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Same when 991R was introduced.. before Gen2
I have to say, of all the new releases I’m most looking forward to understanding the technical details on the ST.. I enjoy my Touring more than I did my RS for road driving I think this will be awesome, unless the make the suspension setup rock hard that is !
I have to say, of all the new releases I’m most looking forward to understanding the technical details on the ST.. I enjoy my Touring more than I did my RS for road driving I think this will be awesome, unless the make the suspension setup rock hard that is !
TheDeadPrussian said:
I registered my interest in the ST a while ago - and I have to say I'm intrigued to know the detail; a GT3 RS 'Touring' type specification definitely appeals. I think the finer details, once revealed, could make it really quite special.
Me to,showed interest when first mentioned in germany,hope its radical and light weight enough to be worthy of the st name unlike the lardy 911r.Yellow491 said:
Me to,showed interest when first mentioned in germany,hope its radical and light weight enough to be worthy of the st name unlike the lardy 911r.
I do fear the weight will be minimum 1400kg.. i just cant see how they can get the ST much below the 992 3RS, very intrigued, they really are keeping theirs cards close to theirs chest with this model, the 911R was great, could this be even better?Yellow491 said:
Me to,showed interest when first mentioned in germany, hope its radical and light weight enough to be worthy of the st name unlike the lardy 911r.
Have a 
Paul. In fact have two The marketing dept at Stuttgart are fast running out of model designations (which in their day were used on truly great competition cars) to use on the modern overweight, bloated watercooled GT cars.
What's next the 992.2 SC RS ?
Slippydiff said:
Have a Paul. In fact have two
The marketing dept at Stuttgart are fast running out of model designations (which in their day were used on truly great competition cars) to use on the modern overweight, bloated watercooled GT cars.
What's next the 992.2 SC RS ?
I heard through the grapevine that the 992 to get is the limited 992.1 RS Touring Super dooper Dakar special. Very limited numbers. Paul. In fact have two The marketing dept at Stuttgart are fast running out of model designations (which in their day were used on truly great competition cars) to use on the modern overweight, bloated watercooled GT cars.
What's next the 992.2 SC RS ?
Slippydiff said:
Yellow491 said:
Me to,showed interest when first mentioned in germany, hope its radical and light weight enough to be worthy of the st name unlike the lardy 911r.
Have a Paul. In fact have two The marketing dept at Stuttgart are fast running out of model designations (which in their day were used on truly great competition cars) to use on the modern overweight, bloated watercooled GT cars.
What's next the 992.2 SC RS ?
TDT said:
Slippydiff said:
Yellow491 said:
Me to,showed interest when first mentioned in germany, hope its radical and light weight enough to be worthy of the st name unlike the lardy 911r.
Have a Paul. In fact have two The marketing dept at Stuttgart are fast running out of model designations (which in their day were used on truly great competition cars) to use on the modern overweight, bloated watercooled GT cars.
What's next the 992.2 SC RS ?
The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
Yellow491 said:
I know i know slippy,i can dream about the st,Having owned and played with the real deal,porsche really could break the mold.300mm pcb,mag Manuel box,mag engine case,pankel ti driveshafts,18in mag wheels,sooper dooper lwt seats,all plastic panels ,thin glass and carpet,no sound proofing etc etc.
The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
Well it's a lovely thought/concept Paul, but we both know it ain't ever going to happen The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
How much did your ST weigh in circuit racing spec ?
Not sure if you're an Instagrammer (I suspect you're not, and I don't blame you)
I'm on there, but I lurk.
I suspect you know Mr Linton, or know of him ?
Here's some of the bits he's produced for his 964 :
and his GT2 RS :
The calipers are made from forged aluminum lithium, the lightweight material currently used by F1 for their brake calipers. Pistons are titanium (obviously)
Blokes a certified Grade A nutter.
Beryllium is also a favourite of his, and I’m sure he’s got some Vibranium somewhere too! Lol.
I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
TDT said:
Tuthill have nicked that. Limited run of 15 cars I think.
I'm well aware of that, but rest assured, that wouldn't stop Stuttgart using it if there's a Euro or two to be made from its use ...Some SC RS footage for Paul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYehzBaFFzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muyhTi3c4z4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzOPOMbzPOw
Real action starts at 5mins 40 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbEiotRl-ro
Apologies for the lack of commentary in these videos on contrast stitching, resale values, GFV's, performing oral on OPC DP's (or indeed OPC DP's performing DP on potential GT car customers) etc.
TDT said:
Beryllium is also a favourite of his, and I’m sure he’s got some Vibranium somewhere too! Lol.
