Cayman R Chat

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frayz

2,629 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th December 2022
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swanny71 said:
Have a guess what I’ve been up to….



I’ve carefully removed (hacked out) dozens, maybe hundreds of corroded fasteners on ships over the years but these were some of the worst/most awkward I’ve ever done.

Pic shows all that remains of 6 pressed in studs and matching nuts - the rest rusted away over the past decade or is now metal dust on my garage floor.

Whoever signed off on this design needs a kick in the balls and I understand why OPC’s & independents charge so much to do the job.
Lol I remember those buggers well. I replaced mine with titanium fasteners as I can’t be arsed with doing it again.
Good job well done though dude. smile

My car decided to throw its toys out today as even though it lives on a Ctek, I think the battery is past its best and the recent cold snap has killed it off.

Trying to find a way to justify the £700 for an 8kg LiFe04 vs £110 for another Bosch lead acid. Hahah

Edmundo2

1,345 posts

210 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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Jellyfishfields

251 posts

220 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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GT03 said:
Question, was TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring) standard on the Cayman R, or a cost option?

I can't find a way to view tyre pressures.
It was an option, I have it on my S. Option code 482.

swanny71

2,859 posts

209 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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Jellyfishfields said:
GT03 said:
Question, was TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring) standard on the Cayman R, or a cost option?

I can't find a way to view tyre pressures.
It was an option, I have it on my S. Option code 482.
I’ve got a copy of the UK sales brochure/options sheet - can’t see TPMS listed for the R.

freedman

5,419 posts

207 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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swanny71 said:
I’ve got a copy of the UK sales brochure/options sheet - can’t see TPMS listed for the R.
Was definitely an option

https://www.porscheteesside.co.uk/approved-pre-own...


Jellyfishfields

251 posts

220 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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swanny71 said:
Jellyfishfields said:
GT03 said:
Question, was TPMS (tyre pressure monitoring) standard on the Cayman R, or a cost option?

I can't find a way to view tyre pressures.
It was an option, I have it on my S. Option code 482.
I’ve got a copy of the UK sales brochure/options sheet - can’t see TPMS listed for the R.
freedman said:
It's listed here, page 41.
https://porschecarshistory.com/wp-content/old/broc...

swanny71

2,859 posts

209 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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I must have an older copy/version of the brochure




jmcc42uk

110 posts

180 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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Evening chaps

What do we think about prices in the coming year? Look to be softening up quite a bit as there are a few good cars under £40k now.

Does anyone know how much a good PPI with rev check costs these days?

tighnamara

2,189 posts

153 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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jmcc42uk said:
Evening chaps

What do we think about prices in the coming year? Look to be softening up quite a bit as there are a few good cars under £40k now.

Does anyone know how much a good PPI with rev check costs these days?
Evening, think the whole car values will be up in the air this coming year, bit of an unknown really.

Not sure there has been any “softening up quite a bit” yet, possibly will in the next 6 / 12 months.

The ones under £40k have always been there or there about and mileage / spec dependant.

Not many manuals for sale at the moment seems to be more PDK, depending what you are looking for.

Can’t really comment on the PPI / rev check cost but I’m sure a Porsche independent inspector quote could be had to give you an idea.

Enjoy your searching ……

Edited by tighnamara on Friday 30th December 20:26

julian987R

6,840 posts

59 months

Friday 30th December 2022
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jmcc42uk said:
Evening chaps

What do we think about prices in the coming year? Look to be softening up quite a bit as there are a few good cars under £40k now.

Does anyone know how much a good PPI with rev check costs these days?
There will always be ones around £40K. They are only softening in Q4 due to time of year.
In 2022 we have seen R's in the £50K's . That price bracket for high spec low miles seems a common benchmark now. With classic status being given next year to the 987 (and hopefully the PCCM+ Gen 2 update) there will be a wave of buzz about the R again and that bar will rise to late £50s/£60K+ in 2023.



AndyP74

18 posts

69 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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jmcc42uk said:
Evening chaps

What do we think about prices in the coming year? Look to be softening up quite a bit as there are a few good cars under £40k now.

Does anyone know how much a good PPI with rev check costs these days?
Can't comment on the PPI but I had a rev check done by Porsche Stockport in September for around £90

ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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julian987R said:
jmcc42uk said:
Evening chaps

What do we think about prices in the coming year? Look to be softening up quite a bit as there are a few good cars under £40k now.

