that might be.

Edited by Melvynr on Tuesday 20th April 19:20
I fear that I have ruined mine already. Collected on 29 March with 5800 miles. It's now on 7300 miles.

I feel so guilty - at this rate it will be worth pennies by the autumn.

Melvynr

1,404 posts

52 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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CloudStuff said:
I fear that I have ruined mine already. Collected on 29 March with 5800 miles. It's now on 7300 miles.

I feel so guilty - at this rate it will be worth pennies by the autumn.
Ha, I very much doubt that , you've got to filter the sh!t out on here to the ones who use there cars.Enjoy your miles = smiles.

john-j4ty0

69 posts

43 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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av185 said:
cayman-black said:
11.5 k prob highest mileage UK gen 2 even for 2017 first run car.

Miami with red interior and stitching also a poor combo and slow seller my OPC had a flipped cs car same as this spec in early in 2018 and it hung around for ages due to the combo whilst others sold straightaway.
i guess thats what makes us all different i like the colour combo although the interior of this one did make me twitch a bit and has hung around a while
https://www.suttoncarsalesltd.co.uk/search_page.ph...

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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A very low mileage, full main service history, manual club sport has just been advertised at Ashgood at a retail price £136k for the ones looking to buy.

Won’t hang around for long as they know how to sell cars rather than being a storage unit!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...


Cheib

23,286 posts

176 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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GT4RS said:
A very low mileage, full main service history, manual club sport has just been advertised at Ashgood at a retail price £136k for the ones looking to buy.

Won’t hang around for long as they know how to sell cars rather than being a storage unit!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...
Looks like a low spec car (no PCCB’s) so over list. I looked last night, there are two 991.2 GT3’s in OPC network...out of 600 plus cars delivered....JZM don’t have a single vanilla GT3 of any generation n stock. World’s gone GT3 mad !

CloudStuff

3,702 posts

105 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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GT4RS said:
A very low mileage, full main service history, manual club sport has just been advertised at Ashgood at a retail price £136k for the ones looking to buy.

Won’t hang around for long as they know how to sell cars rather than being a storage unit!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...
And it's done 55 miles in 18 months. FFS!

Deansfield

224 posts

105 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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GT4RS said:
A very low mileage, full main service history, manual club sport has just been advertised at Ashgood at a retail price £136k for the ones looking to buy.

Won’t hang around for long as they know how to sell cars rather than being a storage unit!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...
Agreed they do seem to move cars quickly
BUT I’m thinking at £136 you’ll see this one there for quite a while !

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Cheib said:
GT4RS said:
A very low mileage, full main service history, manual club sport has just been advertised at Ashgood at a retail price £136k for the ones looking to buy.

Won’t hang around for long as they know how to sell cars rather than being a storage unit!

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Por...
Looks like a low spec car (no PCCB’s) so over list. I looked last night, there are two 991.2 GT3’s in OPC network...out of 600 plus cars delivered....JZM don’t have a single vanilla GT3 of any generation n stock. World’s gone GT3 mad !
Yep low spec early run 2017 car with steels and poss no extended leather so £15k over list price. Number of owners not specified btw.

Good value bearing in mind as you say only 2 OPC cars left as 2 pccb OPC cars sold in the past few days at mid to upper £140ks.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Deansfield said:
Agreed they do seem to move cars quickly
BUT I’m thinking at £136 you’ll see this one there for quite a while !
Doubtful can't think why it is good value even with low spec.

They are selling straightaway approaching £150k now good spec with ceramics. A few cars have sold even before advertised.

hunter 66

3,910 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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I would still spec Steels every time especially now with the new ones , but then like most EU buyers I tend to use my cars a lot . Especially the cars get older . As a hard user of cars buying for the second hard market makes no sense because the biggest no no in the UK used market is Mileage !!! There are many cars around at running in numbers after a few years

Edited by hunter 66 on Friday 23 April 08:28

TDT

4,943 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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hunter 66 said:
I would still spec Steels every time especially now with the new ones , but then like most EU buyers I tend to use my cars a lot . Especially the cars get older . As a hard user of cars buying for the second hard market makes no sense because the biggest no no in the UK used market is Mileage !!! There are many cars around at running in numbers after a few years

Edited by hunter 66 on Friday 23 April 08:28
Agree.

