12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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garethld said:
I’ve just bought another GT4 CS this week, having sold the old one in September last year.

The new model will have an impact on desirability as people naturally lean towards the latest and greatest, evidenced by the GT3. I was shopping around with up to £80k to spend and i really can’t see how you’ll get better value for money than a 981 GT4 in that price range. Assuming you buy well there shouldn’t really be more than £5-10k at stake in depreciation over the next 18 months. The well spec’d 718 GT4’s will be trading c.£100k so it’s a big enough gap. They’ll be competing more with the 991.1 gt3 in my opinion.

I think you want to be buying a well spec’d 981 GT4 with low miles for mid to late 70’s and then you’ll be fine. These cars aren’t going to start dropping to £60k any time soon!
That’s a gamble I think , imo we will see good spec cars at £65k this year.

Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 22 June 13:37

daro911

769 posts

253 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Porsche911R said:
That’s a gamble I think , imo we will see good spec cars at £65k this year.

Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 22 June 13:37
I think 718 F6 could end up like 987 Cayman R and Spyder a stock car with big discounts to shift stocks or unsold new car slots. It happened in 2011 and can easily repeat soon now the 718 F6’s are regular production cars, no longer lightweight and even have rear parking sensors laugh



GT4RS

4,430 posts

198 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Porsche911R said:
garethld said:
I’ve just bought another GT4 CS this week, having sold the old one in September last year.

The new model will have an impact on desirability as people naturally lean towards the latest and greatest, evidenced by the GT3. I was shopping around with up to £80k to spend and i really can’t see how you’ll get better value for money than a 981 GT4 in that price range. Assuming you buy well there shouldn’t really be more than £5-10k at stake in depreciation over the next 18 months. The well spec’d 718 GT4’s will be trading c.£100k so it’s a big enough gap. They’ll be competing more with the 991.1 gt3 in my opinion.

I think you want to be buying a well spec’d 981 GT4 with low miles for mid to late 70’s and then you’ll be fine. These cars aren’t going to start dropping to £60k any time soon!
That’s a gamble I think , imo we will see good spec cars at £65k this year.

Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 22 June 13:37
I’m not sure, I think the jump in price of the new gt4 will now help used 981 gt4 cars for a year or two now. If they marketed the new 718 gt4 for sub 70k it may of happened, a good spec 981 gt4 with sensible miles is an epic car even at 70k which they are currently not.

Will new 718 gt4 cars trade above 100k for a short while? The only ones who care about this are in it for the money not the ownership experience. If it suffers normal levels of depreciation and you can drive it daily surely a car enthusiast would be happy with that as it looks to be an epic car IMO for its price point at retail.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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There's a 30k GT4 on the used locator for £70k. I know it has higher than average miles, but I think prices may be softening now the 718 GT4 has been announced.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Red GT4 to be auctioned.

Anyone interested let me know. Not my car btw.

Wilmslowboy

4,212 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Carzana suggests it is this car

Video from Feb 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9riRxTX-1lI



https://cazana.com/uk/car/BL65TYC




av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Grade 3 car direct from UKCG (We buy any car). Now entered in Brighouse Yorkshire this Monday 24th.

Some paint chips to the front.

Fairly basic spec around £69k list, plastic dash, no extended leather and no nav probably explains why it's been traded.

Should be good value ££.

Edited by av185 on Saturday 22 June 21:33

GT4RS

4,430 posts

198 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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av185 said:
PaulAlex said:
So, no PDK, not numbers-limited, no significant performance increase and muted soundtrack?! I can see existing GT4 owners holding on to theirs and waiting for the (many!) used GT3 used values to reach a sweet spot...……...
GT3 different car different price different customer base.

And the 992 GT3 wont arrive until late 2021.
Apparently the new 992 gt3 we see being testing is also going to be built on a none limited bases.

