Cayman GTS

[JayK12]

So Porsche have said a retro fit for mobile phone prep and bluetooth is £780!!

Some cars are heavily spec'd and some cars are a year or two newer and 6K miles lower but less spec :s.

I need to go test drive a 981 S, GTS, 718 this weekend, manual and PDK.

[kustard]

Deposit paid - will hopefully pick the car up this weekend!

Anyone want a 2010 Cayman S?

[JayK12]

kustard said:

Deposit paid - will hopefully pick the car up this weekend!

Anyone want a 2010 Cayman S?

Awesome congrats


This S looks good, but again low on options?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

This S is older and high miles but stacked with options.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 20th July 09:24

Does anyone know the service schedule on a GTS, annually or based on mileage? Do they have a running in service?

Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 20th July 09:53

[edo]

bcr5784 said:

edo said:

I'd rather have a slot to put my key to be honest. You just end up wondering where to put your keys.

No it's not like that - you keep your key in your pocket and you turn this extra "dummy" key which is permanently in the dash. That's why I regard it as a bit Heath Robinson.

No, I get how it works, I dont like keeping my key in my pocket, and I agree it looks st having a "key" stuck in the dash you still have to turn. It's a bodge.

[dreamcar]

JayK12 said:

Does anyone know the service schedule on a GTS, annually or based on mileage? Do they have a running in service?

Edited by JayK12 on Wednesday 20th July 09:53

Every two years or 20,000 miles whichever comes first. No running in service required. Brake fluid change every two years.

[NBTBRV8]

edo said:

No, I get how it works, I dont like keeping my key in my pocket, and I agree it looks st having a "key" stuck in the dash you still have to turn. It's a bodge.

As opposed to your ignition key...

[edo]

NBTBRV8 said:

edo said:

No, I get how it works, I dont like keeping my key in my pocket, and I agree it looks st having a "key" stuck in the dash you still have to turn. It's a bodge.

As opposed to your ignition key...

But I didnt pay an extra 600 quid for a key stuck in the dash I still have to turn. Instead of a key I have to put in the dash and turn.

[NBTBRV8]

edo said:

NBTBRV8 said:

edo said:

No, I get how it works, I dont like keeping my key in my pocket, and I agree it looks st having a "key" stuck in the dash you still have to turn. It's a bodge.

As opposed to your ignition key...

But I didnt pay an extra 600 quid for a key stuck in the dash I still have to turn. Instead of a key I have to put in the dash and turn.

You are also forgetting that you don't have to use the key at all with E&D. Just open the door and turn the starter, this is the main point of difference between the two. Pressing a button or turning a key takes the same amount of effort. The real thing you pay for is the ease of entry in to the car and the opening of the boot and frunk.

[JayK12]

dreamcar said:

Every two years or 20,000 miles whichever comes first. No running in service required. Brake fluid change every two years.

Thanks, test driving a PDK GTS and a Manual Boxster S to get a feel between the too this weekend, not sure what transmission i want.

[cypriot]

JayK12 said:

Thanks, test driving a PDK GTS and a Manual Boxster S to get a feel between the too this weekend, not sure what transmission i want.

make sure the manual Boxster S you drive has the sports chrono pack, which will give you the "sports plus" button. This is standard in a GTS, and this auto blips your downshifts in a manual car. Some people dont like that, but I personally love it!

Other than that, enjoy!

[JayK12]

cypriot said:

make sure the manual Boxster S you drive has the sports chrono pack, which will give you the "sports plus" button. This is standard in a GTS, and this auto blips your downshifts in a manual car. Some people dont like that, but I personally love it!

Other than that, enjoy!

I will check, but i heal and toe anyway so i will get an idea. Would feel strange the car rev matching and me not doing it, but hey im open to it. Also thinking the PDK might be fun too and can left foot brake everywhere then too. Excited

[Mario149]

cypriot said:

JayK12 said:

Thanks, test driving a PDK GTS and a Manual Boxster S to get a feel between the too this weekend, not sure what transmission i want.

make sure the manual Boxster S you drive has the sports chrono pack, which will give you the "sports plus" button. This is standard in a GTS, and this auto blips your downshifts in a manual car. Some people dont like that, but I personally love it!

