12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[jh001ace]

woollyjoe said:

Reliably informed it is not Viper. haven't seen but heard its lovely

Saw it yesterday when collecting my wife's GTS, looks like a light metallic BRG, would not be my choice for what it's worth!

[baronbennyt]

SimonOcean said:

Have you still got the Blue 12C? That was/is a fantastic looking car.

I'm selling the 12C - it's an epic looking thing and blindingly fast but just not cut out for regular track use in my opinion. That's why I've come back to Porsche - one of the very few brands ideally cut out for this sort of thing. I'll miss the Mac but I couldn't be happier with the GT4.

[baronbennyt]

Bedlamater said:

Guildford... The exhaust note is a beut, best 6 I've experienced since my E46 M3 days (apart from a single run out in a 981 Spyder) I recon.. Now who can tell me of some fun routes to drive in the south east?

Head for the Surrey Hills - not the very best drivers' roads but magnificent views and scenery as well as some great pubs.

[P.Griffin]

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

[timpo]

jh001ace said:

Saw it yesterday when collecting my wife's GTS, looks like a light metallic BRG, would not be my choice for what it's worth!

Here's a photo of the car if that helps with the colour.

[Koln-RS]

P.Griffin said:

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

I think the difference in pricing will be determined by a number of factors:

- Most important will be the specification (options). If you find an original price list you will see that GT4s with a very basic spec were c.£70k, but those with all the desirable options and the paint protection film were probably nearer £85k. PTS can add value, but only if you like the colour. I think most GT4 colours were good.

- OPC cars will carry a price premium, but they should be prepared like new, and come with the best post purchase protection and warranty

- Mileage makes a bit of difference, obviously lower the better, but don't pay a premium for 'delivery mileage' if you intend to use it.

- As does registration date - later the better

I can see why there is a spread in prices. If I was buying, I'd work out my most desirable spec and then see what I could negotiate.

[nudgerwilliams]

Bedlamater said:

Guildford... The exhaust note is a beut, best 6 I've experienced since my E46 M3 days (apart from a single run out in a 981 Spyder) I recon.. Now who can tell me of some fun routes to drive in the south east?

Brighton Road from Godalming then A281 to Horsham is a great run, but you will need to be on it very early or very late (as with virtually all roads in the south-east). Lots of A272 is good as well - but again only early / late.

In general, wider / smoother best suits the GT4 IMO.

Enjoy the car - it's a belter.

David

[P.Griffin]

Koln-RS said:

P.Griffin said:

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

I think the difference in pricing will be determined by a number of factors:

- Most important will be the specification (options). If you find an original price list you will see that GT4s with a very basic spec were c.£70k, but those with all the desirable options and the paint protection film were probably nearer £85k. PTS can add value, but only if you like the colour. I think most GT4 colours were good.

- OPC cars will carry a price premium, but they should be prepared like new, and come with the best post purchase protection and warranty

- Mileage makes a bit of difference, obviously lower the better, but don't pay a premium for 'delivery mileage' if you intend to use it.

- As does registration date - later the better

I can see why there is a spread in prices. If I was buying, I'd work out my most desirable spec and then see what I could negotiate.

Thanks...the points you make seem valid but £20k spread on prices is a little confusing to my mind. I know this question will probably be a can of worms but what are generally considered must haves (not fussed about it being a Clubsport)?

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:32

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:33

[paralla]

nudgerwilliams said:

Brighton Road from Godalming then A281 to Horsham is a great run, but you will need to be on it very early or very late (as with virtually all roads in the south-east). Lots of A272 is good as well - but again only early / late.

In general, wider / smoother best suits the GT4 IMO.

Enjoy the car - it's a belter.

David

No matter how early you go watch for cyclists.

[dom9]

nudgerwilliams said:

Brighton Road from Godalming then A281 to Horsham is a great run, but you will need to be on it very early or very late (as with virtually all roads in the south-east). Lots of A272 is good as well - but again only early / late.

In general, wider / smoother best suits the GT4 IMO.

