Cayman R Chat

[Actus Reus]

LennyM1984 said:

It may be worth evaluating your braking technique as well. I see a lot of people braking too much, too soon, or not enough (braking too little to begin with and then too much as the car slows) when on track.

I’m still learning the car so there’s undoubtedly room for improvement as I really gel with it, but saying that I’m not a novice and so I don’t think there’s THAT much to gain here. We’ll see, though - practice makes perfect.

[J-P]

Actus Reus said:

GT03 said:

Ideally you'd attack it from all angles.

Heat management: GT3 ducts, GT3 MC, and decent pads. The ducts will help to get rid of heat, while the GT3 MC and pads will give you the confidence to brake later and harder.

Higher fluid boiling point: SRF has a much higher wet boiling point of 270°C, compared to 220°C for RBF 660.

If you look at my list, it's around £500 in parts total. Complete transformation in braking compared to standard. Shims might delay heat soak by a couple of minutes, but I wouldn't bother personally.

Thanks - I think these pads are decent enough; my braking needs some work as I’m still not used to the car but the pads give me confidence. It’s the boiling fluid that’s set that back really; at the wrong corner that could be quite nasty.

I agree, though, with the above - I have new rear pads, front ducts, SRF etc on the way.

Interesting comment about the TC - I haven’t noticed it other than that the rears are much hotter than the fronts after a session, which I have only assumed is the TC. Some comments on the forums support this, others not. Apparently PDK cars are worse (according to some Internet strangers in the USA!).

I’ll give all of this a whirl and remember to turn the TC off as well as the sport plus. I’ll report back.

Hey Actus, I had the same set-up as GT03 and never had an issue with braking (although I did have braided lines as well). Just remember SRF needs to be changed every year instead of every 2 years.

[jimmy p]

GT4P said:

Viper Green dropped to £54995 now!

Getting to the price point where I think it will sell now

[ATM]

GT4P said:

Viper Green dropped to £54995 now!

Start at 65 right and he would not take a penny less?

[Porsche-worm]

ATM said:

Start at 65 right and he would not take a penny less?

No it was initially priced at £59995 i believe.

[ATM]

Porsche-worm said:

ATM said:

Start at 65 right and he would not take a penny less?

No it was initially priced at £59995 i believe.

Recently yes but I'm thinking longer back so maybe last year

[Actus Reus]

J-P said:

Hey Actus, I had the same set-up as GT03 and never had an issue with braking (although I did have braided lines as well). Just remember SRF needs to be changed every year instead of every 2 years.

Thanks - I'll probably change it more often anyway, tbh - but first I need to stop the bloody thing cooking its brakes. All the bits are on their way, indeed most of them arrived earlier today so hoping to fit them next week and then sling it around snetterton again the week after next for a few hours, though the weather forecast is so poor I may end up in the Yaris for a while.

[Porsche-worm]

ATM said:

Porsche-worm said:

ATM said:

Start at 65 right and he would not take a penny less?

No it was initially priced at £59995 i believe.

Recently yes but I'm thinking longer back so maybe last year

PaulD86 said:

J-P said:

MrVert said:

Nice….

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15225727

That is lovely! Punchy on price though.

It's been for sale with that asking price for ages. At least a year. Previously the owner just made it known through posts that he'd sell it for that, but looks like he's making it more official with the add. You'd REALLY have to really want your Cayman R in the wrong green to pay about 40% over what any other would be worth. I said last year I didn't see it selling at that price and it still being for sale suggests that may have been a reasonable prediction. Good luck to him.

[J-P]

I think that will sell at £55k - I'm tempted at that price. Such a nice car!

[Jellyfishfields]

Makes the green R look like a bargain.

https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/porsche-cayman-s-...

[IanB_76]

If anyone is looking for good options for track wheels for their R, these have lots of options depending on whether you want to upsize the tyre width, run 18s to give more track tyre options and have high strength, good brake clearance and lightweight.

Worth checking them out:

https://support.apexraceparts.com/hc/en-us/article...

[ATM]

jimmy p said:

GT4P said:

Viper Green dropped to £54995 now!

