GT3 prices going up
Discussion
APOLO1 said:
My Yellow RS went back at list, less the road tax new tyres PPF replaced., at 4k miles, Red 991.2 GT3 under at 10k Miles, Orange 991RS at 14k Miles, list less 25k refresh bill.
Answer my question on you being Redfive and who can forget Citylad.A ramper, flipper and trader masquerading as a genuine punter.
Taffy66 said:
There are two new 992GT3 owners on here worth listening to and they are Monch and Macca. They don't portray the new GT3 as the long awaited Messiah but give a true warts and all honest review of their cars. They are Pistonheads' version of CH and HC and some fanboys are more like Shmee and MrJWW.
Totally agree Taffy more ramper ramblings, and I hear Monch and Macca are parallel Parker’s par excellence.993rsr said:
A ramper, flipper and trader masquerading as a genuine punter.
You are just trolling now, i have been buying Porsche car s and many others for over 42 years everything gets used and given back to supplying OPC when i have finished. How can this be flipping.... Edited by APOLO1 on Thursday 30th September 19:28
APOLO1 said:
shoaib said:
I can believe that , there’s now 11 cars on there and the lowest is 240k at opc which I can see taking offers circa 200k. I bet these will be sub 200k before Christmas, winters coming and they always take a hit in winter, this one will be even bigger due to furlough ending too.
I dont believe this 160-180k selling range. I know to 3 cars that have sold this month, all for genuine reasons at 225, 230, and one back at list for confirmed RS Slot. If you just think about it a low Miles big spec 991.2 GT3 PDK CS is what low 150ks? that makes the 992GT3 which is what 4 years newer and complete different car car only 10-20k more. Lol.......225 was too far for me, but there was interest at that level from two other people, ready to move. It is of course possible that these two potential buyers were imaginary, used to push me to commit. Unlikely though as having said 'no', there was no follow-up, 'can we meet in the middle?' call.
Taffy66 said:
The £160k to £180K figure was given to me by an OPC Sales executive and not something i made up Apolo. Maybe he meant trade prices but I didn't care enough to ask as I have as much interest in owning one as I have in sawing my right arm off !. It hasn't been universally well received with a few more reliable journos like CH, HC etc criticizing its rough road manners.
Whatever, I wouldn't spend anywhere near for one as I paid for my 812SF even if i could get on with its challenging looks. Its worth no more than the £160-180K IMO but the world's gone mad so anything's possible i guess.!
This was one of the key points for me. Low 200's is very close to 812 money. 812 is my dream.Whatever, I wouldn't spend anywhere near for one as I paid for my 812SF even if i could get on with its challenging looks. Its worth no more than the £160-180K IMO but the world's gone mad so anything's possible i guess.!
993rsr said:
APOLO1 said:
My Yellow RS went back at list, less the road tax new tyres PPF replaced., at 4k miles, Red 991.2 GT3 under at 10k Miles, Orange 991RS at 14k Miles, list less 25k refresh bill.
Answer my question on you being Redfive and who can forget Citylad.A ramper, flipper and trader masquerading as a genuine punter.
Do you lot keep a list of your foes, their transgressions / flips and potential alternate accounts?
Taffy66 said:
FWIW I don't include you in my Shmee analogy as you track your cars a lot. Full respect to everyone on here with a 992GT3 who take them on track as that is where they shine brightest not poodling around on our potholed roads stuck behind an SUV full of screaming kids..
The way i see it, unless you are going to track these type of cars a lot then no point in buying one. Much better cars around suited for road use IMO.Edited by Taffy66 on Thursday 30th September 18:53
If you could only have 1 toy, circa 150-270k spend, that needed to do a mix of a bit of road miles, a bit of track, a bit of making you feel special, and your mates didn’t think you a tit for owning one, then the GT3 makes a lot of sense (991 gen2 or 992).
Been there done that with the 812 SF, wonderful drivetrain, but no track car and far too fast and big for the road, at least for my modest skillset.
