Cayman R - owners/buyers/mods
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J-P said:
edc said:
J-P said:
edc said:
J-P said:
Agree - I'll do the RSS mods when I have the £3k or so I need, but I do find it a little slow on initial turn-in.
I know you probably have an aversion to this but consider the top mount slot drill mod. Of course I don't have as much invested in an R but I have done this to both my Boxsters to good effect and it has cost nothing. It sounds drastic but it's as good as invisible, after all you are talking a mere 5mm or so. Edit - I suggest this because I have seen your posts and you take a quite deliberate approach to your mods. Bit by bit and slowly rather than throwing the kitchen sink at it. This mod doesn't have to be the end goal but it helps you get a feel for a different set up before spending any big money.
Edited by edc on Friday 26th June 10:16
I was a little worried like you about too much NVH with firmer mounts. Mine are not retail products as such as they are the OE mounts with the hydro-elastic removed and replaced with poly material. So aside from the dayglow colour, looks stock. I have kept the old mounts too. I don't know if the R or 987 gearbox mounts are different to a 986. 1 hour labour to change.
With the top mount slot mod, whilst not reversible as such, you can go back to your previous geometry with no bother. I don't know how best to describe it to you as I think you feel this mod is like a load of mangled metal. Under the front plastic scuttle covers is a round plastic cap giving access to the top mount nut. This piece is already slotted to allow factory camber adjustment. The mod extends this 10mm slot to about 15mm. You make your adjustments for extra camber in situ and no differently to factory, replace plastic cap then covers and off you go! Unless you measure the slot there is almost no way to tell the difference.
edc said:
J-P said:
edc said:
J-P said:
edc said:
J-P said:
Agree - I'll do the RSS mods when I have the £3k or so I need, but I do find it a little slow on initial turn-in.
I know you probably have an aversion to this but consider the top mount slot drill mod. Of course I don't have as much invested in an R but I have done this to both my Boxsters to good effect and it has cost nothing. It sounds drastic but it's as good as invisible, after all you are talking a mere 5mm or so. Edit - I suggest this because I have seen your posts and you take a quite deliberate approach to your mods. Bit by bit and slowly rather than throwing the kitchen sink at it. This mod doesn't have to be the end goal but it helps you get a feel for a different set up before spending any big money.
Edited by edc on Friday 26th June 10:16
I was a little worried like you about too much NVH with firmer mounts. Mine are not retail products as such as they are the OE mounts with the hydro-elastic removed and replaced with poly material. So aside from the dayglow colour, looks stock. I have kept the old mounts too. I don't know if the R or 987 gearbox mounts are different to a 986. 1 hour labour to change.
With the top mount slot mod, whilst not reversible as such, you can go back to your previous geometry with no bother. I don't know how best to describe it to you as I think you feel this mod is like a load of mangled metal. Under the front plastic scuttle covers is a round plastic cap giving access to the top mount nut. This piece is already slotted to allow factory camber adjustment. The mod extends this 10mm slot to about 15mm. You make your adjustments for extra camber in situ and no differently to factory, replace plastic cap then covers and off you go! Unless you measure the slot there is almost no way to tell the difference.
Results are in boys. 55 bhp up from the mods. As for the price? Well, it aint cheap.
Call Jens for a quote tell him you want the same as me.
From 315 to 371 BHP on the same dyno. Quite Drastic I`d say. Lambda is perfect.
revs to 7780 sounds like a motorcycle.
Call Jens for a quote tell him you want the same as me.
From 315 to 371 BHP on the same dyno. Quite Drastic I`d say. Lambda is perfect.
revs to 7780 sounds like a motorcycle.
Edited by Axel987 on Saturday 27th June 16:45
Edited by Axel987 on Saturday 27th June 16:46
Axel987 said:
Results are in boys. 55 bhp up from the mods. As for the price? Well, it aint cheap.
Call Jens for a quote tell him you want the same as me.
From 315 to 371 BHP on the same dyno. Quite Drastic I`d say. Lambda is perfect.
revs to 7780 sounds like a motorcycle.
That sounds pretty magnificent! Great gains there! And I know what price to ask for Call Jens for a quote tell him you want the same as me.
From 315 to 371 BHP on the same dyno. Quite Drastic I`d say. Lambda is perfect.
revs to 7780 sounds like a motorcycle.
Edited by Axel987 on Saturday 27th June 16:45
Edited by Axel987 on Saturday 27th June 16:46
fridaypassion said:
Any R owners in West Yorkshire?
Happy to do a back to back/swap in mine against an R on my test route. I'm interested to see what the difference is I would wager it aint a lot in the grand scheme.
We are on the interwebz and a particularly fierce corner of it. People will defend their own choice of car thats human nature. I'm happy to give a totally unbiased opinion after a ride on an R. I'm fortunate to have stuff in the business that kicks the arse of any S/R whatever Cayman on road and track so I have high standards in ride and handling dealing with the Lotus stuff which is the pinnacle of whats possible with windows and a roof. The Honda K20 powered Elise I sold to fund the Cayman would tear an Cayman R a new bum hole in any situation other than long journey comfort!
