Cayman R Chat

Cayman R Chat

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ian964

532 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Sport Chrono was an option on the R as well. Alongside the PDK shift changes, it also sharpens the throttle response (both PDK and manual) and changes the way the rev limiter cuts in.

I'll have my R on track for the first time at Oulton on Friday, will be interesting with all this stuff compared to the 964 Cup!

Edited by ian964 on Wednesday 9th March 16:03

boxsey

3,502 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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ian964 said:
Sport Chrono was an option on the R as well. Alongside the PDK shift changes, it also sharpens the throttle response (both PDK and manual) and changes the way the rev limiter cuts in.
So what do you think of your R so far Ian? smile

ian964

532 posts

217 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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boxsey said:
So what do you think of your R so far Ian? smile
Loving it! I've only done about 300 miles so far, it's very different to my 964 but that was really just a road-legal race car.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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ian964 said:
Sport Chrono was an option on the R as well. Alongside the PDK shift changes, it also sharpens the throttle response (both PDK and manual) and changes the way the rev limiter cuts in.

I'll have my R on track for the first time at Oulton on Friday, will be interesting with all this stuff compared to the 964 Cup!
does not change the rev limiter on a manual but it does give you a 10% extra slip angle, faster PDK shifts and better throttle response feel.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 9th March 17:43

boxsey

3,502 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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ian964 said:
Loving it! I've only done about 300 miles so far, it's very different to my 964 but that was really just a road-legal race car.
Your cup was a little bruiser and fabulous on track. We've had some great fun in our 964s...hope we can continue that with the Caymen! biggrin

If I can get away on Friday, I'll pop over to Oulton to see how you're getting on.

fridaypassion

5,510 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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boxsey said:
Thanks.

So I presume the R has Chrono as standard but needed to be specced as an option on an S. Not interested in the launch stuff but I guess the sport plus will be useful for the track sessions. Should be quite interesting trying to work out what to turn off and what to turn on before going on the track after previously only having to belt up and go. biggrin
Yes as mentioned the Chrono is an option on the R as well as are the seats and Nav. The Rs are just as spec sensitive as the S too. 20k mile R I passed on earlier this year changed hands for 32k Same car specced up would have been about 43k at the time and now probably a good buy at 45k so choose carefully!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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A 32k R. And now a £45k car is good value lol

You cannot made it up.

OPC cannot sell the 4 cars listed at these new prices, let's see what happens.

As for an S at £40k that's a tough sell IMO which will drop £10k in the next 12 months if you are lucky.

Makes same year boxster's at £27k seem the best value ATM and now what iam looking at for a run about.

fridaypassion

5,510 posts

193 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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an S is not technically worth 40k but thats what I was offered for my particular car. Its very unusual but itw worth more than 40k to me personally. Realistic market value is about £36k This is not likely to fall much.

981s are still hovering over 40k for good spec cars and they seem to sell quickly. Will probably get one in this year to try.

Comments on R reflecting a bit of timing but more the importanc eof spec on the R if you want to start talking values and desirability they MUST have carbon buckets/Chrono and should have PSE. Any one of these options missing makes a colossal difference to the chances of a sale. Its almost like discussing two completely different cars.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Crono and pse are trinkets which can be added cheap at any time and does not affect a sale.

I try and teach you the R spec but you still not got it have you :-)
The only R which has sold from the OPC list did not have either ! And there was a que for it.

You need to learn the cars more IMO.

As for a £40k S that's dream land and set to drop like a stone more than £10k IMO.
If you have been offered £40k for an S and turned it down more fool you lol.
The £32k R was laughable no car has ever seen those values.
There was a R for £35k at one point sans AC.

For an R to sell well it only needs 3 things
Manual
Buckets
Spyder wheels

Not trinkets you talk of.
Although when there are a few cars for sale the trinket cars will sell 1st ofcourse.

Black does not help its cause either a poor re seller as are all black cars ATM.
Looking for a boxster myself only 5 OPC cars for sale all black, no one wants black cars it seems eps R's.

ajondyh

585 posts

89 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Also whether you like it or not, cars without A/C struggle too.

