12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Fokker said:
No, this one is also below list http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...

I dare say that a couple o grand off that is also achievable making it good value.
I know that car . It's had a proper Jzm track set up too .
Think the owner would take 78 all day for that

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
I know that car . It's had a proper Jzm track set up too .
Think the owner would take 78 all day for that
Yep so that would be what, 7k below list? smile

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Fokker said:
My car was 79k on the road and it was the same spec but didn't have carbon illuminated sills, light pack or Carbon interior.
Carbon interior was a grand alone so thats a plus 80k car.
I still cannot get it to £80k o well, your £79 inc's the show room tax and fee's, you paid. did you have DAB and cruise extra ?

I take it from Porsche you have to add £520 to tax these 2nd hand cars listed atm or are they on the road prices ?

I have 3 price specs in front of me, even my PTS slot of mexcio Blue was only £77k but that was missing carbon.

all prices I quote are sans the Show room TAX.

JeffC

1,690 posts

213 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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I noticed that OPC Bristol offered the white GT4 they have for sale on a Motor Trade auction site this week where every other car I have seen do pretty much retail money , it finished today at £67k .

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Porsche911R said:
I still cannot get it to £80k o well, your £79 inc's the show room tax and fee's, you paid. did you have DAB and cruise extra ?

I take it from Porsche you have to add £520 to tax these 2nd hand cars listed atm or are they on the road prices ?

I have 3 price specs in front of me, even my PTS slot of mexcio Blue was only £77k but that was missing carbon.

all prices I quote are sans the Show room TAX.
Yes I had cruise and DAB but we're basically talking an £80k car and the point is that now you can have a GT4 from an OPC at below list and indeed have a choice of more than one at that - quite a few thousand below list too.

All prices are plus road tax but then you should be able to negotiate a little off the sticker price that will more than happily pay for road tax.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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JeffC said:
I noticed that OPC Bristol offered the white GT4 they have for sale on a Motor Trade auction site this week where every other car I have seen do pretty much retail money , it finished today at £67k .
Obviously didn't make reserve then and they're very keen to sell if entered to a trade sale... I reckon that car without a renewed warranty as there is no point anyway considering it doesn't run out till 2019 would be a had at £72 - £73k. A bargain for someone. A full 8k cheaper than list!

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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woollyjoe said:
You can't disagree that I felt misled ????

Two exceptionally high mileage cars do not mean they [GT4s] are selling under list... I don't think these examples are representative and why i found the statement misleading.

There have always been cars sold at or under list without the very high mileage, but they are extremely rare.
This all came about by someone saying that they were waiting for cars to become available for under list, i merely pointed out that this is the case already and proved the point, nothing more really. smile

If you want a well spec'd car with normal mileage, I agree that you still have to pay mid eighties so very little movement in the price of a good car in months... The only reason some cars are now cheaper is that some higher mileage cars are hitting the market as you say.

JeffC

1,690 posts

213 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Fokker said:
JeffC said:
I noticed that OPC Bristol offered the white GT4 they have for sale on a Motor Trade auction site this week where every other car I have seen do pretty much retail money , it finished today at £67k .
Obviously didn't make reserve then and they're very keen to sell if entered to a trade sale... I reckon that car without a renewed warranty as there is no point anyway considering it doesn't run out till 2019 would be a had at £72 - £73k. A bargain for someone. A full 8k cheaper than list!
No it never met reserve and cant say I was busting a nut to bid at that money or other traders in the country by the looks of it , there is massive uncertainty in the market for anything like this and also the classic car market which I follow more and personally I only see things going one way over the next year which is good if you are looking at buying its just timing and getting on the merry go round at the right time , money is tighter than it has been and expensive cars I have noticed buyers now treat like houses and shares they always want an idea what it will be worth when they sell, and human nature no one wants to put there money into something on a falling market, buying any of the new GT cars was a no brainer but second hand its not so cut and dry.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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JeffC said:
I noticed that OPC Bristol offered the white GT4 they have for sale on a Motor Trade auction site this week where every other car I have seen do pretty much retail money , it finished today at £67k .
That's interesting . I'd love to know what the reserve was out of curiosity

ChrisW.

6,325 posts

256 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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HokumPokum said:
how do u know what month and year?
A very good question with a simple answer smile

I got one of the very first and took delivery of it in mid September ...