Other than that, enjoy!

Also make sure you're happy with the gear ratios/in gear speeds. Make sure you give them both a thrashing or how you'd normally dive to enjoy them. Manual box 2nd and 3rd are significantly longer than the PDK equivalent and affect how much and when you change gear on fast country roads, esp if revving the car out. If you're happy with that, then the manual is a peach I personally couldn't get on board with them so went PDK but many others think differently.

[JayK12]

Mario149 said:

Also make sure you're happy with the gear ratios/in gear speeds. Make sure you give them both a thrashing or how you'd normally dive to enjoy them. Manual box 2nd and 3rd are significantly longer than the PDK equivalent and affect how much and when you change gear on fast country roads, esp if revving the car out. If you're happy with that, then the manual is a peach I personally couldn't get on board with them so went PDK but many others think differently.

Very good point thanks, i like my cars low geared so i can blast up and down the gears on A/B roads, more gear changes more fun imo.

[NBTBRV8]

Mario149 said:

Also make sure you're happy with the gear ratios/in gear speeds. Make sure you give them both a thrashing or how you'd normally dive to enjoy them. Manual box 2nd and 3rd are significantly longer than the PDK equivalent and affect how much and when you change gear on fast country roads, esp if revving the car out. If you're happy with that, then the manual is a peach I personally couldn't get on board with them so went PDK but many others think differently.

Everyone says this but I have found it to be no problem at all, the gearing seems pretty good and I don't hear the drone others have stated in 6th on the motorway. For example in second at 50kph you are doing ~2800rpm and it is just getting a bit to high for comfort, so 3rd is ideal.

For the poster in question, if you want an interactive car go for a manual (which is why so many of the reviews say get a manual), if you want no fuss stab and steer get PDK. No right nor wrong there, just what you want out of a car.

Edited by NBTBRV8 on Thursday 21st July 11:25

[bcr5784]

JayK12 said:

Thanks, test driving a PDK GTS and a Manual Boxster S to get a feel between the too this weekend, not sure what transmission i want.

Be careful to check what options are on each car - a GTS on 20" wheels with Pzeros and sports suspension will feel quite a bit different to an S with PASM and 19" Goodyears.

Think about ground clearance too if you have a vaguely steepish drive or some big speed humps locally. The GTS is worse than the S, PASM is 10mm below normal, SS 20mm. Not everyone seems to have a problem but I find even my S on PASM will ground occasionally.

[Mario149]

NBTBRV8 said:

Mario149 said:

Also make sure you're happy with the gear ratios/in gear speeds. Make sure you give them both a thrashing or how you'd normally dive to enjoy them. Manual box 2nd and 3rd are significantly longer than the PDK equivalent and affect how much and when you change gear on fast country roads, esp if revving the car out. If you're happy with that, then the manual is a peach I personally couldn't get on board with them so went PDK but many others think differently.

Everyone says this but I have found it to be no problem at all, the gearing seems pretty good and I don't hear the drone others that stated in 6th on the motorway. For example in second at 50kph you are doing ~2800rpm and it is just getting a bit to high for comfort, so 3rd is ideal.

My issue is nothing to do with noise/drone etc, it's about how fast I'm going at max revs in 2nd and 3rd and how often I need to swap gears. With the manual, it's 84mph in 2nd and ~116mph in 3rd, with the PDK it's 75mph and ~101mph i.e. you get to use more of the rev range in more of the gears less illegally. Ideally I'd like the ratios to be even shorter and similar to my 993 where max revs in 2nd is ~65mph and 100mph is almost redlining it in 4th!

One of the reasons I sold my 997.1 GT3 was that its in gear speeds were very similar to the manual 981 speeds. It annoyed me in the GT3 and it annoyed me even more in the 981.

