991.2 GT3 Major Servicing Costs

[ttdan]

whj said:

- said:

Two grand for a service is a racket.

This is how I see it:

Jan 2021 you buy a 3 year old GT3 that's seen little use from a franchised dealer, comes with a 2 year warranty.
Jan 2022 it needs a big service for £2200.
Jan 2023 you put a 3 year warranty on the car for £3200
Jan 2024 it needs a small service for £1200
Jan 2026 you sell or start the process over again.

So that's 5 years of motoring in arguably one of the best cars on the planet for just under £7k. Trips to Spa and Zandervort, early morning blasts in the summer, days out to Silverstone and Anglesey, and just the shear privilege of owning a GT3

Then when your 5 years older, you've scratched that itch, your investment may even have risen in value, or maybe you loose a few quid,

Come on, enjoy while we're still young enough to do so..........and we can still buy 99 Ron

I’m enjoying mine plenty thanks , have been for nearly ten years and I hope you do to.

My point is it really doesn’t need to cost that much for what they actually do and the parts consumed. Plus they seem to collaborate on setting the prices too..a racket.

So while I completely understand the sentiment of getting on with our lives I still don’t think it should cost 2k plus to service a car.

[Yellow491]

RSVP911 said:

Taffy66 said:

You guys need to upgrade to a Ferrari. My 812 had a service two weeks ago and it didn't cost a dime. While we were waiting both myself and my son were given a 45min test drive in a Portofino M each !. We were also fed all day on bacon/sausage baps in the morning and unlimited delicious Italian toasties the rest of the day.

In complete contrast my RS is now due its first service and I'm absolutely dreading what they'll charge for it. If we're lucky we'll get a cup of dodgy coffee each

Ferrari spoil you for life and Porsche rip you off for life. It balances out nicely in the end.

Taffy - you’ve got to be kidding - who do think is paying for those tasty treats and the service - there’s a reason an 812 costs what it does - Ferrari depreciation is eye watering - a new 812 will drop you £k100 in a matter of months and a couple of 1,000 miles - a used one will be far less of an issue but I bet you any Ferrari dealer will bid you at least £k35 less than they go onto sell it for - remember bacon baps aren’t for free

Taffy paid for it all ,i thought taffy was vegetarian, expensive them fiats Both ways

[Taffy66]

Yellow491 said:

Taffy - you’ve got to be kidding - who do think is paying for those tasty treats and the service - there’s a reason an 812 costs what it does - Ferrari depreciation is eye watering - a new 812 will drop you £k100 in a matter of months and a couple of 1,000 miles - a used one will be far less of an issue but I bet you any Ferrari dealer will bid you at least £k35 less than they go onto sell it for - remember bacon baps aren’t for free

Taffy paid for it all ,i thought taffy was vegetarian, expensive them fiats Both ways

The only type of depreciation I think about is what the previous owner lost. in my case I paid £100k less than new invoice for a 1.8k mile 812. I don't lose a wink of sleep worrying about what it'll lose me in the future as the future is yet to happen and might even not happen at all !
I will take my RS to my OPC for a service in the next couple of weeks and It'll cost what it'll cost. I certainly won't be moaning about the service cost as it cost £180k to buy and probably worth another £30K on top. The difference between paying either £1.5k or £2.5k every couple of years for a service is pretty insignificant on a £200k + car and shouldn't enter the equation IMO.
Supercars cost money to keep one way or another and if that leaves a nasty taste in one's mouth then you're better off buying a cheaper car or use public transport.
Me vegetarian ?

[Yellow491]

Taffy66 said:

The only type of depreciation I think about is what the previous owner lost. in my case I paid £100k less than new invoice for a 1.8k mile 812. I don't lose a wink of sleep worrying about what it'll lose me in the future as the future is yet to happen and might even not happen at all !
I will take my RS to my OPC for a service in the next couple of weeks and It'll cost what it'll cost. I certainly won't be moaning about the service cost as it cost £180k to buy and probably worth another £30K on top. The difference between paying either £1.5k or £2.5k every couple of years for a service is pretty insignificant on a £200k + car and shouldn't enter the equation IMO.
Supercars cost money to keep one way or another and if that leaves a nasty taste in one's mouth then you're better off buying a cheaper car or use public transport.
Me vegetarian ?

Let me know the quote on wp service,mine is due,but might leave in the garage until next spring for its service.One thing to note,i changed the oil before the silverstone track day last year,the oil was shockingly dirty for 2500 miles from new,dont get porsche 2year service from new on oil change.

[Taffy66]

Yellow491 said:

Let me know the quote on wp service,mine is due,but might leave in the garage until next spring for its service.One thing to note,i changed the oil before the silverstone track day last year,the oil was shockingly dirty for 2500 miles from new,dont get porsche 2year service from new on oil change.

I'm pretty sure that you need to carry out your RS service at two years old and not leave it until Spring otherwise it will look like a very late service in your book. I only put Esso Supreme 99+ in my RS to avoid any Bioethenol which helps keep the engine clean, however i agree that all highly tuned performance cars should have an annual oil change. My 812 gets it every 12mths according to Ferrari's 7 year free service schedule.

[Melvynr]

Can understand getting a service every 12 months if the car was getting used, ie10k miles.What I don't agree with is plugs changed in the GT3 after 4 years with under 20k miles on the clock, that's when it becomes a rip off.
As far as Ferrari servicing goes, a chap over here has an ESpeciale that goes back every year and yet it only has 3 miles on the clock, that's when it becomes bullst, however, it still doesn't cost the owner a penny.

[Yellow491]

Taffy66 said:

Yellow491 said:

Let me know the quote on wp service,mine is due,but might leave in the garage until next spring for its service.One thing to note,i changed the oil before the silverstone track day last year,the oil was shockingly dirty for 2500 miles from new,dont get porsche 2year service from new on oil change.

