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julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Friday 26th August 2022
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Nurburgsingh said:
Fairly priced…Really?

The black on on CC last week had lower miles and it took two goes at selling at £43.
Obvs the dealer took a detour through “strawberry fields” before arriving at the £58k price.

But comparing it to the ruby one at cridfords - that was £39k, the manual black one in Cardiff is £10k cheaper..

Whilst the colour is nice, it doesn’t have PSE or cruise.

In my mind £48 is OPC money and you’re not getting an OPC experience.

Is cruise a sought after option on an R? not judging, just curious.
It is on the pricey side, i hear you,,,,, but if one is really wanting blue and PDK then it could be ages before another comes up. I can't be sure but i think there are only about 5 blue ones in the country. For starters only one blue R was at the anniversary meet...who knows it might be that one.

https://www.caymanoc.com/forums/topic/2273-10-year...










Nurburgsingh

5,122 posts

239 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
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I just think if you’re asking OPC money then my expectation is the car is well optioned, has unquestionable up to date service.

Cruise seems to be a curious option. Firstly I don’t k ow why it isn’t standard, even in the current models you have to add it which is just insane on 100k cars. As for whether it’s needed on an R - I get that the purpose of an R is to B road and track it, but you have to get to a B road or track.
My Spyder has it my RS doesn’t - taking the RS to Scotland is a pain in the ass, I want to get up there ASAP so I’ve got to use the motorway. Being sat on the motorway for 3 or 4 hours without cruise is just uncomfortable.

Maybe I’m just getting old…

Vincent-Vega

231 posts

24 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
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Nurburgsingh said:
Fairly priced…Really?

The black on on CC last week had lower miles and it took two goes at selling at £43.
Obvs the dealer took a detour through “strawberry fields” before arriving at the £58k price.

But comparing it to the ruby one at cridfords - that was £39k, the manual black one in Cardiff is £10k cheaper..

Whilst the colour is nice, it doesn’t have PSE or cruise.

In my mind £48 is OPC money and you’re not getting an OPC experience.

What is this OPC experience that you speak of?

Do you mean getting looked down on by a jumped up salesman who is used to thinking he is doing customers a favour by selling them a car, a cup of coffee and a pretty bird on reception, oh and a two year warranty that can be put on any car subject to a 111 point look over by the trainee mechanic.

I really don't get this willingness to pay top dollar from an OPC but the same car privately is somehow worth 10k less.

Buy the car not the stealer.

Da Original Whyayedee

408 posts

22 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
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I would have gone and got the Cardiff car if it wasn’t black, I’m shocked it’s not been snapped up yet

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
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Da Original Whyayedee said:
I would have gone and got the Cardiff car if it wasn’t black, I’m shocked it’s not been snapped up yet
I am very surprised too by that....but more so that the Meteor one hasn't sold.

Nurburgsingh

5,122 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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julian987R said:
I am very surprised too by that....but more so that the Meteor one hasn't sold.
Has anyone been to see that?


Nurburgsingh

5,122 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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Vincent-Vega said:
What is this OPC experience that you speak of?

Do you mean getting looked down on by a jumped up salesman who is used to thinking he is doing customers a favour by selling them a car, a cup of coffee and a pretty bird on reception, oh and a two year warranty that can be put on any car subject to a 111 point look over by the trainee mechanic.

I really don't get this willingness to pay top dollar from an OPC but the same car privately is somehow worth 10k less.

Buy the car not the stealer.
I guess peoples experiences and expectations are different. I get on quite well with my OPC.

If that car doesn’t have N rated tyres and a crap Porsche battery then you’re into £1500 before you spend £2500 on getting a warranty. So there’s £4K off the price.
Some people will want finance or need to PX - all of this comes at a cost, which needs to be reflected in the price.

If you’re also buying new cars from an OPC then any sales go to goodwill with the dealer. Discounts on parts and servicing…

None of which you get with a private sale. It was always expected that a private sale was cheaper than a dealer sale. Isn’t that why you had 3 prices in the blue book - Trade / private / retail.



julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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Nurburgsingh said:
julian987R said:
I am very surprised too by that....but more so that the Meteor one hasn't sold.
Has anyone been to see that?
I thought you had your eye on it?