Enjoy the car - it's a belter.

David

I grew up on that road... It's where I had my first ever spin, 20 years ago!

Surrey guys - Don't forget there is a PH meet in Cobham on Sunday: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[P.Griffin]

nudgerwilliams said:

Bedlamater said:

Guildford... The exhaust note is a beut, best 6 I've experienced since my E46 M3 days (apart from a single run out in a 981 Spyder) I recon.. Now who can tell me of some fun routes to drive in the south east?

Brighton Road from Godalming then A281 to Horsham is a great run, but you will need to be on it very early or very late (as with virtually all roads in the south-east). Lots of A272 is good as well - but again only early / late.

In general, wider / smoother best suits the GT4 IMO.

Enjoy the car - it's a belter.

David

Agree with the A272. The bonus is that it also links into the A283 from Petworth to Godalming.

This should be a nice circuit.....

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Godalming/Petwor...

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:55

[Taffy66]

P.Griffin said:

Thanks...the points you make seem valid but £20k spread on prices is a little confusing to my mind. I know this question will probably be a can of worms but what are generally considered must haves (not fussed about it being a Clubsport)?

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:32

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:33

First off choose a colour you like and after that the must haves are in order of desirability LWBS,full leather and PCM. I would not pay a penny premium for Clubsport as i don't feel it adds anything unless you want harnesses but after owning a GT4 with pccbs would not buy a GT Porsche without them but that's a personal choice and pccbs seem to add £5k to the price.
The best value ones to buy now imo would be a full spec GT4 with pccb,clubsport,LWBS,leather,carbon trim,PCM etc which don't seem to be making much over list now imv.
My old guards GT4 is for sale at Cardiff OPC now with LWBS and pccb and was run in by the book and never revved hard from cold and a great spec if it suits you and never had a paint chip in the 18mths and 3430m whilst in my tenure.

[Bedlamater]

P.Griffin said:

nudgerwilliams said:

Bedlamater said:

Guildford... The exhaust note is a beut, best 6 I've experienced since my E46 M3 days (apart from a single run out in a 981 Spyder) I recon.. Now who can tell me of some fun routes to drive in the south east?

Brighton Road from Godalming then A281 to Horsham is a great run, but you will need to be on it very early or very late (as with virtually all roads in the south-east). Lots of A272 is good as well - but again only early / late.

In general, wider / smoother best suits the GT4 IMO.

Enjoy the car - it's a belter.

David

Agree with the A272. The bonus is that it also links into the A283 from Petworth to Godalming.

This should be a nice circuit.....

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Godalming/Petwor...

Edited by P.Griffin on Wednesday 2nd August 13:55

Cheers for the tips and trips... Any routes from London to Brighton any can recommend?

[P.Griffin]

Bedlamater said:

Cheers for the tips and trips... Any routes from London to Brighton any can recommend?

Nothing that great between London and Brighton but if you need to travel that way and don't want to take the M23, use the A22 and onto the A275 to Newhaven then along the coast road to Brighton from there.

[cypriot]

I can recommend the A272, but the full road, starting near Winchester and going west. it has to be early, and always watch for cyclists, but the road is great.

[Koln-RS]

P.Griffin said:

Koln-RS said:

P.Griffin said:

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

I think the difference in pricing will be determined by a number of factors:

- Most important will be the specification (options). If you find an original price list you will see that GT4s with a very basic spec were c.£70k, but those with all the desirable options and the paint protection film were probably nearer £85k. PTS can add value, but only if you like the colour. I think most GT4 colours were good.

- OPC cars will carry a price premium, but they should be prepared like new, and come with the best post purchase protection and warranty

- Mileage makes a bit of difference, obviously lower the better, but don't pay a premium for 'delivery mileage' if you intend to use it.

- As does registration date - later the better

I can see why there is a spread in prices. If I was buying, I'd work out my most desirable spec and then see what I could negotiate.

Thanks...the points you make seem valid but £20k spread on prices is a little confusing to my mind. I know this question will probably be a can of worms but what are generally considered must haves (not fussed about it being a Clubsport)?