I'm pretty sure that you need to carry out your RS service at two years old and not leave it until Spring otherwise it will look like a very late service in your book. I only put Esso Supreme 99+ in my RS to avoid any Bioethenol which helps keep the engine clean, however i agree that all highly tuned performance cars should have an annual oil change. My 812 gets it every 12mths according to Ferrari's 7 year free service schedule.

Not fussed what it looks like in the book as its my car,better not to have new oil just sat in the car during winter months,also put best race oil in also,rather than water oil
Who is advertising gt3rswp wanted in cardiff taff,is it opc,did think of selling mine as not using much.

[Taffy66]

Yellow491 said:

Not fussed what it looks like in the book as its my car,better not to have new oil just sat in the car during winter months,also put best race oil in also,rather than water oil
Who is advertising gt3rswp wanted in cardiff taff,is it opc,did think of selling mine as not using much.

Don't think its the OPC. I'm phoning them tomorrow to book mine in for a service and I'll ask them if they know. I've seen the advert and he wants one with only 1K miles. I have an idea who it could be as he's just sold a 2018 gen 1 RS and might be looking to upgrade to the WP. The add says £200k but I think yours is worth more than that being a rare PTS and all that...
Unless we get another lockdown like last Winter I'm going to keep mine taxed to use it over Winter, in fact myself and my son are just about to go out in for a quick blast. Kept mine on SORN last winter( Extended Welsh lockdown) and it didn't do the car any good as it needed a few good hard drives to get back to fine fettle.

[whj]

ttdan said:

I’m enjoying mine plenty thanks , have been for nearly ten years and I hope you do to.

My point is it really doesn’t need to cost that much for what they actually do and the parts consumed. Plus they seem to collaborate on setting the prices too..a racket.

So while I completely understand the sentiment of getting on with our lives I still don’t think it should cost 2k plus to service a car.

Servicing a car shouldn't cost £2k, agreed, but when taken in consideration with the cost of ownership it still represents good value.
They are pretty cheap to start with (if you ignore overs, a word I hate) then they depreciate very slowly, and compared to other cars with a similar performance the servicing costs are comparable, or less.

I take my hat off to you for running a GT car for 10 years, but my overall experience has been worthwhile and rewarding.

I am pleased to shelter under the warranty scheme, along with the menu of servicing costs :-)

[BanzaiMan]

SJR-GTR said:

Try this.
So assuming warranty is maintained when going to an Indy like 9E or RPM, does anyone think the Indy stamp would put off a future buyer (albeit not anytime soon)?
If I skip the AC I assume that’s not covered by the extended warranty?

My first quote is £2,585.60 without air con service.

[Illya Kuryakin]

Taffy66 said:

I'm pretty sure that you need to carry out your RS service at two years old and not leave it until Spring otherwise it will look like a very late service in your book. I only put Esso Supreme 99+ in my RS to avoid any Bioethenol which helps keep the engine clean, however i agree that all highly tuned performance cars should have an annual oil change. My 812 gets it every 12mths according to Ferrari's 7 year free service schedule.

Didn't realise Esso Supreme 99+ offered this extra benefit.

[BanzaiMan]

BanzaiMan said:

SJR-GTR said:

Try this.
So assuming warranty is maintained when going to an Indy like 9E or RPM, does anyone think the Indy stamp would put off a future buyer (albeit not anytime soon)?
If I skip the AC I assume that’s not covered by the extended warranty?

My first quote is £2,585.60 without air con service.

Second is £3,044.71 with aircon service.

[av185]

My OPC agreed £2k all in incl decent loaner but reduced it to £1800 because it took longer than a day as agreed due to the aux belt not being delivered in time.

[BanzaiMan]

av185 said:

My OPC agreed £2k all in incl decent loaner but reduced it to £1800 because it took longer than a day as agreed due to the aux belt not being delivered in time.

Thanks av185 - that's a bit more reasonable. JZM are around the £1200 mark including brake fluid and air-con. I don't mind paying some OPC tax but £2.5-£3k is a bit much,

[Twinfan]

BanzaiMan said:

My first quote is £2,585.60 without air con service.

Second is £3,044.71 with aircon service.

Nearly £500 for an aircon service? At the same place or a different OPC?

I was quoted an additional £120 for the aircon service on my 718 GT4 at an OPC recently.

[BanzaiMan]

Twinfan said:

BanzaiMan said:

My first quote is £2,585.60 without air con service.

Second is £3,044.71 with aircon service.

Nearly £500 for an aircon service? At the same place or a different OPC?

I was quoted an additional £120 for the aircon service on my 718 GT4 at an OPC recently.

Different OPC.

[Twinfan]

Gotcha.

£3k is ridiculous. The price of maintaining an extended warranty I guess - peace of mind isn't as cheap as you might think it is...

[Taffy66]

Illya Kuryakin said:

Didn't realise Esso Supreme 99+ offered this extra benefit.

Only if the Esso Supreme 99+ comes from their own refinery Exxon Mobil at Fawley Dorset. North Wales through Cheshire across Northern England, Scotland and Devon/Cornwall come from third party refineries and contain up to 5% Ethanol.

[BanzaiMan]

BanzaiMan said:

BanzaiMan said:

SJR-GTR said:

Try this.
So assuming warranty is maintained when going to an Indy like 9E or RPM, does anyone think the Indy stamp would put off a future buyer (albeit not anytime soon)?
If I skip the AC I assume that’s not covered by the extended warranty?

My first quote is £2,585.60 without air con service.

Second is £3,044.71 with aircon service.

Quote One now down to £2,316.

[swilding]

Just had my 2018 991.2 GT3 major service completed today. Ouch.