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Out of all the differences the R gained, I’d say the dampers and springs were the significant game-changers, everything else was merely “garnish” to justify the “R” moniker (pun intended) 
Anyone that’s done a deep dive into the original 911R’s built by the factory in the 60’s will know it was VERY special car indeed, and Porsche using it on the Cayman was a very cynical marketing ploy indeed.
Anyone that’s done a deep dive into the original 911R’s built by the factory in the 60’s will know it was VERY special car indeed, and Porsche using it on the Cayman was a very cynical marketing ploy indeed.
Nurburgsingh said:
Escy said:
Can you name the other significant enhancements?
R has the GT3 doors so they are lighter, the steering rack is different too - I think thats probably the one that provides the greatest 'feels different' elementThere lots of aesthetic things though that all add up.
Edited by Andyoz on Tuesday 20th September 13:12
From EVO's review - standard upgrades in bold...
Great cars, want one, bought a bigger house instead...
EVO said:
The R is 55kg lighter than an S. How? Slimline 19-inch wheels (from the Boxster Spyder), light aluminium door skins (a la 911 turbo), lighter sports bucket seats and 15kg is saved from the removal of the hi-fi and air-con though some opted to add them back at zero cost.
An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
I thought the doors were from the GT3, not the turbo? Seems not...An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
Great cars, want one, bought a bigger house instead...
Jim1556 said:
From EVO's review - standard upgrades in bold...
I thought the doors were from the GT3, not the turbo? Seems not...EVO said:
The R is 55kg lighter than an S. How? Slimline 19-inch wheels (from the Boxster Spyder), light aluminium door skins (a la 911 turbo), lighter sports bucket seats and 15kg is saved from the removal of the hi-fi and air-con though some opted to add them back at zero cost.
An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
Great cars, want one, bought a bigger house instead... An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
Potentially thelighter weight doors are the same on turbo and GT3, but the R had the door cards from the GT3 without the pockets.
In addition to the above the believe that the ARB's are also different.
Does anyone know if the traction control programme in sports plus is any different? Was there any reduction in sound deadening?
And for some of us, on top of the driving experience the Peridot Green colour option really makes it stand out visually.
AAAndy said:
Jim1556 said:
From EVO's review - standard upgrades in bold...
I thought the doors were from the GT3, not the turbo? Seems not...EVO said:
The R is 55kg lighter than an S. How? Slimline 19-inch wheels (from the Boxster Spyder), light aluminium door skins (a la 911 turbo), lighter sports bucket seats and 15kg is saved from the removal of the hi-fi and air-con though some opted to add them back at zero cost.
An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
Great cars, want one, bought a bigger house instead... An extra 9bhp has been liberated from the 3.4-litre six-cylinder engine thanks to a new exhaust manifold and ECU program. Maximum power is now rated at 325bhp at 7400rpm and a LSD is standard.
Porsche's PASM is not fitted and the car is 20mm lower than the Cayman S thanks to shorter and stiffer springs.
A fixed rear spoiler (reducing lift by 40%) and a revised front splitter (-15% lift) is fitted, and of course the all-important PORSCHE lettering on the side that knocks a second (at least) off the 0-60mph time...
Potentially thelighter weight doors are the same on turbo and GT3, but the R had the door cards from the GT3 without the pockets.
In addition to the above the believe that the ARB's are also different.
Does anyone know if the traction control programme in sports plus is any different? Was there any reduction in sound deadening?
And for some of us, on top of the driving experience the Peridot Green colour option really makes it stand out visually.
AndyP74 said:
Much as I hate writing these words, it's the right thing to do. I'm selling my Cayman R due to time being swallowed up by children and a job that requires a large chunk of travel.
It's Peridot, manual, sports exhaust, sport chrono, carbon buckets, full OPC service history (the last one in June of this year), just under 14k miles, black wheels.
Anyone on here interested before I start advertising in the usual places?
Did you sell it as user B21ONY on this thread is looking for what you have for sale..It's Peridot, manual, sports exhaust, sport chrono, carbon buckets, full OPC service history (the last one in June of this year), just under 14k miles, black wheels.
Anyone on here interested before I start advertising in the usual places?
Edited by AndyP74 on Saturday 3rd September 20:41
https://www.caymanoc.com/forums/topic/2742-tidy-98...
Good source here, table below:
| Item | S Option | Change |
|---|---|---|
| Front and rear aerokit | Option | |
| Limited slip differential | Option | |
| Performance exhaust & ECU | R only | +10bhp |
| Retuned springs/dampers/ARBs | R only | -20mm |
| Aluminum doors and lightweight door panels | R only | -15kg |
| Air conditioning delete | R only | -12kg |
| Carbon fibre bucket seats | Option | -12kg |
| 'Other' weight savings | R only | -7kg |
| 19" lightweight forged BBS wheels | R only | -5kg |
| Radio and speakers delete | R only | -3kg |
| Removal of storage compartments | R only | -1kg |
So now to the question, what would it cost to add these things to an 987 Gen2 S ??
The R was a special car ... but agreed Slippy not the 650Kg ? lightweight of the 911R ...
It's interesting that the first GT3RSR was called the GT3R in 1999 ... until 2004 when it went sequential gearbox and then with the logical RSR nomenclature.
The R / Clubsport / RS / RSR / Touring / Lightweight / GT / GTS / NGT ? ..... ? market segmentations have always been blurred ....
The R was a special car ... but agreed Slippy not the 650Kg ? lightweight of the 911R ...
It's interesting that the first GT3RSR was called the GT3R in 1999 ... until 2004 when it went sequential gearbox and then with the logical RSR nomenclature.
The R / Clubsport / RS / RSR / Touring / Lightweight / GT / GTS / NGT ? ..... ? market segmentations have always been blurred ....
Edited by ChrisW. on Wednesday 21st September 08:32
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