Cayman GTS

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testdrive

2,909 posts

196 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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We are all here to express an opinion that doesn't need to be clarified.

It's not quite as bad as it sounds to be fair, max bhp is down the curve a bit, so the max speed per gear is higher on paper Vs where you would typically change up when going for it in the real world. Same on most cars I know but the gap to the limiter seems larger on these.

Still too long regardless and yes the 718 has improved on it. Manual in the 2.0 in 2nd is late 60s iirc.


Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?

Geoff39GL

573 posts

137 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Geoff39GL said:
Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?
Oy! Stop posting pictures of my car! biggrin

JayK12

2,324 posts

203 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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The manual feels even better when you put the GT4/Spyder short shifter in, its Porsche part at £180, easy fit and just makes it feel 100% better. Best change i did in mine, even with GT4 Steering wheel.

Fizzbomb

484 posts

108 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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AW10 said:
Oy! Stop posting pictures of my car! biggrin
Anymore pictures, I can look at them all day long...

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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Some gratuitous BGTS porn


Geoff39GL

573 posts

137 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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AW10 said:
Some gratuitous BGTS porn

Lovely I take it you don't want to sell it rotate

AW10

4,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th February 2019
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No, am enjoying it too much - and using it. I think the mileage stands at 13K (it was 4K when you traded it in the spring of 17?). 2 trips to the Swiss Alps and once beyond into the Italian lakes.

Geoff39GL

573 posts

137 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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AW10 said:
No, am enjoying it too much - and using it. I think the mileage stands at 13K (it was 4K when you traded it in the spring of 17?). 2 trips to the Swiss Alps and once beyond into the Italian lakes.
Yes got tempted by the GT4, glad your enjoying it smile

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Geoff39GL said:
Twinfan said:
Geoff39GL said:
I agree it is personal opinion, my 981 GTS was a manual and was fully loaded it was a lovely car and the manual box gave the involvement, yes the ratios were long but it was still preferable for me.
As a matter of fact when I exchanged it for the GT4, David (911R) enquired about purchasing it and if I had not been given such a good trade in he may have bought it.
That's quite amusing - I thought he hated the way the 981 looks and would also not consider one due to the EPS steering?
As a daily be ok, hence I thought about buying it, but was not for sale at the time, and he did get a crazy part ex price.
very rare spec and as good as they come.

I still might buy a Cayman GTS PDK as a daily, as 2 years in my Golf has put the miles sky high.

Daily cars vs my fun weekends cars are night and day choices to make.

bungle

1,874 posts

241 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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testdrive said:
It's not quite as bad as it sounds to be fair, max bhp is down the curve a bit, so the max speed per gear is higher on paper Vs where you would typically change up when going for it in the real world. Same on most cars I know but the gap to the limiter seems larger on these.
Good point, makes sense. And probably explains why (apart from my dodgy memory) I didn't remember the gearing feeling as long as was implied earlier in the thread (70+ in 2nd, etc), though still long in reference to most other cars (and higher than I would see as ideal).

Shame there's no easy way to shorten.

Why do Porsche persist with such long gears? (genuine question – is there actually a reason?) Even for sustained motorway cruising (and how many will even do that?), surely you don't need gears as long as they are? I can't believe that 0-60 is so important (to get to in 2nd) that it would even be a factor.


Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Gear change for a manual is definitely considered for the 0-62 time, plus longer gearing helps with emissions tests I think?

shiggy

66 posts

166 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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if i wanted a manual none daily then pricing now makes sense to buy a GT4..

clutch on the GT4 is far to heavy..

put a lid on that boxster lick

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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981 GTSs really seem to be holding firm pricing based on the OPC cars. 718 models are only slightly more expensive and the delta to GT4s has dropped.

Different buyers after each I suspect and maybe not so many people cross-model shopping.

Captain James T

615 posts

209 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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A manual 981 Cayman GTS with 4,800 miles for just under £60k. Is that realistic?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Budflicker

3,799 posts

185 months

Friday 8th February 2019
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Captain James T said:
A manual 981 Cayman GTS with 4,800 miles for just under £60k. Is that realistic?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I'm not a fan of white cars but that's all the sports car you'd ever need.

testdrive

2,909 posts

196 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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As nice as it is it makes no sense to me, I appreciate some will prefer it but may as well stump up for the GT4, after 3 yrs you may even get most of the difference back.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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An equivalent GT4 would be £20k more, or an extra third of the price with increased insurance and running costs. Having driven both, unless you go on track or want the extra pose value/attention it's not worth the extra.

As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value smile

bcr5784

7,118 posts

146 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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Twinfan said:
An equivalent GT4 would be £20k more, or an extra third of the price with increased insurance and running costs. Having driven both, unless you go on track or want the extra pose value/attention it's not worth the extra.

As for resale, GTS are doing just as well as GT4s for holding their value smile
True - but I would make the same argument for an S over a GTS.