12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

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lemmingjames

5,649 posts

149 months

Thursday 1st August
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Porsche911R said:
my latest car has Recaro Pole's in them, they are like a bespoke glove, even my GF things they are the best seat to date,

Although I did like the 996 GT3 seats, but todays size people would not fit those now, bit like the CGT seats, both are very tight but nice if you fit.

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"Something that you don't mention is that the shape of the 918 seats is broader and not as shaped as the folding seats at the top"

as you hold the wheel you are rounded off in the shoulders any way, I am wide of shoulder, but rattle about in the 918 and fit great in the GT2 Folding style and the Recaro Poles. (and a full race seat, and still less upright than a 918 !! )

I am race spec size :-) as I stated if you are a bigger guy and taller than 6FT best to spec 918 but FFS don't sit on the side bolsters when getting in/out ;-)]
The 996 Aliens are based on the Recaro Poles with just a head change. So if you can fit in Poles, youll fit in the Aliens.

If you was properly wide of shoulder, youd find that the Poles would also round your shoulders hth


Armitage.Shanks

697 posts

30 months

Thursday 1st August
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av185 said:
That Redline car would be a great buy for someone after a CS with ceramics at £80k max imo.
Agreed but then again OPC Colchester just sold one with similar spec for £81k albeit average GT4 miles, so at £80k for a non OPC car that would be somewhat of a bargain.

av185

9,117 posts

72 months

Thursday 1st August
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People will always tend to pay more for OPC cars especially GTs.

Armitage.Shanks

697 posts

30 months

Thursday 1st August
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av185 said:
People will always tend to pay more for OPC cars especially GTs.
I'd agree as the CS full spec yellow car with MS in Lincoln @£79k looks good. That said its been around for a while.

As of yesterday only 7 cars on OPC Locator. They're still selling.

Dung8

36 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd August
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anyone know this car: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/Cayman-GT4-795...

Initially I was after bucket seats, but after sitting in them soon realised they do not support my frame.

The low mileage and one owner background of this car is what attracts me, anything I should otherwise consider?

Thnx

Armitage.Shanks

697 posts

30 months

Friday 2nd August
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Dung8 said:
anyone know this car: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/Cayman-GT4-795...

Initially I was after bucket seats, but after sitting in them soon realised they do not support my frame.

The low mileage and one owner background of this car is what attracts me, anything I should otherwise consider?

Thnx
Link doesn't work for me. Which dealer is selling it?

av185

9,117 posts

72 months

Friday 2nd August
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Dung8 said:
anyone know this car: https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/Cayman-GT4-795...

Initially I was after bucket seats, but after sitting in them soon realised they do not support my frame.

The low mileage and one owner background of this car is what attracts me, anything I should otherwise consider?

Thnx
Nice mileage and 1 owner late 15 65 plate car.

Spec is fair biggest issue in terms of value is lack of buckets and no extended leather with placcy dash and door tops. Absence of sport chrono and climate are other minor issues.

Strange decision to spec carbon and light upgrade but no leather.

There are a limited number of GT4s around with the older p3 folding buckets which suit some better than the newer p11 Spyder buckets. Maybe try these seats as they are less vertical and have more width at the shoulders than the fixed.

Irrespective of the cars mileage and 1 owner it does look expensive atm bearing in mind the spec.

Dung8

36 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd August
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Armitage.Shanks said:
Link doesn't work for me. Which dealer is selling it?
Porsche centre leeds.

Mileage
2,016 mi

Registration date
10/2015

Model year
2016

Armitage.Shanks

697 posts

30 months

Friday 2nd August
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I've seen that car in the showroom and it's mint. Outside of buckets the 18 way seats are THE best seats comfort and adjustable option Porsche produce. I always thought the leather dash as a 'must have' but having seen that car and the interior it actually doesn't phase me as it doesn't look bad at all.

notsomadmick

125 posts

105 months

Monday 5th August
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Armitage.Shanks said:
I've seen that car in the showroom and it's mint. Outside of buckets the 18 way seats are THE best seats comfort and adjustable option Porsche produce. I always thought the leather dash as a 'must have' but having seen that car and the interior it actually doesn't phase me as it doesn't look bad at all.
In case this is useful to anyone? Since you guys are talking seats, I just posted this on the Spyder forum:

So went to my OPC and actually spent time testing 18 ways, folding buckets & 918 buckets. To be honest it depends on what matters most to you.

They all have strengths and weaknesses.
The 918 buckets look the best. But I am 6 feet tall and 11 stone 7, (40-inch chest) - so find my torso slops around a 'little' from side to side when pressing on. Also, the seat pan is slightly too short to support the back of my legs. And the seating position is very upright - which doesn't bother me, but will bother some people. Also, when set to their lowest position, the 918s go nice and low. The 918s are not heated - but that is a detail.

The folding buckets are a little bit more comfortable and less upright, and can be heated - BUT you can't lower them - and that (for me) is a big downside. Usefully, they can be folded if you need rear access - good in a GT3 w/o cage, but irrelevant in a Spyder. (Might be a good option if you are not too tall.)

18-ways: Many on this forum will give them a 'so so' press - but set up properly they are a damn good seat. They actually go slightly lower than even the 918s - which for me is a preference. I can get the back-rest in the perfect spot for the mood I am in (i.e. cruising or pressing on.) The seat pan can be extended to suit longer or shorter-legged people. Then when you crank the torso bolsters tight - I didn't slop side to side at all.
The leg bolsters are not as snug as the buckets - but not a million miles off when fully tightened. Finally, they can be folded and can be heated if it matters.

Eventually, I went with the 18-ways, because they were just more versatile.
You may find it could limit resale - but I bought the car for ME - not the next owner.

