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julian987R said:
swanny71 said:
julian987R said:
swanny71 said:
julian987R said:
They were deemed sexist, offensive, misogynistic and irresponsible by the Advertising Standards.
No, they were not.Someone complained about one of their slightly risqué adverts printed in a couple of Porsche magazines. The advert was deemed to have broken some rules, so the ASA gave them a gentle slap on the wrist.
https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/strasse--uk--ltd-a1...
If you are going to post something potentially harmful to a business then be accurate or at least take a minute to think before posting.
Note: I’ve absolutely no affiliation to the company, have never used them and likely never will since they are 300 miles away from me.
“We concluded the ad was not sexually explicit, but by using a suggestive image that bore no relevance to the advertised product, the ad objectified women and was likely to cause serious offence to some people.”
Seems quite clear cut to me. demeaning, sexist, objectifying, Unsure whats got your back up.
Note: I too have absolutely no affiliation to the company, have never used them and likely never will since they are 300 miles away from me.
THE ADVERT!
You seemed to imply “they” (the business) were sexist, offensive and irresponsible.
Even if you misunderstood the ruling, you also threw in “misogynistic” for good measure which isn't mentioned anywhere in the ASA ruling.
I once ordered a tea in a cafe, milk no sugar, but it came with sugar stirred in. It wasn’t the teabags fault, nor the cup and saucers fault, it was whomever made it and deemed it correct to serve.
Edited by julian987R on Monday 30th January 22:39
On that basis it appears that those who may be offended need to be protected and not allowed to just not look ? Or live and let live ??
My half sister has in fact taken up an apprenticeship to be a motor mechanic / technician and I'm certain that she wears leggings on a daily basis that are far more revealingly contoured than the garb of the person in the advertisement.
I am also guessing that she wears rather more practical wear when wielding power tools ... but shouldn't that be her choice ?
julian987R said:
Who irresponsibly signed off on it then?
I once ordered a tea in a cafe, milk no sugar, but it came with sugar stirred in. It wasn’t the teabags fault, nor the cup and saucers fault, it was whomever made it and deemed it correct to serve.
Your use of the words tea and bagging here was not lost on me.I once ordered a tea in a cafe, milk no sugar, but it came with sugar stirred in. It wasn’t the teabags fault, nor the cup and saucers fault, it was whomever made it and deemed it correct to serve.
julian987R said:
swanny71 said:
julian987R said:
They said it, not me! though I would never use a company that signed off on an advert of that nature.
I hope you've never bought any Pirelli tyres or KP peanuts, Julian, you could be in for a shock !Edited by julian987R on Monday 30th January 21:34
PaulD86 said:
Is this a serious response, or a joke? I'm unsure. I would assume that your primary concern when selecting someone to work on your vehicle would be their compotence to work on said vehicle, however from your response with slightly bizarre analogy it sounds like you're suggesting that if the person responsible for advertising made an error or judgement, you wouldn't wish to do business with company as a whole. This doesn't sound particularly logical.
Even if outsourced then advertising agency, regardless if they lead/persuaded their client towards a questionable advert, it would ultimately be the client signing off on it. This is why, when any Brand falls fowl of advertising standards, they are on the hook for it than their Advertising agency....certainly in the press and eyes of the consumer.I don't know the company, nor care two hoots about them. I am just pointing out that THEY will have signed off on it (and if they didn't that is even more reckless behaviour). I am well aware that a high % of companies will have a loose cannon case or person that has brought the business in question or disrepute - - does it mean I wouldn't buy another cup of tea at that cafe (in my scenario I gave)? nope...it is a cup of tea and mistakes happen, but some subject matter, such of that adverts nature I simply find offensive and such a yesteryear POV. If you don't, fine, that I respect, now respect my POV please. Lets move on to OldTrouts new purchase.
Edited by julian987R on Tuesday 31st January 23:15
julian987R said:
Fantastic! they sure look great in white. Congratulations and I hope your first of many drives was a blast.
Any immediate impressions to share?
It is my first Porsche in ten years so my first thought it is that is great to be back in a Porsche.Any immediate impressions to share?
It has echoes of my 996 GT3, sublime damping, amazing steering and small. I love how it is so compact. I have not pushed it through the twisties yet, but even taking it easy, it feels gorgeous, the lack of momentum on rotation.
I can't wait to get to know it more on road and track.
Oh, and having toyed with getting a four-pot 718, I am SO glad I have a six pot. There is nothing like the sound of a proper Porsche engine.
Nurburgsingh said:
julian987R said:
Nurburgsingh said:
julian987R said:
This was for sale privately before? PCCB's replaced by Giro's ? Maybe it’s not all that then, well fully loaded that is, it is a nice one though all said and done.
Replacement set of ceramics costs..? I think even if you go ST and not OE you’re into the wrong side of £5k so it’s not a £49k caf.
It was a great car. Full service history. No air con but all the right extras with Buckets, PSE and full leather dash which made it a good place to be inside. I used it on track and although the PCCB's on the front are part worn they could be reused or they could be resurfaced by the company in Germany at about EUR1,100 per disc. The rears are fine. I still have the PCCB's.
That was a great value car in the mid to late £30's. Less so at close to £50k. I think it might be around for a while yet.
London GT3 said:
This was my old car. It is a two owner car although I owned it from 2013 at 4,000 miles. I offered it for sale on Pistonheads in August 2022 for 10 days at £38,750. I had no enquiries and sold it to We Buy Any Car for £35,000 later that month. It then sold via BCA for £38k at the end of August and then popped up at Bournemouth High Performance for £49,900 who then raised the price to £52,000 in the New Year. It seems they have moved it on again.
It was a great car. Full service history. No air con but all the right extras with Buckets, PSE and full leather dash which made it a good place to be inside. I used it on track and although the PCCB's on the front are part worn they could be reused or they could be resurfaced by the company in Germany at about EUR1,100 per disc. The rears are fine. I still have the PCCB's.
That was a great value car in the mid to late £30's. Less so at close to £50k. I think it might be around for a while yet.
Wow. You don't get that level of information on a car's previous purchase/sales history. 👍It was a great car. Full service history. No air con but all the right extras with Buckets, PSE and full leather dash which made it a good place to be inside. I used it on track and although the PCCB's on the front are part worn they could be reused or they could be resurfaced by the company in Germany at about EUR1,100 per disc. The rears are fine. I still have the PCCB's.
That was a great value car in the mid to late £30's. Less so at close to £50k. I think it might be around for a while yet.
There are six Cayman Rs for sale on AT. Some have been for sale for a very long time. They are all PDKs.
Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
Old Trout said:
There are six Cayman Rs for sale on AT. Some have been for sale for a very long time. They are all PDKs.
Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
The PDK one with RPM at £44k shows now as reserved, so PDK at the right price will sell. Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
Old Trout said:
There are six Cayman Rs for sale on AT. Some have been for sale for a very long time. They are all PDKs.
Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
The PDK one with RPM at £44k shows now as reserved, so PDK at the right price will sell. Is it is because they are overpriced, or is it because they are PDK? In the time I have been looking a small number of manuals have come and gone, perhaps at more realistic prices?
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