But as you said, there's no right answer. If my 981 had to be my only fun car, I'd probably have gone manual as otherwise I'd miss the interaction too much. But given I'm lucky enough to have the 993 to thrash as well, I could go PDK and not lose my manual "fix"

[JayK12]

Thanks for the information guys, Im only test driving the Boxster S as its the only manual to try and get an idea of what i enjoy back to back.

My current fun/track car is closely geared and revs to 8700, i like to use all the revs available. 84mph in second down my tight b-roads is abit much, id only use 1st and 2nd. As much as i want involvement i want to use revs, i live on the red line, so i am thinking PDK might be in with a shout

[NBTBRV8]

Mario149 said:

NBTBRV8 said:

Mario149 said:

Also make sure you're happy with the gear ratios/in gear speeds. Make sure you give them both a thrashing or how you'd normally dive to enjoy them. Manual box 2nd and 3rd are significantly longer than the PDK equivalent and affect how much and when you change gear on fast country roads, esp if revving the car out. If you're happy with that, then the manual is a peach I personally couldn't get on board with them so went PDK but many others think differently.

Everyone says this but I have found it to be no problem at all, the gearing seems pretty good and I don't hear the drone others that stated in 6th on the motorway. For example in second at 50kph you are doing ~2800rpm and it is just getting a bit to high for comfort, so 3rd is ideal.

My issue is nothing to do with noise/drone etc, it's about how fast I'm going at max revs in 2nd and 3rd and how often I need to swap gears. With the manual, it's 84mph in 2nd and ~116mph in 3rd, with the PDK it's 75mph and ~101mph i.e. you get to use more of the rev range in more of the gears less illegally. Ideally I'd like the ratios to be even shorter and similar to my 993 where max revs in 2nd is ~65mph and 100mph is almost redlining it in 4th!

One of the reasons I sold my 997.1 GT3 was that its in gear speeds were very similar to the manual 981 speeds. It annoyed me in the GT3 and it annoyed me even more in the 981.

But as you said, there's no right answer. If my 981 had to be my only fun car, I'd probably have gone manual as otherwise I'd miss the interaction too much. But given I'm lucky enough to have the 993 to thrash as well, I could go PDK and not lose my manual "fix"

My comment about the drone wasn't reflected towards you, that's why I said others.

I haven't gone past 6k rpm so far, but at no point have I found the gearing to detract from the drive. I know it is a complaint though. I had a 997.2 GT3 and didn't find an issue with the gearing, nor was it ever an issue in any review.

[Mario149]

NBTBRV8 said:

My comment about the drone wasn't reflected towards you, that's why I said others.

Sorry, I misread!

NBTBRV8 said:

I haven't gone past 6k rpm so far, but at no point have I found the gearing to detract from the drive. I know it is a complaint though. I had a 997.2 GT3 and didn't find an issue with the gearing, nor was it ever an issue in any review.

I can't say for sure, but one suspects most reviewers don't pay too much attention to the speed limit when they're out assessing a car and have photographers/cameramen as lookouts! Hence the longer gearing may not have been an issue. We also have to bear in mind what the GT3 is used for: IMO it's just about justifiable in the GT3 as it's a car with track work as part of its raison d'etre. I never had any issue with its gearing when on track, but on the road I struggled, especially because the engine had such a glorious top end. You wanted it to be up there as much as possible, but 2nd gear was the only ratio you could really get near it in (assuming one doesn't drive everywhere in 1st!) without serious risk of plod throwing the book at you.

If I'd kept the GT3 I would have had a Cup or RS final drive put on it, had it de-winged and swapped the Carrera GT buckets (much more hardcore than the folding buckets) for regular sports seats or similar. Would have been a 997R in all but name and amazing. Still fab for the track but much better on the road. If 7GT3s prices ever soften (say back to what I paid for mine originally, £67K for a minty <30K mile car from 911V), I'd be sorely tempted to go back to one and do the above.

[wellzee]

Just a quick aside as I'm sure some here have had it done - has anyone retrofitted the switch to turn the passenger airbag off? How much did it cost? Asked OPC today and they wanted £396!