Nurburgsingh

5,122 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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julian987R said:
I thought you had your eye on it?
I’ve had bad experiences with the seller.. so… I’m not really going out of my way to look at it. If I’m up that way I might pop in but otherwise.

It does look nice though

PaulD86

1,668 posts

127 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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ajondyh said:
julian987R said:
Seems they were in Dundee by the looks of it and miles from anywhere so went with the nearest local option. Convenient at the time but probably hampered their sale price to Ashgoods (if thats how they came to get it).

I can't see it reaching more than £35K.



I think that's pushing it tbh. It has got a lot of nasties on it. All probably fixable but take time and money. Also looks like front PU has either been replaced or repainted if you look at the front splitters underside condition compared to rest of PU. It looks new to me with the old splitters fitted to it. To be fair the photo's seem to give a very honest portrayal though, my guess would be circa £30k and unsold.
This might answer some questions on that car.


julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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PaulD86 said:
This might answer some questions on that car.

Oh that one! I always felt the quality of pics in its original advert did it zero favours. Maybe why the pics were from so far away, one I recall was from a street away!
It is inching towards £30K on CC

Klippie

3,165 posts

146 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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Vincent-Vega said:
I really don't get this willingness to pay top dollar from an OPC but the same car privately is somehow worth 10k less.
I'am with you 100% on this, I bought my Cayman S private and have been very happy with it, I wasn't just going to buy the car I wanted to see and speak to the owner to get a feel of how the car has been looked after, to me this was very important...you do not get this from an OPC all they are there to do is sell you a car and will generally say anything to do so, they buy cars for stock give them a quick polish and a set of tyres and its up for sale, the poor punter that walks in has zero idea where that car came from or how its been looked after.

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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julian987R said:
PaulD86 said:
This might answer some questions on that car.

Oh that one! I always felt the quality of pics in its original advert did it zero favours. Maybe why the pics were from so far away, one I recall was from a street away!
It is inching towards £30K on CC
It sold, inc fees, £30,210


BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Saw two Cayman R at Anglesey yesterday.

White one seemed to have Girodisc or some sort.

ajondyh

681 posts

125 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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julian987R said:
julian987R said:
PaulD86 said:
This might answer some questions on that car.

Oh that one! I always felt the quality of pics in its original advert did it zero favours. Maybe why the pics were from so far away, one I recall was from a street away!
It is inching towards £30K on CC
It sold, inc fees, £30,210
I did say circa £30k but I also said I didn't think it would sell, as sellers tend to over value their cars. I think that was a fair price.

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Admittedly not an R, but just spied another yellow S

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/porsche-caym...






ajondyh

681 posts

125 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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julian987R said:
Admittedly not an R, but just spied another yellow S

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/porsche-caym...
How much??? laugh

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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ajondyh said:
julian987R said:
Admittedly not an R, but just spied another yellow S

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/porsche-caym...
How much??? laugh
£37K thereabouts. But could be a very special S. Shame the pics aren't that detailed.

DavP

2 posts

148 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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julian987R said:
£37K thereabouts. But could be a very special S. Shame the pics aren't that detailed.
If you are bringing the car out of Ireland you can reclaim some of the original 'vehicle registration tax' paid. There is an online calculator but anything semi 'exotic' is not listed so the calculations are a bit of a lottery. I'd estimate the Irish tax man would give you between €5 or 6K back once it is registered in the UK.

julian987R

6,840 posts

60 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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DavP said:
julian987R said:
£37K thereabouts. But could be a very special S. Shame the pics aren't that detailed.
If you are bringing the car out of Ireland you can reclaim some of the original 'vehicle registration tax' paid. There is an online calculator but anything semi 'exotic' is not listed so the calculations are a bit of a lottery. I'd estimate the Irish tax man would give you between €5 or 6K back once it is registered in the UK.
That is amazing. That makes it all the more of a deal.