Boxster Spyder

[Akajak]

are they true GT products; you could still argue that the engine isn't

[daro911]

GT4P said:

Now all we need to know is how much? £80k plus?

My current 981 Spyder was £14k over list to my spec so a 718 with same ticked boxes would be circa £88k assuming the Spyder still comes standard with buckets

Plus no longer limited production run so Porsche can literally flood the market place!

"One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn’t get one. Now we’re really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We’re not limited in a way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range."’

Edited by daro911 on Tuesday 18th June 07:52

[Porsche911R]

daro911 said:

My current 981 Spyder was £14k over list to my spec so a 718 with same ticked boxes would be circa £88k assuming the Spyder still comes standard with buckets

It was pts though, a fully speced Spyder last time with steels was only £67k as you did not need to add much. So 1/2 the cost of the options you speced.

[daro911]

Porsche911R said:

daro911 said:

My current 981 Spyder was £14k over list to my spec so a 718 with same ticked boxes would be circa £88k assuming the Spyder still comes standard with buckets

It was pts though, a fully speced Spyder last time with steels was only £67k as you did not need to add much. So 1/2 the cost of the options you speced.

Correct but I did say if "I" tick the same boxes so for me £88K and reading between the lies it seems that buckets are now going to cost extra on both models this time around and not just the GT4

0.01 secs shaved off the 0-62mph was a disappointment too IMO

[philnotts]

This surely is going to cause a big waiting time and still early cars being flipped? It be interesting to know if "anyone" can simply walk into a OPC and order a GT4/Spyder without any history with that OPC, as that's whats being suggested.

Any current 981 Spyder owners swapping to 718 Spyder?

[Taffy66]

philnotts said:

This surely is going to cause a big waiting time and still early cars being flipped? It be interesting to know if "anyone" can simply walk into a OPC and order a GT4/Spyder without any history with that OPC, as that's whats being suggested.

Any current 981 Spyder owners swapping to 718 Spyder?

I was looking forward to upgrade my current 981 Spyder for the new one..I was really keen last night until i read that the new Spyder has magically put on a whopping 105KG over my lithe 981 Spyder..I fully realise that under the new WLTP homologation regulations all new cars now need to have their official EU weight quoted in a much more realistic standard spec, but even so 105KG WTF..

[daro911]

Taffy66 said:

I was looking forward to upgrade my current 981 Spyder for the new one..I was really keen last night until i read that the new Spyder has magically put on a whopping 105KG over my lithe 981 Spyder..I fully realise that under the new WLTP homologation regulations all new cars now need to have their official EU weight quoted in a much more realistic standard spec, but even so 105KG WTF..

No wonder the 0-62mph has reduced by 0.01 seconds and guaranteed to not sound as good either plus CO.2 up from 230 to 249!

Edited by daro911 on Tuesday 18th June 08:49

[philnotts]

Give it a year and save 10k over list on the new Spyder!?

[av185]

philnotts said:

This surely is going to cause a big waiting time and still early cars being flipped? It be interesting to know if "anyone" can simply walk into a OPC and order a GT4/Spyder without any history with that OPC, as that's whats being suggested.

Any current 981 Spyder owners swapping to 718 Spyder?

The great Porsche marketing machine working overtime.

Despite what is claimed it categorically states both cars will be limited availability.

A few seem to think these few extra cars will kill premiums but this won't happen unfortunately.

[daro911]

av185 said:

The great Porsche marketing machine working overtime.

Despite what is claimed it categorically states both cars will be limited availability.

A few seem to think these few extra cars will kill premiums but this won't happen unfortunately.

Limited production run for MY2019 only as between now and factory summer shutdown is a very limited production time

MY2020 the gloves will be well and truly off

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-offic...

"One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn’t get one. Now we’re really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We’re not limited in a way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range.’"

[isaldiri]

Taffy66 said:

I was really keen last night until i read that the new Spyder has magically put on a whopping 105KG over my lithe 981 Spyder..I fully realise that under the new WLTP homologation regulations all new cars now need to have their official EU weight quoted in a much more realistic standard spec, but even so 105KG WTF..

I'm willing to bet if you actually weighed your car and the new one it will be no where close to 100+kg different. More like 30-40kg perhaps.

[DS240]

This looks great and it is nice it has retained a 6 cylinder na engine. The ethos has certainly changed since the 987.

I’m not in a position to swap to a 718 regardless, but this one would certainly tempt me if I was.

Having had a great time at the LM24 in the 987, I don’t really want for more. It’s just had its ninth birthday and still feels great to drive through France.

