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We are all here to express an opinion that doesn't need to be clarified.
It's not quite as bad as it sounds to be fair, max bhp is down the curve a bit, so the max speed per gear is higher on paper Vs where you would typically change up when going for it in the real world. Same on most cars I know but the gap to the limiter seems larger on these.
Still too long regardless and yes the 718 has improved on it. Manual in the 2.0 in 2nd is late 60s iirc.
It's not quite as bad as it sounds to be fair, max bhp is down the curve a bit, so the max speed per gear is higher on paper Vs where you would typically change up when going for it in the real world. Same on most cars I know but the gap to the limiter seems larger on these.
Still too long regardless and yes the 718 has improved on it. Manual in the 2.0 in 2nd is late 60s iirc.
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
Geoff39GL said:
Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
Geoff39GL said:
Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
very rare spec and as good as they come.
I still might buy a Cayman GTS PDK as a daily, as 2 years in my Golf has put the miles sky high.
Daily cars vs my fun weekends cars are night and day choices to make.
testdrive said:
It's not quite as bad as it sounds to be fair, max bhp is down the curve a bit, so the max speed per gear is higher on paper Vs where you would typically change up when going for it in the real world. Same on most cars I know but the gap to the limiter seems larger on these.
Good point, makes sense. And probably explains why (apart from my dodgy memory) I didn't remember the gearing feeling as long as was implied earlier in the thread (70+ in 2nd, etc), though still long in reference to most other cars (and higher than I would see as ideal). Shame there's no easy way to shorten.
Why do Porsche persist with such long gears? (genuine question – is there actually a reason?) Even for sustained motorway cruising (and how many will even do that?), surely you don't need gears as long as they are? I can't believe that 0-60 is so important (to get to in 2nd) that it would even be a factor.
A manual 981 Cayman GTS with 4,800 miles for just under £60k. Is that realistic?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Captain James T said:
A manual 981 Cayman GTS with 4,800 miles for just under £60k. Is that realistic?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I'm not a fan of white cars but that's all the sports car you'd ever need.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
An equivalent GT4 would be £20k more, or an extra third of the price with increased insurance and running costs. Having driven both, unless you go on track or want the extra pose value/attention it's not worth the extra.
As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value
As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value
Twinfan said:
An equivalent GT4 would be £20k more, or an extra third of the price with increased insurance and running costs. Having driven both, unless you go on track or want the extra pose value/attention it's not worth the extra.
As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value
True - but I would make the same argument for an S over a GTS.As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value
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