Does anyone know how much a good PPI with rev check costs these days?
There will always be ones around £40K. They are only softening in Q4 due to time of year.
In 2022 we have seen R's in the £50K's . That price bracket for high spec low miles seems a common benchmark now. With classic status being given next year to the 987 (and hopefully the PCCM+ Gen 2 update) there will be a wave of buzz about the R again and that bar will rise to late £50s/£60K+ in 2023.
My view on the car market in general is that all prices are now or will start to and will increase to drop in value. This because interest rates are rising so finance costs are increasing. So just simple car finance or HP will getprr expensive.

Also the supply shocks after Covid are gone now and the sugar rush of people rushing round looking for toys is over.

The whole financial system got a bit out of whack with people and small business owners getting all manner of bail outs and government hand outs. Some decided to spend this money on cars and this pushed up prices more. This is all behind us now.

Finally we all know there is a cost of living crisis. How anyone can think car prices will continue to rise during a cost of living crisis feels like madness to Me.

So I think prices are trending down now and it will continue for a while. If things get bad we will see house prices dropping too. Everyone with a cheap fixed mortgage deal now will need to remortgage at a much higher rate. Then as values come down this will affect LTV and this will push up rates as the deals will be worse for higher LTV. In an environment like that car prices will definitely come down.

Most people who own expensive property and expensive cars will refuse to accept this and they will tell you the gravy train will keep on trucking.

jmcc42uk

110 posts

180 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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Thanks for reply chaps...

Yeah....I think we're in for a good old drop so should be a few bargains to come. We'll see the £30-40k bracket for the CR with £40k for the exceptional low mile cars and then the more average higher mile cars probably sub £30k.

That is in fact where they should be as prices have been artificially high for a while now.

In reality though, who really cares? If you want a car just buy and enjoy!

Escy

3,940 posts

149 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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jmcc42uk said:
In reality though, who really cares?
Julian, it's all he talks about.

jmcc42uk

110 posts

180 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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Yeah...but there are so few inherent faults with the CR we need something to chat about !





Edited by jmcc42uk on Saturday 31st December 14:17

jmcc42uk

110 posts

180 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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The other thing which I'm sure has been mentioned a few times before is this.

Cayman R vs 981 GTS.

As far as I can see the R is sharper on steering and road feel where as the GTS could be more of a GT car. However work in the x73 and a geo on the GTS and it might bring back some feel.

The Steve Sutcliffe Autocar review really turned me on to the GTS but it's a hard decision between the two.

Gibbo205

3,553 posts

207 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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jmcc42uk said:
The other thing which I'm sure has been mentioned a few times before is this.

Cayman R vs 981 GTS.

As far as I can see the R is sharper on steering and road feel where as the GTS could be more of a GT car. However work in the x73 and a geo on the GTS and it might bring back some feel.

The Steve Sutcliffe Autocar review really turned me on to the GTS but it's a hard decision between the two.
Not even a decision, the Cayman R is lighter, more precise but most of all smaller making it far easier and more enjoyable to hustle down a B road, also smaller wheels and tyres means the gearing is shorter too. smile

Cayman R everytime over a 981 GTS, I even prefer the R over the GT4 when it comes to a fun b road blasting car.

julian987R

6,840 posts

59 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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Escy said:
jmcc42uk said:
In reality though, who really cares?
Julian, it's all he talks about.
no no no, I share youTube videos input on many threads where the subject matter is nothing to do with prices, and share cars for sale that may be of interest.

Edited by julian987R on Saturday 31st December 16:38

julian987R

6,840 posts

59 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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ATM said:
Finally we all know there is a cost of living crisis. How anyone can think car prices will continue to rise during a cost of living crisis feels like madness to Me.
Anyone in the market for an R is not impacted by the cost of living crisis. An R is not a necessity. If one is in a crisis and needs wheels it is the Kia Picanto Hyundai type of cars that will feel the impact price wise. Prices always drop in Q4 on R's, it is seasonal effects not economic effects in my opinion. Compare notes in 365 days time.



ATM

18,298 posts

219 months

Saturday 31st December 2022
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julian987R said:
ATM said:
Most people who own expensive property and expensive cars will refuse to accept this and they will tell you the gravy train will keep on trucking.
Anyone in the market for an R is not impacted by the cost of living crisis. An R is not a necessity. If one is in a crisis and needs wheels it is the Kia Picanto Hyundai type of cars that will feel the impact price wise. Prices always drop in Q4 on R's, it is seasonal effects not economic effects in my opinion. Compare notes in 365 days time.
As I said some will refuse to believe what's coming.

You might have a massive bank balance of millions, all your pension plans in place and bigger balls than Me. But pretty much everyone else who owns one of these cars or might be thinking about buying one will be affected by a big downturn in financial conditions.

You have your view and I have mine. I've explained my reasons. You have explained yours. All we can do now is wait and see.