I haven't looked closely at the prices, but a quick glance suggests that most GT4s fall into a £10k/10% price spread.

Only you can judge what are the 'must haves', depending on your intended use, but it's wise to have an eye on resale.

From what I've gleened, CS and steels for mainly track use, but non-CS, PCCBs, cruise, climate, PCM, Phone, DAB, leather, etc, etc, for mainly road use. Majority seem to want the 918 lwt buckets. It's a GT, it should be spec'd to feel very special.

[GT4P]

P.Griffin said:

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

The first thing you need to choose is colour and colour of wheels ,secondly decide what seats suit YOU I found like others the Lwbs uncomfortable so opted for the folding buckets which for ME are so more comfortable especially on long journeys but others cannot get on with buckets so have stayed with sports seats. Thirdly the car needs full leather as it lifts the cabin this was a cost option. After those 3 everything is personal but I would suggest the pdls xenon lights if of a certain age or do a lot of night time driving. I personally would not get hung up on PCM 3.0 its crap the one in my £10k ford is better. I didn't spec. PCM but did go sound package plus which is basically the PCM unit without the maps but you do get DAB and better sound the other important extra is mobile phone connection. And for me that's all you need unless you want ceramics but the steels are excellent!
Basic cars were £65k a reasonable spec was about £70-75k list so £85-90k is where cars are at in dealers and £80-85k private which I would not be afraid of buying as most still have at least 18 months warranty left!
Just to add basic cars came with aircon but climate control which is dual zone was an extra which is a box I ticked as thought it worth the extra spend in a high value car coupe!

Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 2nd August 15:25

[md_ian]

P.Griffin said:

A GT4 is on the shortlist for my next motor. Can anyone tell me what's been going on with prices as I have only just started looking and notice there's a huge spread in prices form sub £80k to over £100k? Ashgood have one sub £80...is it missing an essential option or is this the start of a bit of depreciation? Any help appreciated, thanks,.

Most important thing is to pick a GT4 that suits your requirements. The beauty at the moment is choice. Expect to pay around £10k over list (including any options). Base car was £64k, and was possible to spec with options to about £84k, so that might account for spread; plus mileage seems to have a significant effect too at the moment.

If you want to protect yourself against larger losses (if any), then spec PCM (nav), Mobile, Race seats and Leather dash. When I sold mine, the buyer (dealer) said without PCM and mobile, he would have offered £6k less because "everyone asks for it". Given that the two were around £4k (don't quote me) as a option, it goes to show what an impact it has.

[GT4P]

PCM was circa £2k phone prep about £500. Phone prep is key , was told with PCM expect to loose what it cost ie cars are £2k cheaper as long as it has CD-R plus which will have all the PCM functions bar maps not everyone wants an outdated system where apps on phones are better! And as time goes by will be even less important with no cost difference between cars with or without as per 9x7.2 cars which have the same system and no one worries about it when looking for say a 997.1/2 gt3 or a 987 CR/spyder!

[Fokker]

Koln-RS said:

I think the difference in pricing will be determined by a number of factors:

- Most important will be the specification (options). If you find an original price list you will see that GT4s with a very basic spec were c.£70k, but those with all the desirable options and the paint protection film were probably nearer £85k. PTS can add value, but only if you like the colour. I think most GT4 colours were good.

- OPC cars will carry a price premium, but they should be prepared like new, and come with the best post purchase protection and warranty

- Mileage makes a bit of difference, obviously lower the better, but don't pay a premium for 'delivery mileage' if you intend to use it.

- As does registration date - later the better

I can see why there is a spread in prices. If I was buying, I'd work out my most desirable spec and then see what I could negotiate.

Yup, the lowest priced 8 on the locator all have a factoring reason as to why they're that cheap. Either no leather, no PCM, non buckets, dodgy interior colour panels, think one is red or indeed high miles as in 12 - 24k. I think those above 85k are better spec'd so the spread of decent spec'd cars is about 10k now from £85 - 95k.