Chris Harris GT4 review

[IMIA]

Asterix said:

IMIA said:

£80k for a well specced GT4. Daft...

Compared to what - just asking, not as a narky question.

2 seat rear engines cars that will obliterate most things on the road.

I'm thinking either lots more money or shonky (but well engineered) kit cars.

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

[PorscheGT4]

IMIA said:

£80k for a well specced GT4. Daft...

I have pretty much thrown most options at it at £73k !

[IMIA]

PorscheGT4 said:

IMIA said:

£80k for a well specced GT4. Daft...

I have pretty much thrown most options at it at £73k !

what carbon brakes , buckets and club sport package? thats hardly everything but this what id spec too - nothing else - maybe a funky colour actually

[PorscheGT4]

IMIA said:

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

a 10 year old car with 3k services prices, chocolate manafolds and steering arms which wear out in 5 minutes !

I really quite liked the idea of a F430 but soon changed my mind.

[IMIA]

PorscheGT4 said:

IMIA said:

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

a 10 year old car with 3k services prices, chocolate manafolds and steering arms which wear out in 5 minutes !

I really quite liked the idea of a F430 but soon changed my mind.

i have no experience of Fezzes but yes read about those issues.Nothing that capristo exhaust system inc manifolds and challenge steering arms can't sort.

[PorscheGT4]

anonymous said:

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you have no clue and have not lived with the cars and driven them like I have, you know the 981 does many more mph per gear due to the 20" wheels and the lower torque available in the R makes you never even question the gearing ! (and I do mean that, it's not an issue)

you have to have driven the cars for a while to get to know them.

paper stats can mean anything, it's how the cars work on the road which matters and no ones knows that till they have had them for a few months.

hence cars like the 350Z, GT3 and V8 M3 did not stay very long in my owner ship, I am not scared to say how it is and just resell them on after 2 months ( 8 months for the GT3 I really tried to bond with it)

[Asterix]

IMIA said:

Asterix said:

IMIA said:

£80k for a well specced GT4. Daft...

Compared to what - just asking, not as a narky question.

2 seat rear engines cars that will obliterate most things on the road.

I'm thinking either lots more money or shonky (but well engineered) kit cars.

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

Would have to be a 'new' comparison only.

I do agree, to some degree, with your comment regarding a used CS for a lot less, after all, that's what I drive and it's still a stunning car for any money - but I can't deny I'd love to have plenty more grunt and the feeling of a GT car.

I know from experience that a GT3 of comparable age to my CS isn't any faster through the twisties, even with it's Gucci tyres, but it does feel different - everything has an accuracy, tightness and solidity that is missing in the standard cars and it's hard to 'mod' that in as it's part of the integral engineering of the whole package.

[PorscheGT4]

IMIA said:

what carbon brakes , buckets and club sport package? thats hardly everything but this what id spec too - nothing else - maybe a funky colour actually

why would you add carbon brakes to a CS car ?

we all know carbon for track only cars would cost you 15k after 10 track days !

so for £73k you can go CS route with no PCM, stitching etc or go full Audi up tarted route.

bit like saying a GT3 is 145k no one adds every thing just because the boxes are there to tick ?

most people I know are pitching the GT4 at about £71 to £73k then just add the £5k for carbons if you want them on road.

[Dan911]

Want one!

[jackal]

anonymous said:

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Yep, chasing the viewing figures and having to refute his real inner being in the process.

I also find that his persona is being very specifically honed. His sense of exuberance, flamboyance, theatre seems to expand with each new piece. It looks as though breaking it into mainstream TV is the ultimate goal but then who can blame him, good luck to the fella. He does have a very good way with the camera.

[DMC2]

IMIA said:

sorry £84k and thats without colour to sample in Gulf Blue so £90k in a special colour lol. This is not spec I'd go for but suspect its typical. I'd happily buy a used manual 981 Cayman for £40k if I really wanted a Cayman - it will be almost as good for less than half the cost. GT4 doesn't even look all that quick on track and whilst Harris was trying to be enthusiastic you can tell the engine was a bit of a disappointment compared to the GT3

Base price: £ 64,451.00
Price for equipment: £ 19,875.00
Total Price:* £ 84,326.00

