Boxster Spyder

[daro911]

woodysnr said:

The hood look is nicer in the 987 as the clips are positioned further back gives a more flowing line .

It may look nicer but the 981 works in the real world so much better and is good for 180 mph so can be up on track days

[jimmy p]

I was surprised this year at Chatsworth event when my 987 spyder was parked next to 981 spyder and mine got all the attention. Took me nearly an hour and a half to get away from it to have a look around!!!

[1606ian]

chrisABP said:

Before I bought my GT4 some time ago I was sorely tempted by a 981 Spyder and almost bought a white one from Glasgow OPC back in December 2016 but couldn’t quite agree the deal which I wanted buying in a December!
So a GT4 came and went and now own a sublime Cayman R with all the critical spec and just 26,000 miles which is a far better ‘road car’ than the GT4. But I only use it when the sun is shining or on dry evenings so yet again I’m drawn to a Spyder.....
Have a LOI in with local OPC for a 718 Spyder but fear it’s going to be a turbocharged lump which isn’t for me as I love a naturally aspirated engine. So on chatting with OPC today on the phone still no confirmation on new car launch date or engine leaving me back thinking 981 Spyder...
And my OPC just happens to mention they have a lovely GT Silver Spyder with Classic interior, low miles and seemingly good spec in stock...
So Spyder experts what is your opinion on the Chester OPC car? Is it missing any critical spec and what should I be looking to pay for it?? I would have to change the wheel colour as feel that satin black would work better on the GT silver.
Your thoughts are appreciated

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by chrisABP on Saturday 1st December 00:12

Looks a great spec, colour combo, mileage and price but if you buy it, please leave the wheels as they are. Black wheels would kill the look (sorry but I have an aversion to black wheels on any car and like them even less the more they proliferate).

[Fokker]

jimmy p said:

I was surprised this year at Chatsworth event when my 987 spyder was parked next to 981 spyder and mine got all the attention. Took me nearly an hour and a half to get away from it to have a look around!!!

James hope you’re keeping well? Nice car you have there. I’m in the Spyder camp too now. Our gorgeous old 996 C4S is out there somewhere! Lol

[Fokker]

chrisABP said:

Before I bought my GT4 some time ago I was sorely tempted by a 981 Spyder and almost bought a white one from Glasgow OPC back in December 2016 but couldn’t quite agree the deal which I wanted buying in a December!
So a GT4 came and went and now own a sublime Cayman R with all the critical spec and just 26,000 miles which is a far better ‘road car’ than the GT4. But I only use it when the sun is shining or on dry evenings so yet again I’m drawn to a Spyder.....
Have a LOI in with local OPC for a 718 Spyder but fear it’s going to be a turbocharged lump which isn’t for me as I love a naturally aspirated engine. So on chatting with OPC today on the phone still no confirmation on new car launch date or engine leaving me back thinking 981 Spyder...
And my OPC just happens to mention they have a lovely GT Silver Spyder with Classic interior, low miles and seemingly good spec in stock...
So Spyder experts what is your opinion on the Chester OPC car? Is it missing any critical spec and what should I be looking to pay for it?? I would have to change the wheel colour as feel that satin black would work better on the GT silver.
Your thoughts are appreciated

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Edited by chrisABP on Saturday 1st December 00:12

Just for the record. Walliser told me face to face that it’s an N/A 4 litre. Not that rev hungry but it’s not a blower.

[testdrive_tv]

This doesn't bother me as I don't particularly like them anyway but it doesn't have heated seats. Is that because it has buckets? Silver on silver is ok but something brighter would be better on the Spyder I think.

[Fokker]

testdrive_tv said:

This doesn't bother me as I don't particularly like them anyway but it doesn't have heated seats. Is that because it has buckets? Silver on silver is ok but something brighter would be better on the Spyder I think.

I agree can look a bit monotone. You can always pain the wheels platinum. I have GT silver with plat wheels and it looks really classy.

Fixed buckets don’t come with a heated option unlike the folding buckets which do. I’m in the fold and heated camp on an open top car but I had fixed in my gt4 and they’re great seats although slightly more upright than the comfy folding variety.

[jimmy p]

Fokker said:

James hope you’re keeping well? Nice car you have there. I’m in the Spyder camp too now. Our gorgeous old 996 C4S is out there somewhere! Lol

I read the magazine article again the other day on the old girl. Lovely car, one of those if you had the space and money could of kept forever.
Noticed you had bought a spyder, Roll on spring for some decent top off weather!

[chrisABP]

Many thanks for all the feedback guys - very much appreciated.
It’s missing the reverse camera which on a car with no sensors and limited visibility may be an issue but that’s modern cars for you and I managed to park before sensors came along!
Other than that I love the interior, the spec and the colour but the wheels would have to be changed as they are way too light - maybe platinum, anthracite or satin black.
Other than the price (which factoring in its December and the number of Spyders for sale is in my opinion a little high) my biggest stumbling block is the not knowing of the engine to be used in the 718 Spyder..... I wouldn’t be buying (even if offered) if it’s a turbo lump so it would have to be a naturally aspirated and then with GPF fitted I worry for the power hit and sound loss......
Inevitably if the new car is a turbo the 981 residuals will stay strong (or arguably increase) but if it’s a NA I think the 981 could fall back to list and become yesterday’s hero (obviously dependent on how good the new car is...).
My OPC genuinely have no idea what the engine will be and that’s making this decision such a tricky one.
My Cayman R is epic and looking at what’s out there, there is no other car for sale with the mileage (26k), history, spec (all the tasty bits), condition etc so that won’t be an issue to move on. I found myself only using it when the sun was shining hence my desire for a Spyder!
Some more head scratching....