GT3 really are a class apart and i can understand why those with zero patience are willing to pay large overs. Not me, I can’t afford to, but i can see why some with significant cash might feel differently.
Been there done that with the 812 SF, wonderful drivetrain, but no track car and far too fast and big for the road, at least for my modest skillset.
GT3 really are a class apart and i can understand why those with zero patience are willing to pay large overs. Not me, I can’t afford to, but i can see why some with significant cash might feel differently.
CloudStuff said:
993rsr said:
APOLO1 said:
My Yellow RS went back at list, less the road tax new tyres PPF replaced., at 4k miles, Red 991.2 GT3 under at 10k Miles, Orange 991RS at 14k Miles, list less 25k refresh bill.
Answer my question on you being Redfive and who can forget Citylad.A ramper, flipper and trader masquerading as a genuine punter.
Do you lot keep a list of your foes, their transgressions / flips and potential alternate accounts?
993rsr said:
APOLO1 said:
My Yellow RS went back at list, less the road tax new tyres PPF replaced., at 4k miles, Red 991.2 GT3 under at 10k Miles, Orange 991RS at 14k Miles, list less 25k refresh bill.
Answer my question on you being Redfive and who can forget Citylad.A ramper, flipper and trader masquerading as a genuine punter.
seawise said:
If you could only have 1 toy, circa 150-270k spend, that needed to do a mix of a bit of road miles, a bit of track, a bit of making you feel special, and your mates didn’t think you a tit for owning one, then the GT3 makes a lot of sense (991 gen2 or 992).
Been there done that with the 812 SF, wonderful drivetrain, but no track car and far too fast and big for the road, at least for my modest skillset.
GT3 really are a class apart and i can understand why those with zero patience are willing to pay large overs. Not me, I can’t afford to, but i can see why some with significant cash might feel differently.
Here's your 812 for sale here.Been there done that with the 812 SF, wonderful drivetrain, but no track car and far too fast and big for the road, at least for my modest skillset.
GT3 really are a class apart and i can understand why those with zero patience are willing to pay large overs. Not me, I can’t afford to, but i can see why some with significant cash might feel differently.
https://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/132...
Melvynr said:
Jesus, what was the 25k refresh
991.1 RS, Did just over 40 track events in 2 years, and 15k miles. Front rear axles and centre locks due to track use, front and rear glass, 2 new Front CCBDs due to stone chips, pads, new tyres, new seat trim, splitter, rubber trim all round, almost every panel had to have paint, were the main items i can recall. The script was to put it back to as new condition for the OPC, so despite the miles it would look in top condition. This was with a bit of discount also........
Edited by APOLO1 on Thursday 30th September 21:36
Twinfan said:
Thanks Slippy, and I didn't know you're Porsche-less at the moment. In which case what you're saying makes a lot of sense.
Leopards and their spots, eh?
Leopards and their spots indeed, but seemingly the PH Porsche forum is a bit like a light to a moth for some individuals.Leopards and their spots, eh?
APOLO1 said:
Hi SDIf that is indeed your car very sorry to read the above. But knowing Julian as i do, on my reading his comments were more in line with the above pics and not how the car was previously used.
Hi, just to clarify the situation for all those that have commented on my post regarding GT3 ownership earlier in this thread.That post was made merely to illustrate to Julian (who BTW I genuinely think is a good, though occasionally misguided egg) that passing judgement on the previous owner of a car solely on the basis of few photographs in an advert, is ill-advised at best.
The post needs to be read in its entirety in order that one can appreciate the point I was attempting to make : That being there are two sides to every story, and that for every owner that does abuse their car because they don't value or appreciate their belongings, there's also an owner out there who's inflicted damage on their car, not from wilful misuse/abuse, but because of their circumstances, and 99.9 % of the time, we won't be party to those circumstances, so passing judgement on both the owner and the car is unfair and unwise.
My apologies for any confusion caused to those who may have been misled by my earlier post, it wasn't my intention to do so, I was merely wanting to show Julian the error of his ways in a thought provoking manner.