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Price
Price
Base price Cayman GT4
£ 64,451.00
Price for Equipment
£ 19,875.00
Total Price*
£ 84,326.00
Exterior Colour
GT Silver Metallic
U2
£ 1,595.00
Interior Colour
Black (stitching in Platinum Grey) Leather interior
78
£ 1,344.00
Exterior
Fuel filler cap with Aluminium look finish Exclusive
XYB
£ 89.00
Automatically dimming mirrors with integrated rain sensor
P13
£ 332.00
Bi-Xenon-Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS) in black
620
£ 477.00
Transmission / Chassis
Sport Chrono Package incl. Porsche Track Precision App and preparation for laptrigger
643
£ 1,085.00
Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB)
450
£ 4,977.00
6-speed manual gearbox
480
£ 0.00
Wheels
20-inch GT4 wheels
473
£ 0.00
Interior
HomeLink® (programmable garage door opener)
608
£ 194.00
Two-zone automatic climate control
573
£ 518.00
Clubsport package
003
£ 2,670.00
Full bucket seats
P11
£ 1,907.00
Interior Leather
Centre console trim in leather Exclusive
XHB
£ 162.00
Interior Carbon
Carbon interior package Exclusive
EGA
£ 668.00
Audio / Comm.
Electronic logbook
641
£ 356.00
Six disc CD/DVD autochanger
693
£ 396.00
Online Services
UN1
£ 122.00
Mobile phone preparation
619
£ 446.00
Sound Package Plus
490
£ 396.00
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including navigation module with universal audio interface
P23
£ 2,141.00
Total Price:*
£ 84,326.00

• including VAT - Please note the images displayed here may not be a complete and accurate representation of your chosen specification and so they should not be relied on. For further information on the appearence of colour, equipment, and other options, please contact your Porsche Centre.

That spec is full of meaningless tat. Low spec is £72k, high spec is £77k with ceramics. £80k with ceramics and the cage.

£72k for a brand new car of this quality is an utter bargain.

[DMC2]

IMIA said:

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

Oh dear god. Take wither of those on a track and hammer it, and see how big your bills are...

[Beanoir]

DMC2 said:

That spec is full of meaningless tat. Low spec is £72k, high spec is £77k with ceramics. £80k with ceramics and the cage.

£72k for a brand new car of this quality is an utter bargain.

Oh come on surely the 'online services' option is absolutley critical in a car of this nature...

[isaldiri]

DMC2 said:

IMIA said:

F360 or F430 Coupe manual with less than 10000-15000 miles maybe? Still almost box fresh I bet. Yes not new etc but honestly this is what I'd have instead in a heart beat...

Oh dear god. Take wither of those on a track and hammer it, and see how big your bills are...

If the squeaks and rattles and generally shoddily made interior doesn't get to him within a couple of hundred miles of driving prior to getting to track...

[miskalachi]

PorscheGT4 said:

IMIA said:

£80k for a well specced GT4. Daft...

I have pretty much thrown most options at it at £73k !

I'm with you there. Mine is coming in at 71k and I feel I've got everything I need - PCM, Buckets, Leather, Carbon

Bargain of the century if you ask me

[theRossatron]

Great review I thought and the car looks epic.

[AdamV12V]

IMIA said:

sorry £84k and thats without colour to sample in Gulf Blue so £90k in a special colour lol. This is not spec I'd go for but suspect its typical. I'd happily buy a used manual 981 Cayman for £40k if I really wanted a Cayman - it will be almost as good for less than half the cost. GT4 doesn't even look all that quick on track and whilst Harris was trying to be enthusiastic you can tell the engine was a bit of a disappointment compared to the GT3

I don't quite understand where you are going with this matey? Firstly your spec is not typical at all, its actually the most expensive I have seen anybody put together on all the various forums. £76k with std brakes or £81k with PCCB it the top end anybody is doing and realistically many are speccing strippers at around £68k.

Your comparison to an old Cayman makes no sense either - its an old car. If you must make a comparison to the 981 then like for like has to be a brand new GTS at which point the price difference is minimal and 12mths down the line after the first years depreciation the GT4 is likely to end up costing far less to own.

Still not sure what NEW car you think represents better value for money as a drivers car than the GT4 at this price. The GT4 was never going to be a better car than the GT3, Porsche just wouldn't want that, but it seems to me that its delivering 90% of a GT3 experience for 65% of the price. Surely that has to make it a bargain in anybody's book.

[PorscheGT4]

only car like this is the Evora 400 and that's more expensive.

[hunter 66]

So first time on track in a Ferrari after 15 years of Porsche ( Many GT cars, track and racing ) and what a revelation completely different way of driving , but loved it

[Steve Rance]

Girls car