Cayman R Chat

[celica88]

GT03 said:

julian987R said:

Andyoz said:

julian987R said:

Looks like the white R that had missed a service during peak Covid, circa £38K, has sold. Anyone here?

it was last seen at £36,500 so I expect someone got it for say £35k which was a good move IMO.

yep someone did well there.

I bought this car. The missed service over Covid didn’t put me off - it had barely moved in that time period. Rev range readings showed that it had only spent 0.6 seconds at the rev limiter since new, so it's a very gently driven car! It had also just had a major service at OPC Silverstone, including new N-rated tyres and front discs/pads.

While mechanically sound, it did need some cosmetic TLC. I’ve done a paint correction, restored all the plastics/rubbers, exhaust tips and backbox clean, wheel arch repaint (stone chips), wheel clean and wax, and new centre caps. It’s looking a little better than when I bought it.



I took it to Center Gravity last weekend - everything was original underneath and showed little wear for 50k miles. The front bump stops and rear track control arms had a couple of years left, so I opted to replace those. We went for a geo which aimed for maximum grip from the standard Michelin PS2 tyres, with a neutral balance. Chris also tightened up some exhaust heat shields, which cured a rattle I had previously tried and failed to track down.



It feels far tighter and handles amazingly now, I didn’t want to stop driving it on the way home. Center Gravity offer so much bang for your buck - I can't think of anything else for £1k that would improve the car as much.

Still on the list is brakes (GT3 master cylinder, decent pads and fluid), paintwork (front bumper and arches respray, PPF), and interior (steering wheel, gear knob and handbrake retrim, fitment of cruise control and Apple CarPlay).

Awesome
Great to hear as it kept coming up in my searches but just wasn’t in position to as enjoying the Evora NA

Maybe one day 😉

[celica88]

julian987R said:

A lot of (ca)R for the money...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209059...

£29.9k for a R
Think it’s sold as not in my AT searches

[julian987R]

celica88 said:

£29.9k for a R
Think it’s sold as not in my AT searches

Its on their website

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...

..but yep could have sold.

New one in-bound
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208239...

Been a while since there were a double digit of R's for sale.

[BillyB]

Same with other marques and models. It’s a buyers’ market now

[leemanning]

GT03 said:

I bought this car. The missed service over Covid didn’t put me off - it had barely moved in that time period. Rev range readings showed that it had only spent 0.6 seconds at the rev limiter since new, so it's a very gently driven car! It had also just had a major service at OPC Silverstone, including new N-rated tyres and front discs/pads.

While mechanically sound, it did need some cosmetic TLC. I’ve done a paint correction, restored all the plastics/rubbers, exhaust tips and backbox clean, wheel arch repaint (stone chips), wheel clean and wax, and new centre caps. It’s looking a little better than when I bought it.

I took it to Center Gravity last weekend - everything was original underneath and showed little wear for 50k miles. The front bump stops and rear track control arms had a couple of years left, so I opted to replace those. We went for a geo which aimed for maximum grip from the standard Michelin PS2 tyres, with a neutral balance. Chris also tightened up some exhaust heat shields, which cured a rattle I had previously tried and failed to track down.

It feels far tighter and handles amazingly now, I didn’t want to stop driving it on the way home. Center Gravity offer so much bang for your buck - I can't think of anything else for £1k that would improve the car as much.

Still on the list is brakes (GT3 master cylinder, decent pads and fluid), paintwork (front bumper and arches respray, PPF), and interior (steering wheel, gear knob and handbrake retrim, fitment of cruise control and Apple CarPlay).

GT03 - Can I ask if you, or anyone else for that matter, knows how adjustable the chassis setup is on the R? Do you know what Center Gravity did to the car?

[ATM]

leemanning said:

GT03 - Can I ask if you, or anyone else for that matter, knows how adjustable the chassis setup is on the R?

It's just standard Cayman / Boxster underneath. So adjustment is for Toe, Camber and Castor with limits. Cant adjust ride height or Corner Balance as fixed Dampers with fixed ride height.

Edited by ATM on Tuesday 13th September 10:57

[WayOutWest]

julian987R said:

Its on their website

https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Porsche-...

..but yep could have sold.

Service history :

29/10/2012, 19,967 Miles, Porsche Main Dealer ,
16/09/2013, 42,837 Miles, Porsche Main Dealer ,
12/08/2014, 61,011 Miles, Porsche Main Dealer ,

That's a lot of miles early on.

[bigmowley]

ATM said:

It's just standard Cayman / Boxster underneath. So adjustment is for Toe, Camber and Castor with limits. Cant adjust ride height or Corner Balance as fixed Dampers with fixed ride height.

Just one point to add. Wheel spacers with longer fixings to adjust the track. Makes a big difference on the front, less so on the rear in my experience.

[frayz]

bigmowley said:

Just one point to add. Wheel spacers with longer fixings to adjust the track. Makes a big difference on the front, less so on the rear in my experience.

It makes such a difference on the front as by widening the front track, you're effectively creating a greater leverage of the lower arm against the damper and gives the impression of softening the front axle. This is like adding a stiffer rear anti roll bar and gives a similar effect at allowing the rear to rotate easier.
This is why people comment on greater turn in and front end bite with a slight increase in front track.