[eyebeebe]

Just spoke with my OPC. Looks like I will only be getting a car in 2020. Not sure what to think to be honest. The car itself looks great, but the non-limited production run is surely going to hurt its medium term value (no interest in flipping, but was hoping to keep for a couple of years at least at minimal cost). It‘s also comically expensive here in Switzerland at near as damn it £100k for the base model in a country with 7.7% VAT. I was also expecting delivery this year given I was supposed to be number one on their list.

Apparently the configurator should be up in the next day or so in Switzerland, so would expect the UK one before that. Dealer thought that the German one was already up, but I haven‘t been able to find it.

[boxsey]

eyebeebe said:

Apparently the configurator should be up in the next day or so in Switzerland, so would expect the UK one before that. Dealer thought that the German one was already up, but I haven‘t been able to find it.

Configurator is already up but you have to go through a back door in the website...go to build your own, select an 'old' model like the 718 cayman S and then when the configurator window loads go to the top left and select 718 GT4 or Spyder from the list.

[eyebeebe]

boxsey said:

Configurator is already up but you have to go through a back door in the website...go to build your own, select an 'old' model like the 718 cayman S and then when the configurator window loads go to the top left and select 718 GT4 or Spyder from the list.

Thanks. Lightly optioned (full buckets, Spyder classic interior, no PCCB) £110k. Having a bit of trouble convincing myself at that price. Same spec in the UK would be £85k.

Edit: £104k - forgot that there was an FX discount to apply. Still £20k more expensive and a lot less VAT

Edited by eyebeebe on Tuesday 18th June 13:38

[philnotts]

Quick go ... £82,481 - https://www.porsche-code.com/PLXH5645

You can spec rear parking this time lol!!

My 981 same spec Spyder was 68k... Bargain!

Edited by philnotts on Tuesday 18th June 13:26

[av185]

daro911 said:

av185 said:

The great Porsche marketing machine working overtime.

Despite what is claimed it categorically states both cars will be limited availability.

A few seem to think these few extra cars will kill premiums but this won't happen unfortunately.

Limited production run for MY2019 only as between now and factory summer shutdown is a very limited production time

MY2020 the gloves will be well and truly off

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-offic...

"One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn’t get one. Now we’re really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We’re not limited in a way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range.’"

I remain unconvinced. I don't think the limited availability simply refers to the very low number of cars likely to land in the UK at the end of this year.

Don't forget the 981 Spyder was/is a niche car reflected in only 223 UK examples. The 718 Spyder will theoretically be even more niche with GT suspension etc. I would be very surprised if the UK receives over max c350 cars.

c800 anticipated for the GT4.

Yes more customers should get one this time which is great, but these cars will still be relatively rare.

[Fokker]

av185 said:

I remain unconvinced. I don't think the limited availability simply refers to the very low number of cars likely to land in the UK at the end of this year.

Don't forget the 981 Spyder was/is a niche car reflected in only 223 UK examples. The 718 Spyder will theoretically be even more niche with GT suspension etc. I would be very surprised if the UK receives over max c350 cars.

c800 anticipated for the GT4.

Yes more customers should get one this time which is great, but these cars will still be relatively rare.

How many times did I say 4 litre lol

You're right AV, not everyone will be getting one. Each dealer will have an allocation and the lucky few will have a car.
Ive been told that there could even be fewer GT4's than last time so make if that what you will. 2 separate DP's told me that from their conversations with Porsche UK in Reading.

[av185]

Fokker said:

av185 said:

I remain unconvinced. I don't think the limited availability simply refers to the very low number of cars likely to land in the UK at the end of this year.

Don't forget the 981 Spyder was/is a niche car reflected in only 223 UK examples. The 718 Spyder will theoretically be even more niche with GT suspension etc. I would be very surprised if the UK receives over max c350 cars.

c800 anticipated for the GT4.

Yes more customers should get one this time which is great, but these cars will still be relatively rare.

How many times did I say 4 litre lol

You're right AV, not everyone will be getting one. Each dealer will have an allocation and the lucky few will have a car.
Ive been told that there could even be fewer GT4's than last time so make if that what you will. 2 separate DP's told me that from their conversations with Porsche UK in Reading.

That's interesting F!

And personally I think there is zero possibility of these cars being unlimited despite being made on mainstream production lines this time.

[Twinfan]

av185 said:

And personally I think there is zero possibility of these cars being unlimited despite being made on mainstream production lines this time.

They were all made on the same line last time - GT4s were built alongside all the other 981 Caymans at Osnabruck. It'll be no different for the 718.

Production capacity will be outstripped by demand, exactly the same as last time. That's the reason for limited supply.