Getting to the price point where I think it will sell now

Is this Sold now?

[boxsey]

Actus Reus said:

Thanks - I think these pads are decent enough; my braking needs some work as I’m still not used to the car but the pads give me confidence. It’s the boiling fluid that’s set that back really; at the wrong corner that could be quite nasty.

I agree, though, with the above - I have new rear pads, front ducts, SRF etc on the way.

Interesting comment about the TC - I haven’t noticed it other than that the rears are much hotter than the fronts after a session, which I have only assumed is the TC. Some comments on the forums support this, others not. Apparently PDK cars are worse (according to some Internet strangers in the USA!).

I’ll give all of this a whirl and remember to turn the TC off as well as the sport plus. I’ll report back.

When me and ASBI were tracking our Rs, which were both PDK, his rear brakes got significantly hotter than mine did because he was leaving the PSM on, while I was turning it off. Nb. As I understand it, even with PSM turned off it's not completely off which would explain why I used see the warning light on the dash flash occasionally when it was turned off (usually on corner exit).

Like yourself, I never bothered turning anything off when tracking my GT4 because the stability control never intruded on track (I probably never got near the much higher GT4 limits). And I also never had hot brake issues with it. When describing the two cars in standard trim I would say that the GT4 is very well braked but the R is very much under-braked (i.e. it's much more able than the standard brakes allow it to be).

[ChrisW.]

It was one of the few cars where PCCB's actually made a significant difference to the braking performance ...

The steels and PCCB's are much bigger on the GT4 ... but these are GT3 sized

[Actus Reus]

Thanks - I've changed the fluid and pads (and shims) today, but I think yes, the real answer, was turning off the bloody TC. Car is always in sport plus, but I'll be sure to turn that off now. Testing at Snett next Wednesday!

Thanks all - very helpful comments.

[PaulD86]

https://theautolounge.co.uk/stock/

White Cayman R with red wheels going to be appearing soon at a dealer local to me. The red wheels are bold, but I don't mind them. Although I'd want the decals to match if I were going for something that bold.

[Nurburgsingh]

PaulD86 said:

https://theautolounge.co.uk/stock/

White Cayman R with red wheels going to be appearing soon at a dealer local to me. The red wheels are bold, but I don't mind them. Although I'd want the decals to match if I were going for something that bold.

I’d want the center caps to match as well

[PaulD86]

Nurburgsingh said:

PaulD86 said:

https://theautolounge.co.uk/stock/

White Cayman R with red wheels going to be appearing soon at a dealer local to me. The red wheels are bold, but I don't mind them. Although I'd want the decals to match if I were going for something that bold.

I’d want the center caps to match as well

They do. Unless you mean you don't want the normal Porsche emblem?

[AAAndy]

PaulD86 said:

https://theautolounge.co.uk/stock/

White Cayman R with red wheels going to be appearing soon at a dealer local to me. The red wheels are bold, but I don't mind them. Although I'd want the decals to match if I were going for something that bold.

From memory this is tighnamara's CR where we discussed the SOR process a week or so back. Has now popped up on Autotrader - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308040...

It is priced a little lower than I expected considering it's high spec/low mileage, as there has been 2 x Peridot manual cars sold with an asking of £53k in the last month, and the Viper Green CR seems to have disappeared from the classifieds which was at £55k (but may not have sold).

Either way looks like a lovely example for someone looking to get into a CR and likely won't hang around for long.

[PaulD86]

AAAndy said:

From memory this is tighnamara's CR where we discussed the SOR process a week or so back. Has now popped up on Autotrader - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308040...

Ah yes, I hadn't put two and two together on that one. I've dealt with The Auto Lounge for a SOR and they were great. Craig and Grahamknow their stuff and have some lovely stock. Graham is also rather handy behind the wheel and has had success in GT racing.

In a world where finance rates are up and Porsche now have an ever-increasing volume of new cars for sale, I wonder if this is us now about to go down the other side of the wave there has been in car prices. If in good condition I'd say that car was being advertised at sensible money, though I would be curious what other cars have actually sold for.

Edited by PaulD86 on Monday 7th August 12:51