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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GT4RS said:
av185 said:
PaulAlex said:
So, no PDK, not numbers-limited, no significant performance increase and muted soundtrack?! I can see existing GT4 owners holding on to theirs and waiting for the (many!) used GT3 used values to reach a sweet spot...……...
GT3 different car different price different customer base.

And the 992 GT3 wont arrive until late 2021.
Apparently the new 992 gt3 we see being testing is also going to be built on a none limited bases.
Lol just like all GT Porsches since the 997 then.

Non limited but restricted.

Sandy59

2,706 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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av185 said:
Lol just like all GT Porsches since the 997 then.

Non limited but restricted.
Although since then the numbers have actually crept up quite a bit have they not ??
I'm sure Porsche UK at least will maintain they're still quite limited, but I can see quite a few more people getting 'the call' this time round which is what AP said they wanted I think :

Quote - 'One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn't get one. Now we're really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We're not limited in any way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range.'

av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Sandy59 said:
av185 said:
Lol just like all GT Porsches since the 997 then.

Non limited but restricted.
Although since then the numbers have actually crept up quite a bit have they not ??
I'm sure Porsche UK at least will maintain they're still quite limited, but I can see quite a few more people getting 'the call' this time round which is what AP said they wanted I think :

Quote - 'One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn't get one. Now we're really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We're not limited in any way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range.'
I agree the numbers have crept up but as previously posted there will still only be an anticipated c200 i.e. c 33%more GT4s and c80 more Spyders compared to the 981the latter of which in 718 guide will be even more of a niche car than the 981 due to its GT chassis.

It's great that the right people supporting the brand may be able to get a car and good luck to them but to think anyone will be able to walk into a UK OPC and just order one like some are claiming is plainly ridiculous.

And to put the increased numbers thing into perspective there are 'only' around 1200 odd 458 Ferraris (Italia and Spyder) in the UK. Seen as a relatively rare car and residual pricing confirms this also much more exclusive and with a much higher price point both back then and now than a 'halo' 718.

GT4RS

4,430 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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av185 said:
Sandy59 said:
av185 said:
Lol just like all GT Porsches since the 997 then.

Non limited but restricted.
Although since then the numbers have actually crept up quite a bit have they not ??
I'm sure Porsche UK at least will maintain they're still quite limited, but I can see quite a few more people getting 'the call' this time round which is what AP said they wanted I think :

Quote - 'One thing we learned from the last GT4 is a lot of people couldn't get one. Now we're really proud enthusiasts can buy the car, rather than write letters. We're not limited in any way, we will have a longer production run than before, and we wanted to keep it in the same price range.'
I agree the numbers have crept up but as previously posted there will still only be an anticipated c200 i.e. c 33%more GT4s and c80 more Spyders compared to the 981the latter of which in 718 guide will be even more of a niche car than the 981 due to its GT chassis.

It's great that the right people supporting the brand may be able to get a car and good luck to them but to think anyone will be able to walk into a UK OPC and just order one like some are claiming is plainly ridiculous.

And to put the increased numbers thing into perspective there are 'only' around 1200 odd 458 Ferraris (Italia and Spyder) in the UK. Seen as a relatively rare car and residual pricing confirms this also much more exclusive and with a much higher price point both back then and now than a 'halo' 718.
A friend of mine who has never owned a Porsche before walked into a OPC and ordered himself a new GT4 981, he used it for a short while then sold it on. I’m not aware if he’s even bothered to buy another Porsche, so it is possible. Porsche isn’t stupid they will build as many halo cars as the market demands and they have now had time to prepare their business for this demand.

Your comment regards to the 458 is pointless as there are a number of different models which fall under that 1200 odd figure.


julian718

6,840 posts

60 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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Harking back to the original thread title, there are now 15 for sale on AutoTrader and the average price is now circa £70k. Considering the 981GTS average price is now £50k, I think the 981GT4 will certainly hit mid to low 60’s by year end.

If Brexit results in a 10% tax on new cars, then (based on a preemo 718GT4 spec being 90k), an extra £9k, make it a £100k car, and for the 981GT4 suddenly looks like a great deal.

