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FocusRS3 said:
PCCB's an issue for 4-5 track days per year would you say?
No, I wouldn't say that. However, I haven't used PCCB's on track yet, but I'm told they are perfectly ok so long as they are cooled down properly. Most GT3's and the new GT2 seem to have them and those cars have more weight / power so should be fine on GT4. jcosh said:
No, I wouldn't say that. However, I haven't used PCCB's on track yet, but I'm told they are perfectly ok so long as they are cooled down properly. Most GT3's and the new GT2 seem to have them and those cars have more weight / power so should be fine on GT4.
I love them although in the back of my mind id be concerned about the cost of replacement. I think i once heard all round is in excess of 10k. The GT4 with the Carrera S brakes were substantial enough on my old car but i think the ceramics set the car off nicely av185 said:
Yep, another vote for the 981 Spyder over the GT4.
Nothing in it performance wise between the two cars for road use.
But the Spyder is arguably a 'better' package mindful of the drawbacks of the GT4's non GT engine.
A good comparison imo would be the Spyder to the GT4 is what the 911R is to the 991 GT3.
Does the Spyder have a GT engine? I thought not.Nothing in it performance wise between the two cars for road use.
But the Spyder is arguably a 'better' package mindful of the drawbacks of the GT4's non GT engine.
A good comparison imo would be the Spyder to the GT4 is what the 911R is to the 991 GT3.
nudgerwilliams said:
av185 said:
Yep, another vote for the 981 Spyder over the GT4.
Nothing in it performance wise between the two cars for road use.
But the Spyder is arguably a 'better' package mindful of the drawbacks of the GT4's non GT engine.
A good comparison imo would be the Spyder to the GT4 is what the 911R is to the 991 GT3.
Does the Spyder have a GT engine? I thought not.Nothing in it performance wise between the two cars for road use.
But the Spyder is arguably a 'better' package mindful of the drawbacks of the GT4's non GT engine.
A good comparison imo would be the Spyder to the GT4 is what the 911R is to the 991 GT3.
It doesn't need one as, unlike the GT4, it isn't a 'GT' car.
nudgerwilliams said:
Does the Spyder have a GT engine? I thought not.
Spyder & GT4 have the same 3.8L non GT engine 
Porsche revealed the latest Spyder model in April 2015 at the New York Auto Show. The styling of the car is similar to the previous generation Spyder, continuing the twin hump rear deck and manually operated canvas top. It also shares some styling with the Cayman GT4, using the same front and rear fascia. The engine is also shared with the Cayman GT4, a 3.8l flat-6, making this the largest capacity and most powerful engine used in a Boxster with 287 kilowatts (385 bhp). It is also the lightest current Porsche, weighing 1,315 kilograms (2,899 lb). This was achieved through the use of aluminum doors and rear lid, the manually operated roof and unique light weight 20 inch wheels
FocusRS3 said:
Having had both i'd say the difference is that in a GT3 you get a decent full size cage. £2700 for the GT4 cage seemed excessive to me which is why i never bothered given its not so much of a feature as in the GT3
Yes I don't think I'd bother again if I'm lucky enough to spec the new GT4. If anything, it's just weight in the wrong place and you're paying £2400 for a harness. I'd rather spend the £2400 on a few other options. My 2nd GT4 isn't a CS car unlike my first, I swear it feels lighter and more nimble but then it could be my mind playing games!Fokker said:
Yes I don't think I'd bother again if I'm lucky enough to spec the new GT4. If anything, it's just weight in the wrong place and you're paying £2400 for a harness. I'd rather spend the £2400 on a few other options. My 2nd GT4 isn't a CS car unlike my first, I swear it feels lighter and more nimble but then it could be my mind playing games!
no clunks either, cage was a daft option in the GT4 imo, you can still fit harness in a GT4 sans cage, the GT3 with no cage is much harder to fit a harness solution as no bulkhead.Also not TUV approved so the GT4 min cage is all weight and show. hence not an option in the USA.
Fokker said:
Yes I don't think I'd bother again if I'm lucky enough to spec the new GT4. If anything, it's just weight in the wrong place and you're paying £2400 for a harness. I'd rather spend the £2400 on a few other options. My 2nd GT4 isn't a CS car unlike my first, I swear it feels lighter and more nimble but then it could be my mind playing games!
Might the lack of clunking! 