[Cheib]

If the 718 Spyder is N/A I think it'll be at a different price point to the 981....the extra engineering required to fit an N/A engineand the cost of the engine itself (if it's the 4.0 from the GT3) will make it an expensive car IMHO. So I kind of think the 981 is a win/win regardless of what the 718 engine is.

[av185]

Cheib said:

If the 718 Spyder is N/A I think it'll be at a different price point to the 981....the extra engineering required to fit an N/A engineand the cost of the engine itself (if it's the 4.0 from the GT3) will make it an expensive car IMHO. So I kind of think the 981 is a win/win regardless of what the 718 engine is.

N.a. or turbo the 718 Spyder could be more expensive than the GT4 especially following the Boxster Cayman price reversal.

GT4 will likely be £75k so Spyder maybe a touch more. At this price it will be c £15k+ more than the 981.

An expensive Boxster.

[JayK12]

I'd wait Chris until Geneva and see what happens Chris. If the 982 Spyder is N/A surely if you get one it will be the same price point of a 3 year old 981 Spyder? The car your looking at has been at Chester for a long time, and it doesn't look like you'll get a better deal in the winter. Personally I'd wait, you have nothing too loose.

[Fokker]

The 718 Spyder 100% not be a turbo. Part of the reason we are seeing so many for sale might well be current model customers selling this winter in prep for the new car.

I also know its not going to be the new GT3 motor. Walliser and AP have told me is a 4 litre but new 'new development' and with much work gone into it.
My masseuse also said this and that it revs strongly to 6k revs suggesting that its going to be no GT3 rev monster. Its more of a GT4 spyder this tie around dont forget so the main differences will be in brakes, chassis and suspension changes, perhaps PASM this time or could be fixed who knows but it'll be a little more track focused not that the old one is bad on track!

My best best is that it'll be very much the same as before, just a bit bolder and a touch quicker but not sound as good due to new noise regulations.

If its any different to that i have described, I'll be surprised... and misinformed

[JayK12]

Fokker said:

The 718 Spyder 100% not be a turbo. Part of the reason we are seeing so many for sale might well be current model customers selling this winter in prep for the new car.

I also know its not going to be the new GT3 motor. Walliser and AP have told me is a 4 litre but new 'new development' and with much work gone into it.
My masseuse also said this and that it revs strongly to 6k revs suggesting that its going to be no GT3 rev monster. Its more of a GT4 spyder this tie around dont forget so the main differences will be in brakes, chassis and suspension changes, perhaps PASM this time or could be fixed who knows but it'll be a little more track focused not that the old one is bad on track!

My best best is that it'll be very much the same as before, just a bit bolder and a touch quicker but not sound as good due to new noise regulations.

If its any different to that i have described, I'll be surprised... and misinformed

Lol someone from Porsche did say to me it maybe a 982, so that they can use an NA motor and likely to be 3.8 with power pack.

[Fokker]

JayK12 said:

Lol someone from Porsche did say to me it maybe a 982, so that they can use an NA motor and likely to be 3.8 with power pack.

I suppose 3.8 is possible but I'll be surprised. It's just not progression in the modern world of Porsche marketing despite what has been the norm in the past... We shall see

[daro911]

Fokker said:

The 718 Spyder 100% not be a turbo.


My best best is that it'll be very much the same as before, just a bit bolder and a touch quicker but not sound as good due to new noise regulations.

What are these new noise regulations As I really like my current Spyders soundtrack exactly as it is

[av185]

Engine particulate filters and non switchable exhaust will tend to dumb down the noise.

Although the 981 Spyder sounds better I.e. more authentic if quieter but less farty with Sport plus off.

[daro911]

av185 said:

Engine particulate filters and non switchable exhaust will tend to dumb down the noise.

Although the 981 Spyder sounds better I.e. more authentic if quieter but less farty with Sport plus off.

Have switchable sports exhausts been banned or just dropped by Porsche

[Taffy66]

daro911 said:

Have switchable sports exhausts been banned or just dropped by Porsche

Its still an expensive extra cost option on the new 992, so neither in response to your question IMO.

[Fokker]

Taffy66 said:

daro911 said:

Have switchable sports exhausts been banned or just dropped by Porsche

Its still an expensive extra cost option on the new 992, so neither in response to your question IMO.

Yep but I think with the turbos you’re going to get a very dumbed down sound so a sport button is there but adds very little in reality. I don’t think the new GT4 / Spyder are going to be as raucous as before from what I’ve been told. Walliser said that to me and due to apparent new note stringent EU noise regs.