Me personally not really fussed if the R is better I'm happy to report that the premium is worth it but if it isnt you'll get to find out. As I reported from my initial drive I have a test route I use for test drives and benchmarking of all kinds of different cars. I was expecting nothing more than average from the Cayman S and it proved to be pretty darn good. This is with the active suspension in normal mode. The sport mode is simply overdamped for road use but the regular mode is very compliant for a car of this weight. The steering is excellent, its reasonably fast. Its completely different to a Boxster which I've had before and its better in almost every way other than noise than the Z4M coupe which is a very solid benchmark for the Cayman.
Selling already?????????????Happy to do a back to back/swap in mine against an R on my test route. I'm interested to see what the difference is I would wager it aint a lot in the grand scheme.
We are on the interwebz and a particularly fierce corner of it. People will defend their own choice of car thats human nature. I'm happy to give a totally unbiased opinion after a ride on an R. I'm fortunate to have stuff in the business that kicks the arse of any S/R whatever Cayman on road and track so I have high standards in ride and handling dealing with the Lotus stuff which is the pinnacle of whats possible with windows and a roof. The Honda K20 powered Elise I sold to fund the Cayman would tear an Cayman R a new bum hole in any situation other than long journey comfort!
Me personally not really fussed if the R is better I'm happy to report that the premium is worth it but if it isnt you'll get to find out. As I reported from my initial drive I have a test route I use for test drives and benchmarking of all kinds of different cars. I was expecting nothing more than average from the Cayman S and it proved to be pretty darn good. This is with the active suspension in normal mode. The sport mode is simply overdamped for road use but the regular mode is very compliant for a car of this weight. The steering is excellent, its reasonably fast. Its completely different to a Boxster which I've had before and its better in almost every way other than noise than the Z4M coupe which is a very solid benchmark for the Cayman.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Sarnie said:
fridaypassion said:
Any R owners in West Yorkshire?
Happy to do a back to back/swap in mine against an R on my test route. I'm interested to see what the difference is I would wager it aint a lot in the grand scheme.
We are on the interwebz and a particularly fierce corner of it. People will defend their own choice of car thats human nature. I'm happy to give a totally unbiased opinion after a ride on an R. I'm fortunate to have stuff in the business that kicks the arse of any S/R whatever Cayman on road and track so I have high standards in ride and handling dealing with the Lotus stuff which is the pinnacle of whats possible with windows and a roof. The Honda K20 powered Elise I sold to fund the Cayman would tear an Cayman R a new bum hole in any situation other than long journey comfort!
Me personally not really fussed if the R is better I'm happy to report that the premium is worth it but if it isnt you'll get to find out. As I reported from my initial drive I have a test route I use for test drives and benchmarking of all kinds of different cars. I was expecting nothing more than average from the Cayman S and it proved to be pretty darn good. This is with the active suspension in normal mode. The sport mode is simply overdamped for road use but the regular mode is very compliant for a car of this weight. The steering is excellent, its reasonably fast. Its completely different to a Boxster which I've had before and its better in almost every way other than noise than the Z4M coupe which is a very solid benchmark for the Cayman.
Selling already?????????????Happy to do a back to back/swap in mine against an R on my test route. I'm interested to see what the difference is I would wager it aint a lot in the grand scheme.
We are on the interwebz and a particularly fierce corner of it. People will defend their own choice of car thats human nature. I'm happy to give a totally unbiased opinion after a ride on an R. I'm fortunate to have stuff in the business that kicks the arse of any S/R whatever Cayman on road and track so I have high standards in ride and handling dealing with the Lotus stuff which is the pinnacle of whats possible with windows and a roof. The Honda K20 powered Elise I sold to fund the Cayman would tear an Cayman R a new bum hole in any situation other than long journey comfort!
Me personally not really fussed if the R is better I'm happy to report that the premium is worth it but if it isnt you'll get to find out. As I reported from my initial drive I have a test route I use for test drives and benchmarking of all kinds of different cars. I was expecting nothing more than average from the Cayman S and it proved to be pretty darn good. This is with the active suspension in normal mode. The sport mode is simply overdamped for road use but the regular mode is very compliant for a car of this weight. The steering is excellent, its reasonably fast. Its completely different to a Boxster which I've had before and its better in almost every way other than noise than the Z4M coupe which is a very solid benchmark for the Cayman.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Cheeeeeeap R;
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
I'd expect a dealer to be snapping that up and it reappearing in a few weeks..............
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
I'd expect a dealer to be snapping that up and it reappearing in a few weeks..............
Sarnie said:
Just the people that buy them..............
And seem to sell them just as fast.It's not imo this time, you only have to watch what comes up for sales in Spyder and R to see manuals sell like hot cakes and Auto's stick around.
The issue is Manual sellers now what bigger money for either and so some are now sticking at £50k but that is over priced imo.
there are 5 R's for sale at OPC's all Automatic's and guess what , yes Zero manuals. (only Spyder for sale is an Auto as well)
So this time, as I said it's not imo, it's a small fact :-p
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Thursday 2nd July 16:07
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