Therefore I think the 981GT4 will hit £60k and in time start to rise again.



av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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GT4RS said:
Porsche isn’t stupid they will build as many halo cars as the market demands and they have now had time to prepare their business for this demand.
I agree Porsche are not stupid. Far from it. And the masters of marketing.

And this is exactly why they definitely WON'T build as many halo cars as the market demands as to do so would result in brand dilution which is the last thing a very successful business such as Porsche wants.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Sunday 23rd June 2019
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julian718 said:
Harking back to the original thread title, there are now 15 for sale on AutoTrader and the average price is now circa £70k. Considering the 981GTS average price is now £50k, I think the 981GT4 will certainly hit mid to low 60’s by year end.
On PH, GT4s range from £70k to £85, GTSs from £50k to £55k.

I think your quoted average prices are a little low, and given how few 718 GT4s are due this year I can't see 981 prices moving much in the immediate future.

boxsey

3,574 posts

211 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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Twinfan said:
julian718 said:
Harking back to the original thread title, there are now 15 for sale on AutoTrader and the average price is now circa £70k. Considering the 981GTS average price is now £50k, I think the 981GT4 will certainly hit mid to low 60’s by year end.
On PH, GT4s range from £70k to £85, GTSs from £50k to £55k.

I think your quoted average prices are a little low, and given how few 718 GT4s are due this year I can't see 981 prices moving much in the immediate future.
Our GT4 wannabe friend is not keen on actual statistics. There are 10 on the OPC locator today (which is what this thread was started about). That's 2 less than last month. The average price is £77,770. Down £3,427 on last month (which is easily the biggest drop over the last six months and most likely caused by 718 GT4 news). Average mileage is 10,013. The cheapest car is a 30,000 miler at South London.

freedman

5,419 posts

208 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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julian718 said:
Harking back to the original thread title, there are now 15 for sale on AutoTrader and the average price is now circa £70k. Considering the 981GTS average price is now £50k, I think the 981GT4 will certainly hit mid to low 60’s by year end.

If Brexit results in a 10% tax on new cars, then (based on a preemo 718GT4 spec being 90k), an extra £9k, make it a £100k car, and for the 981GT4 suddenly looks like a great deal.

Therefore I think the 981GT4 will hit £60k and in time start to rise again.
How do you make the average 70k, when there are no cars below that figure?

GT4RS

4,430 posts

198 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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freedman said:
julian718 said:
Harking back to the original thread title, there are now 15 for sale on AutoTrader and the average price is now circa £70k. Considering the 981GTS average price is now £50k, I think the 981GT4 will certainly hit mid to low 60’s by year end.

If Brexit results in a 10% tax on new cars, then (based on a preemo 718GT4 spec being 90k), an extra £9k, make it a £100k car, and for the 981GT4 suddenly looks like a great deal.

Therefore I think the 981GT4 will hit £60k and in time start to rise again.
How do you make the average 70k, when there are no cars below that figure?
Just by looking quickly at piston heads you can see the average asking price of a used 981 gt4 is 78k to 80k.

freedman

5,419 posts

208 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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boxsey said:
Our GT4 wannabe friend is not keen on actual statistics. There are 10 on the OPC locator today (which is what this thread was started about). That's 2 less than last month. The average price is £77,770. Down £3,427 on last month (which is easily the biggest drop over the last six months and most likely caused by 718 GT4 news). Average mileage is 10,013. The cheapest car is a 30,000 miler at South London.
I've got to take the R into South London this week, so will take a look

julian718

6,840 posts

60 months

Monday 24th June 2019
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GT4RS said:
Just by looking quickly at piston heads you can see the average asking price of a used 981 gt4 is 78k to 80k.
Because of you call them up, most are willing to cut a deal at 70k. Advertised price is what they want, not what they get. As a previous poster said the price has dropped 4K in a month. Expect them to hit 60k by year end.
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