But there are manufacturers quality batch tabs to be found around the components of the car ?



FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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JeffC said:
No it never met reserve and cant say I was busting a nut to bid at that money or other traders in the country by the looks of it , there is massive uncertainty in the market for anything like this and also the classic car market which I follow more and personally I only see things going one way over the next year which is good if you are looking at buying its just timing and getting on the merry go round at the right time , money is tighter than it has been and expensive cars I have noticed buyers now treat like houses and shares they always want an idea what it will be worth when they sell, and human nature no one wants to put there money into something on a falling market, buying any of the new GT cars was a no brainer but second hand its not so cut and dry.
There has been a big shift in sentiment i agree. I can see it in the housing mkt so with luxury items its inevitable.

Still surprised that an OPC stuck it in a trade sale though, without wanting to tarnish the car it makes me wonder about it. Or they have so many cars onsite sometimes they have to lighten the load

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
There has been a big shift in sentiment i agree. I can see it in the housing mkt so with luxury items its inevitable.

Still surprised that an OPC stuck it in a trade sale though, without wanting to tarnish the car it makes me wonder about it. Or they have so many cars onsite sometimes they have to lighten the load
only reason to put a car like that though an auction is over revs imo.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Porsche911R said:
only reason to put a car like that though an auction is over revs imo.
They're advertising it again via the OPC so that can't be the situation.
They've only had it about 2 months from what I can see, it'll sell, they always do...

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Fokker said:
They're advertising it again via the OPC so that can't be the situation.
They've only had it about 2 months from what I can see, it'll sell, they always do...
GT4 is back into bargain money imo, makes the 991.1 GT3 look well over priced.

As you stated a spced 718 can be £70k and Evora 410 is £85k, 997 GT3 £85k and work needed on most.

2nd hand GT4 at todays prices are value for money now, I cannot think of a car to match it for £80k.

Also makes the GTS Cayman look daft money as the low miles ones are £65k

issue is it's not a 911, so like my Cayman R the market has gone back to the enthusiast and not the money makers or posers lol

All the last batch of GT cars are being off loaded now the 991RS is a prime example, an amazing car but 33 cars for sale !

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Fokker said:
They're advertising it again via the OPC so that can't be the situation.
They've only had it about 2 months from what I can see, it'll sell, they always do...
I think for peace of mind I'd still insist it's taken to an independent for a Rev range test

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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New sharkwerks vid, I know there have been many but this is a better one.

https://youtu.be/5C8LbOEZiWY

A lightweight flywheel and 430BHP really does exite me on the GT4.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 28th September 10:33

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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FocusRS3 said:
I think for peace of mind I'd still insist it's taken to an independent for a Rev range test
I'd be very inclined to trust the OPC. You could also way ask for a readout.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Porsche911R said:
GT4 is back into bargain money imo, makes the 991.1 GT3 look well over priced.
All the last batch of GT cars are being off loaded now the 991RS is a prime example, an amazing car but 33 cars for sale !
You can still make a decent profit on a 991RS that you bought new which is why they are still numerous used.
If they drop to the 170k mark people will be more inclined to keep them... That's what's happened to the GT4 basically which is why they're selling well and I would imagine the values are pretty stable from here on... A GTS at 65k and a 718S at similar money will ensure they don't fall any further. I dont think it'll be long until we see single figures on the Locator now...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Porsche911R said:
Also makes the GTS Cayman look daft money as the low miles ones are £65k

issue is it's not a 911, so like my Cayman R the market has gone back to the enthusiast and not the money makers or posers lol
GTS and GT4 are now both roughly trading at list, like for like with 5k-ish miles. Given the number of 600ish of each I'm not surprised the GT4 has stabilised similarly - it was only a matter of time. One more suited to road and one more to track, one with PDK as an option and one manual only means there are different groups of buyers for each.

Both cars sell well to their respective purchasers.

FocusRS3

3,411 posts

92 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Twinfan said:
GTS and GT4 are now both roughly trading at list, like for like with 5k-ish miles. Given the number of 600ish of each I'm not surprised the GT4 has stabilised similarly - it was only a matter of time. One more suited to road and one more to track, one with PDK as an option and one manual only means there are different groups of buyers for each.

Both cars sell well to their respective purchasers.
I do wonder what percentage of gen 2 GT4 buyers will opt for PDK
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