[AAAndy]

frayz said:

bigmowley said:

Just one point to add. Wheel spacers with longer fixings to adjust the track. Makes a big difference on the front, less so on the rear in my experience.

It makes such a difference on the front as by widening the front track, you're effectively creating a greater leverage of the lower arm against the damper and gives the impression of softening the front axle. This is like adding a stiffer rear anti roll bar and gives a similar effect at allowing the rear to rotate easier.
This is why people comment on greater turn in and front end bite with a slight increase in front track.

This is really interesting and sounds like a relatively inexpensive modification for a tangible benefit (if you are after a sharper turn in). Is it just 5mm spacers on the required onthe front, plus some longer bolts? Would it also require a new geo set up to take advantage of the change, or is it just plug n play?

[bigmowley]

AAAndy said:

frayz said:

bigmowley said:

Just one point to add. Wheel spacers with longer fixings to adjust the track. Makes a big difference on the front, less so on the rear in my experience.

It makes such a difference on the front as by widening the front track, you're effectively creating a greater leverage of the lower arm against the damper and gives the impression of softening the front axle. This is like adding a stiffer rear anti roll bar and gives a similar effect at allowing the rear to rotate easier.
This is why people comment on greater turn in and front end bite with a slight increase in front track.

This is really interesting and sounds like a relatively inexpensive modification for a tangible benefit (if you are after a sharper turn in). Is it just 5mm spacers on the required onthe front, plus some longer bolts? Would it also require a new geo set up to take advantage of the change, or is it just plug n play?

Plug and play there is no effect on the geometry from fitting spacers. I have 5MM but I think some people go even bigger. A word of warning even 5MM spacers need longer fixings.

[ATM]

bigmowley said:

Plug and play there is no effect on the geometry from fitting spacers. I have 5MM but I think some people go even bigger. A word of warning even 5MM spacers need longer fixings.

I've added 15mm on the front of my 996. Some of the wider kits require you to bolt the spacer to the hub and then bolt the wheel to the spacer. Just browse eBay and you'll see what I mean. So these wider kits use the standard bolts for wheel to spacer and come with a second set for spacer to hub. I definitely noticed a change in steering feel adding 15mm. There was more load or weight added to the steering and this removed some of the chitter chatter previously felt.

[frayz]

Personally id not go too wide adding spacers as you'll ruin the scrub radius and start promoting understeer. However, 5mm, even 10mm with some longer hardware wouldn't be detrimental.

[IanB_76]

I have finally bitten the bullet and booked my R in with Centre Gravity for a full geo. They will be replacing the rear coffin arms too (hopefully nothing else) as I was told the bushes were on their way out during my last service.

I managed to find some for £96 per corner from Porsche Heritage Parts, as the OPC quoted over £300 each.

I have also ordered some 7mm spacers, longer wheel bolts and also longer locking wheel-nuts.

As other people have said before, they have quite a waiting list so I'm not booked in until the end of October, which will sadly be past the end of the summer, but I'm still excited at feeling the difference.

I will also be putting my black set of wheels with 4S' back on, as I'm not sure Cup2s are particularly suitable for an English Autumn.

Looking forward to feeling the transformation

[ajondyh]

IanB_76 said:

I have finally bitten the bullet and booked my R in with Centre Gravity for a full geo. They will be replacing the rear coffin arms too (hopefully nothing else) as I was told the bushes were on their way out during my last service.

I managed to find some for £96 per corner from Porsche Heritage Parts, as the OPC quoted over £300 each.

I have also ordered some 7mm spacers, longer wheel bolts and also longer locking wheel-nuts.

As other people have said before, they have quite a waiting list so I'm not booked in until the end of October, which will sadly be past the end of the summer, but I'm still excited at feeling the difference.

I will also be putting my black set of wheels with 4S' back on, as I'm not sure Cup2s are particularly suitable for an English Autumn.

Looking forward to feeling the transformation

Be prepared for the bottom arm bolts to be seized as well Chris spent a few hours removing mine. I have both my cars done there and when I had the R done I could feel how much better it was at the 1st roundabout on the way home.

[IanB_76]

ajondyh said:

Be prepared for the bottom arm bolts to be seized as well Chris spent a few hours removing mine. I have both my cars done there and when I had the R done I could feel how much better it was at the 1st roundabout on the way home.

Thanks for the heads-up! I'm fully expecting there to be some issues with seized bolts, especially considering all the stories on how poor the corrosion protection is on most of the underbody fittings!

[frayz]

IanB_76 said:

Thanks for the heads-up! I'm fully expecting there to be some issues with seized bolts, especially considering all the stories on how poor the corrosion protection is on most of the underbody fittings!

Porsche hardware in general is absolute ste. Real disappointment when compared to the hardware on even my 150k mile Renault.

[julian987R]

This one got re-listed again

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202209149...

Something is up with their listing as it never shows up in the filtered results and only comes around in a blue moon when they re-list it.

[julian987R]

Its that Cat D panel gap one again!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155162595166?hash=item2...

[Spenno]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202208108...

Bought on CC for £43k, listed the next day on AT for £59,980 and already down by £5k. Seriously optimistic. Still has 9 year old tyres and a missing service - no mention of that though.