As you were
Edited by Slippydiff on Friday 1st October 07:18
Taffy66 said:
The £160k to £180K figure was given to me by an OPC Sales executive and not something i made up Apolo. Maybe he meant trade prices but I didn't care enough to ask as I have as much interest in owning one as I have in sawing my right arm off !. It hasn't been universally well received with a few more reliable journos like CH, HC etc criticizing its rough road manners.
Whatever, I wouldn't spend anywhere near for one as I paid for my 812SF even if i could get on with its challenging looks. Its worth no more than the £160-180K IMO but the world's gone mad so anything's possible i guess.!
I always thought you were armless taff;) and smeee number one fan.Whatever, I wouldn't spend anywhere near for one as I paid for my 812SF even if i could get on with its challenging looks. Its worth no more than the £160-180K IMO but the world's gone mad so anything's possible i guess.!
APOLO1 said:
991.1 RS, Did just over 40 track events in 2 years, and 15k miles. Front rear axles and centre locks due to track use, front and rear glass, 2 new Front CCBDs due to stone chips, pads, new tyres, new seat trim, splutter, rubber trim all round, almost every panel had to have paint, were the main items i can recall. The script was to put it back to as new condition for the OPC. This was with a bit of discount also........
It's not long adding up when you are tracking as regular as that. The thing that gripes me with Porsche is that they won't do a retrofit CCB like BMW do , both systems are made by Brembo SLG, bought the system for my M3 and was 7k fitted for fronts and rears.Cheers.Edited by APOLO1 on Thursday 30th September 21:29
Taffy66 said:
Here's your 812 for sale here.
https://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/132...
The 7 year service plan is an added big bonus , do they still pick them up on a transporter if no dealership where one lives?https://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/used-cars/132...
There are always irrational (in most people’s eyes) buyers who will pay big premiums for early cars…with the 991.2 GT3 that was around the £185k mark from memory. So a good £45k over list. Could I see someone paying a bigger premium for the 992 GT3 given the very low volume of cars that have come through and how well bid cars are right now ? Yes.
I’d agree it is unusual for a GT3 too be at a price premium to the RS iteration of the previous car but there seem to have been a steady stream of 991.2 RS’s for sale. Probably from people getting GT3 allocations as that was the last car the favoured OPC clients would have had in their garage.
Where prices of the new car right now relative to the older car are just a reflection of short term supply/demand….in six to nine months when we’ve had more cars delivered and the market as a whole is seeing more cars delivered things will normalise.
What I think is definitely true is that not everyone loves the looks or how it drives on the road.
I’d agree it is unusual for a GT3 too be at a price premium to the RS iteration of the previous car but there seem to have been a steady stream of 991.2 RS’s for sale. Probably from people getting GT3 allocations as that was the last car the favoured OPC clients would have had in their garage.
Where prices of the new car right now relative to the older car are just a reflection of short term supply/demand….in six to nine months when we’ve had more cars delivered and the market as a whole is seeing more cars delivered things will normalise.
What I think is definitely true is that not everyone loves the looks or how it drives on the road.
Melvynr said:
The 7 year service plan is an added big bonus , do they still pick them up on a transporter if no dealership where one lives?
Mine's booked for a service in a couple of weeks and they offered to come and get it and return it to my home in a covered transporter FOC despite living 160miles away. Flugplatz said:
This may be a terribly naïve question, but...has anyone been fortunate enough to confirm a configuration/order and place £10k deposit (ie, a confirmed vehicle from a UK OPC's allocation from PCGB) for a 992 Touring? I'm being told that PCGB will not give dealers' any allocation info on Touring until into 2022.
All thoughts and guidance gratefully received, chars.
FP
I have been told by my OPC that literally a handful of UK Tourings were allocated to dealers for 2021. My OPC is still waiting for his 2022 Touring allocation.All thoughts and guidance gratefully received, chars.
FP
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