FocusRS3 said:
I love them although in the back of my mind id be concerned about the cost of replacement. I think i once heard all round is in excess of 10k. The GT4 with the Carrera S brakes were substantial enough on my old car but i think the ceramics set the car off nicely
The yellow GT4 at the PEC has done 16k miles all on the track as its pre production so not allowed out on road. That's on its original set of PCCB's. As long as you cool them down properly you'll get many thousands of miles out of them on road and track.Rocks in the callipers also don't seem to be an issue in terms of marking what what I am told due t them being so hard, unless anyone on here has a story? Edited by Fokker on Friday 29th September 14:44
Fokker said:
The yellow GT4 at the PEC has done 16k miles all on the track as its pre production so not allowed out on road. That's on its original set of PCCB's. As long as you cool them down properly you'll get many thousands of miles out of them on road and track.Rocks in the callipers also don't seem to be an issue in terms of marking what what I am told due t them being so hard, unless anyone on here has a story?
that PEC car has had new PCCB's !!! they were ***after 3k miles when I went and new ones went on after that, it may have had yet another set since.I melted the tyres on my day, you cannot even touch the tyres and we came staright in and stopped !, so the cars are never cooled down and are abused to hell.
The thing with trackdays , they are full of noobs and the amount of red flags is 10 fold these days, so you cannot always cool down your car, last track day I went on we had 6 red flags ! So that's stopping 6 times with disc at >700oc !!! nothing you can do about it.
We had cars coming in with pads just about on fire as while the disc can glow red the pads cannot take that sort of heat.
def a bad choice for a car which see's the track even if it's just 3 or 4 PA it's the wrong setup to have imo.
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 29th September 14:56
Porsche911R said:
that PEC car has had new PCCB's !!! they were ***after 3k miles when I went and new ones went on after that, it may have had yet another set since.
I melted the tyres on my day, you cannot even touch the tyres and we came staright in and stopped !, so the cars are never cooled down and are abused to hell.
The thing with trackdays , they are full of noobs and the amount of red flags is 10 fold these days, so you cannot always cool down your car, last track day I went on we had 6 red flags ! So that's stopping 6 times with disc at >700oc !!! nothing you can do about it.
We had cars coming in with pads just about on fire as while the disc can glow red the pads cannot take that sort of heat.
def a bad choice for a car which see's the track even if it's just 3 or 4 PA it's the wrong setup to have imo.
My chap told me they were original, just going by the info info I was given.I melted the tyres on my day, you cannot even touch the tyres and we came staright in and stopped !, so the cars are never cooled down and are abused to hell.
The thing with trackdays , they are full of noobs and the amount of red flags is 10 fold these days, so you cannot always cool down your car, last track day I went on we had 6 red flags ! So that's stopping 6 times with disc at >700oc !!! nothing you can do about it.
We had cars coming in with pads just about on fire as while the disc can glow red the pads cannot take that sort of heat.
def a bad choice for a car which see's the track even if it's just 3 or 4 PA it's the wrong setup to have imo.
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 29th September 14:56
Twinfan said:
So the CEO of Porsche confirming a NASP Spyder at a large gathering of Porsche enthusiasts, when they could have just declined to answer, is "all speculation"? If so, they won't make an engine just for that car it will be used elsewhere and based on the 981 it'll go in the GT4 too.
"This would not be the first time a Porsche official has said one thing and another has happened!"
I know you want your current GT4 to be the only model produced with a NASP engine but I would say that's not going to be the case.
"Actually more than happy if another NA gt4 comes along it means I trade mine in at list and get a nice shiny more power new one! But as we approach 2019 I a more sceptical about the NA flat6 part."
Until more concrete evidence is presented then it's all a quessing game"This would not be the first time a Porsche official has said one thing and another has happened!"
I know you want your current GT4 to be the only model produced with a NASP engine but I would say that's not going to be the case.
"Actually more than happy if another NA gt4 comes along it means I trade mine in at list and get a nice shiny more power new one! But as we approach 2019 I a more sceptical about the NA flat6 part."
Porsche911R said:
who is to say the org one has already been scraped it has been over 2 years and it was def a pre production car.
MIght be another yellow one there by now.
Not that all this really matters but I drove it last week, 16000 miles and instructor said it was pre prod. Had no air con and a few other bits. Its the same car.MIght be another yellow one there by now.
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