PCCB aren’t even real carbon discs so need some care and regular replacement of the pads @50% to protect the rotor veneer.
Better off with Steels or full carbon discs (like surface transforms) if you’re actually using the car as a driving tool regularly on track.
Finding most track day people are taking the PCCB rotors off at the earliest opportunity.

I personally would NOT pay a premium for a PCCB car as they’d be coming straight off anyway. But at least you might get your money back, because the next person might believe.

Edited by TDT on Friday 23 April 08:40

isaldiri

18,620 posts

169 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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TDT said:
PCCB aren’t even real carbon discs so need some care and regular replacement of the pads @50% to protect the rotor veneer.
Better off with Steels or full carbon discs (like surface transforms) if you’re actually using the car as a driving tool regularly on track.
Um, pedant alert. Surface transforms are not 'full carbon discs' but carbon ceramic and simply that the disc material is more homogeneous than the SGL produced PCCBs.

True 'full carbon' discs are carbon carbon ones as used in lmp/single seater racing which afaik no one has managed to get suitable for use on the road.

TDT

4,943 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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isaldiri said:
TDT said:
PCCB aren’t even real carbon discs so need some care and regular replacement of the pads @50% to protect the rotor veneer.
Better off with Steels or full carbon discs (like surface transforms) if you’re actually using the car as a driving tool regularly on track.
Um, pedant alert. Surface transforms are not 'full carbon discs' but carbon ceramic and simply that the disc material is more homogeneous than the SGL produced PCCBs.

True 'full carbon' discs are carbon carbon ones as used in lmp/single seater racing which afaik no one has managed to get suitable for use on the road.
Hehe, Hawkeye lives!... ok, stand corrected.... on the full carbon.

Are you back in the saddle this season?]

Edited by TDT on Friday 23 April 09:13

isaldiri

18,620 posts

169 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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TDT said:
Are you back in the saddle this season?]
Definitely but I wasn't out last season anyway! did 2 days despite all the damned mess and think my feet still work so definitely planning to catch up this year. At SS with another pher on the 31st may I think.....

ChrisW.

6,327 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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isaldiri said:
Um, pedant alert. Surface transforms are not 'full carbon discs' but carbon ceramic and simply that the disc material is more homogeneous than the SGL produced PCCBs.

True 'full carbon' discs are carbon carbon ones as used in lmp/single seater racing which afaik no one has managed to get suitable for use on the road.
I can tell you that ST's run much cooler than PCCB's ... so whether full carbon or not they certainly transfer the heat away from the pads and cool much better than PCCB's. They are also skimmable if chipped, etc. Pedant indeed smile !

Cheib

23,286 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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A set os ST brakes is £9k so fitted north of £10k I assume ? You’re not far off the cost of a replacement set of PCCB discs at that level ? I guess it’s all about how they actually perform...if they are as you guys say that much better on track in terms of performance/robustness then I guess it is worth it if you do track your car a lot.

TDT

4,943 posts

120 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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9k for the full set of ST, Front & Rear.
Isn’t it 10k per axle for PCCB?

993rsr

3,434 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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ChrisW. said:
isaldiri said:
Um, pedant alert. Surface transforms are not 'full carbon discs' but carbon ceramic and simply that the disc material is more homogeneous than the SGL produced PCCBs.

True 'full carbon' discs are carbon carbon ones as used in lmp/single seater racing which afaik no one has managed to get suitable for use on the road.
I can tell you that ST's run much cooler than PCCB's ... so whether full carbon or not they certainly transfer the heat away from the pads and cool much better than PCCB's. They are also skimmable if chipped, etc. Pedant indeed smile !
The system ST rotors are homogenous they are constructed entirely of carbon ceramic material whereas all of the Brembo SGL carbon rotors have a laminated friction surface of the carbon ceramic material.

This is why the SGL rotors can be re-faced, also the carbon ceramic material is different to the ‘chopped’ method SGL use in that it’s layered and woven which makes it more able to dissipate heat and resist wear.

I had a very early set of ST rotors maybe 10 years ago, very interesting technology from a UK company.



Cheib

23,286 posts

176 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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TDT said:
9k for the full set of ST, Front & Rear.
Isn’t it 10k per axle for PCCB?
I did’t know to be honest...I thought it was £14k for a set. Not sure where I got that from. Having done some Googling it appears you’re right!

isaldiri

18,620 posts

169 months

Saturday 24th April 2021
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TDT said:
9k for the full set of ST, Front & Rear.
Isn’t it 10k per axle for PCCB?
4k + vat per rotor last time I checked.....