Armitage.Shanks

697 posts

30 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Good perspective on seats in this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Porsche911R

17,286 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Armitage.Shanks said:
Good perspective on seats in this thread:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
out dated thread as no one knew what the downsides of the 918 were then ! me inc.

now you could say 30 % people like each seat so it's a moot subject, all we can do is offer the plus and negatives on each and then people choose.

many on PH choose resale and looks, and admit it, so its very hard to say what is the right seat.

jcosh

895 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th August
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notsomadmick said:
In case this is useful to anyone? Since you guys are talking seats, I just posted this on the Spyder forum:

So went to my OPC and actually spent time testing 18 ways, folding buckets & 918 buckets. To be honest it depends on what matters most to you.

They all have strengths and weaknesses.
The 918 buckets look the best. But I am 6 feet tall and 11 stone 7, (40-inch chest) - so find my torso slops around a 'little' from side to side when pressing on. Also, the seat pan is slightly too short to support the back of my legs. And the seating position is very upright - which doesn't bother me, but will bother some people. Also, when set to their lowest position, the 918s go nice and low. The 918s are not heated - but that is a detail.

The folding buckets are a little bit more comfortable and less upright, and can be heated - BUT you can't lower them - and that (for me) is a big downside. Usefully, they can be folded if you need rear access - good in a GT3 w/o cage, but irrelevant in a Spyder. (Might be a good option if you are not too tall.)

18-ways: Many on this forum will give them a 'so so' press - but set up properly they are a damn good seat. They actually go slightly lower than even the 918s - which for me is a preference. I can get the back-rest in the perfect spot for the mood I am in (i.e. cruising or pressing on.) The seat pan can be extended to suit longer or shorter-legged people. Then when you crank the torso bolsters tight - I didn't slop side to side at all.
The leg bolsters are not as snug as the buckets - but not a million miles off when fully tightened. Finally, they can be folded and can be heated if it matters.

Eventually, I went with the 18-ways, because they were just more versatile.
You may find it could limit resale - but I bought the car for ME - not the next owner.
Sensible man. The 18 way are of course the most versatile for most people. But the forums seem to think you have to have buckets. Not in the real world you don't.

diffstar

199 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th August
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jcosh said:
Sensible man. The 18 way are of course the most versatile for most people. But the forums seem to think you have to have buckets. Not in the real world you don't.
I have had 918 style buckets and Sport Plus (or 18 ways).

I am 6" 1" average build.

I find the 918 bucket blooming marvelous in just about every way and look the nuts. They are not quite as comfy as sport plus seats on longer runs but not by a lot.

But............... And this for me is a big but. Getting in and out of them is a pain in the ass. Especially when you in a car park and can't open door fully. So much so I sadly don't think I would get them again.

Porsche911R

17,286 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th August
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all 4 of my cars have buckets seats.

I hate normal seats, they feel like you have no connection to the car and ofcourse buckets are softer to sit on FACT.

the issue why many people hate buckets today is the 918 style are st !

jcosh

895 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th August
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diffstar said:
jcosh said:
Sensible man. The 18 way are of course the most versatile for most people. But the forums seem to think you have to have buckets. Not in the real world you don't.
I have had 918 style buckets and Sport Plus (or 18 ways).

I am 6" 1" average build.

I find the 918 bucket blooming marvelous in just about every way and look the nuts. They are not quite as comfy as sport plus seats on longer runs but not by a lot.

But............... And this for me is a big but. Getting in and out of them is a pain in the ass. Especially when you in a car park and can't open door fully. So much so I sadly don't think I would get them again.
That is the main problem with the 918 seats (so long as you can put up with the their upright position - I can't) is getting in and out of them. It's a PITA, as you say. Not for me. I've been looking at maybe changing my GT4 for a Gt3 but will only consider cars with 18 ways. Each to their own and all the good stuff.

jcosh

895 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Porsche911R said:
all 4 of my cars have buckets seats.

I hate normal seats, they feel like you have no connection to the car and ofcourse buckets are softer to sit on FACT.

the issue why many people hate buckets today is the 918 style are st !
Does it ever to occur to you that your opinions are not fact and that actually some people don't think the 918's are 'st'. Each to their own chap. I hate all buckets but accept that others like them, just you like one type of bucket does not mean the other types are not preferred by others.

av185

9,117 posts

72 months

Tuesday 6th August
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Depends what you use the car for.

Comforts are imo more uncomfortable as you sit on them rather than in them. More disconnected to the car and with a Porsche GT that makes a big big difference.

I find the Spyder P11 buckets best overall and they look the business especially with the carbon matching the carbon interior if that is specced. These look way more contemporary than the rather dated looking P3 folding buckets which are nevertheless a good seat depending on your build. Other problem with these older folding buckets is they are fixed height and you sit too high again depending on your overall stature.

Cars with the newer Spyder buckets tend to make a slight premium ££ but there are fewer GT4s around with the folding buckets.

Edited by av185 on Tuesday 6th August 15:47

jcosh

895 posts

177 months

Tuesday 6th August
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And back on subject.

Just 6 cars on the OPC locator currently. With a price spread of £10K from £72K - £82K. Interestingly, the most expensive car has the 18 way seats and over 10k miles.

Porsche911R

17,286 posts

210 months

Tuesday 6th August
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jcosh said:
Does it ever to occur to you that your opinions are not fact and that actually some people don't think the 918's are 'st'. Each to their own chap. I hate all buckets but accept that others like them, just you like one type of bucket does not mean the other types are not preferred by others.
buckets are softer to sit on, that's just a fact ;-) nothing to do with opinion...

you have about 5" foam to sit on, my other half fell sleep In the poles Saturday and the cars full asbo.

Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 6th August 16:12