I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
Beryllium is nasty stuff to machine ... hence was banned by the FIA IIRC.I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
No doubt it is one (several) huge vanity projects, no harm in that whatsoever, and if I was in his position, ie in world class, high end motorsport component manufacturing, I'd be doing exactly the same
Slippydiff said:
TDT said:
Beryllium is also a favourite of his, and I’m sure he’s got some Vibranium somewhere too! Lol.
I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
Beryllium is nasty stuff to machine ... hence was banned by the FIA IIRC.I was initially very impressed by the materials engineering and effort, but for me it seemed like most of it is just a vanity project rather than for actual use and performance.
But fair play… looks fun.
No doubt it is one (several) huge vanity projects, no harm in that whatsoever, and if I was in his position, ie in world class, high end motorsport component manufacturing, I'd be doing exactly the same
something to build up over the weekend,them scrs are a bit on the slow side;)
Yellow491 said:
He is not the only one obsessed with weight etc,and exotic materials,just had these drive shafts made,and gun barrelled from m300something to build up over the weekend,them scrs are a bit on the slow side;)
Excellent driveshafts Paul something to build up over the weekend,them scrs are a bit on the slow side;)Those SC RS’s looked quick from where I was standing (stageside Circuit of Ireland 1986 and the RAC Rally 1984) and as for the sound ...
Sat/stood in the dark of Hamsterley you could hear those flat six MFi motors and all but straight through pipes ages before the cars arrived, and they were noisier than zany of the other then WRC cars
Slippydiff said:
Yellow491 said:
I know i know slippy,i can dream about the st,Having owned and played with the real deal,porsche really could break the mold.300mm pcb,mag Manuel box,mag engine case,pankel ti driveshafts,18in mag wheels,sooper dooper lwt seats,all plastic panels ,thin glass and carpet,no sound proofing etc etc.
The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
Well it's a lovely thought/concept Paul, but we both know it ain't ever going to happen The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
How much did your ST weigh in circuit racing spec ?
Not sure if you're an Instagrammer (I suspect you're not, and I don't blame you)
I'm on there, but I lurk.
I suspect you know Mr Linton, or know of him ?
Here's some of the bits he's produced for his 964 :
and his GT2 RS :
The calipers are made from forged aluminum lithium, the lightweight material currently used by F1 for their brake calipers. Pistons are titanium (obviously)
Blokes a certified Grade A nutter.
Slippydiff said:
Well it's a lovely thought/concept Paul, but we both know it ain't ever going to happen
How much did your ST weigh in circuit racing spec ?
Not sure if you're an Instagrammer (I suspect you're not, and I don't blame you)
I'm on there, but I lurk.
I suspect you know Mr Linton, or know of him ?
Here's some of the bits he's produced for his 964 :
and his GT2 RS :
The calipers are made from forged aluminum lithium, the lightweight material currently used by F1 for their brake calipers. Pistons are titanium (obviously)
Blokes a certified Grade A nutter.
That is an amazing showcase for precision engineering! Thanks for sharing @SlippydiffHow much did your ST weigh in circuit racing spec ?
Not sure if you're an Instagrammer (I suspect you're not, and I don't blame you)
I'm on there, but I lurk.
I suspect you know Mr Linton, or know of him ?
Here's some of the bits he's produced for his 964 :
and his GT2 RS :
The calipers are made from forged aluminum lithium, the lightweight material currently used by F1 for their brake calipers. Pistons are titanium (obviously)
Blokes a certified Grade A nutter.
Yellow491 said:
Slippydiff said:
Yellow491 said:
I know i know slippy,i can dream about the st,Having owned and played with the real deal,porsche really could break the mold.300mm pcb,mag Manuel box,mag engine case,pankel ti driveshafts,18in mag wheels,sooper dooper lwt seats,all plastic panels ,thin glass and carpet,no sound proofing etc etc.
The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
Well it's a lovely thought/concept Paul, but we both know it ain't ever going to happen The R was/is a joke and not worthy of the R
How much did your ST weigh in circuit racing spec ?
Not sure if you're an Instagrammer (I suspect you're not, and I don't blame you)
I'm on there, but I lurk.
I suspect you know Mr Linton, or know of him ?
Here's some of the bits he's produced for his 964 :
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[/url]and his GT2 RS :
The calipers are made from forged aluminum lithium, the lightweight material currently used by F1 for their brake calipers. Pistons are titanium (obviously)
Blokes a certified Grade A nutter.
I suspect the new ST weight loss number will be the usual for a contemporary 911, ie a token amount to appeal to those looking to brag at the bar, rather than a significant figure that would actually change/improve the car’s dynamics. That means at least 100kg, and preferably 150.
Best summation : Unlikely to happen.
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