J-P

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3,912 posts

171 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Crono and pse are trinkets which can be added cheap at any time and does not affect a sale.

I try and teach you the R spec but you still not got it have you :-)
The only R which has sold from the OPC list did not have either ! And there was a que for it.

You need to learn the cars more IMO.

As for a £40k S that's dream land and set to drop like a stone more than £10k IMO.
If you have been offered £40k for an S and turned it down more fool you lol.
The £32k R was laughable no car has ever seen those values.
There was a R for £35k at one point sans AC.

For an R to sell well it only needs 3 things
Manual
Buckets
Spyder wheels

Not trinkets you talk of.
Although when there are a few cars for sale the trinket cars will sell 1st ofcourse.

Black does not help its cause either a poor re seller as are all black cars ATM.
Looking for a boxster myself only 5 OPC cars for sale all black, no one wants black cars it seems eps R's.
He's right. My car is black but once it's been down to KDS Keltec, I think people might change their mind on the black wink

J-P

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3,912 posts

171 months

Wednesday 9th March 2016
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fridaypassion said:
My car is yes. What do you mean by stock? No spec? Or unmodified? My argument is for a well specced S. Evidently we are in silly mode here now. Like trying to debunk scientology with Tom cruise biggrin

As for the asking price on mine it ain't for sale. I've knocked back an offer of 40k for it last week. It's worth more than that to me.
By stock, I do mean non modded. And having driven a stock S, I know that I much prefer the R to the S. I don't like PASM very much and the R has a passive sports suspension cloud9

boxsey

3,502 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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Porsche911R said:
Black does not help its cause either a poor re seller as are all black cars ATM.
Looking for a boxster myself only 5 OPC cars for sale all black, no one wants black cars it seems eps R's.
I think I read that the boxster would just be for a runabout so why not get a 2.9 boxster or cayman? Surely they would be plenty of fun and there is a reasonable choice at the moment. If I was going to only use mine on the road I would go for something like this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

It's PDK but auto is now my preference for a regular use car.

Luckily I've now found something that suits both my regular use and track needs. wink

J-P

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3,912 posts

171 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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boxsey said:
Porsche911R said:
Black does not help its cause either a poor re seller as are all black cars ATM.
Looking for a boxster myself only 5 OPC cars for sale all black, no one wants black cars it seems eps R's.
I think I read that the boxster would just be for a runabout so why not get a 2.9 boxster or cayman? Surely they would be plenty of fun and there is a reasonable choice at the moment. If I was going to only use mine on the road I would go for something like this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

It's PDK but auto is now my preference for a regular use car.

Luckily I've now found something that suits both my regular use and track needs. wink
Cool - what are you going for?

boxsey

3,502 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th March 2016
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J-P said:
Cool - what are you going for?
I've kept the faith J-P and will confirm all when I've got my grubby mitts on it! biggrin

J-P

Original Poster:

3,912 posts

171 months

Friday 11th March 2016
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boxsey said:
J-P said:
Cool - what are you going for?
I've kept the faith J-P and will confirm all when I've got my grubby mitts on it! biggrin
Sounds great - keep us posted.

ajondyh

585 posts

89 months

Saturday 12th March 2016
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fridaypassion said:
If you have missed earlier in the thread I have owned and run an R and reached my own conclusions.....

Also my S is not tuned it's completely standard just very well specced. My point is that you could make something better for dedicated road or dedicated track use from a more basic S.

Edited by fridaypassion on Tuesday 8th March 23:05
Will we see you on track any time soon? wink

fridaypassion

5,510 posts

193 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Yes I'll be passing you in my Honda powered Elise biggrin

ajondyh

585 posts

89 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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fridaypassion said:
Yes I'll be passing you in my Honda powered Elise biggrin
Now I'm certain you're deluded rolleyes

fridaypassion

5,510 posts

193 months

Sunday 13th March 2016
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Really? lol have you ever done a trackday?

220BHP - under 800 kilos and sticky tyres with Nitron NTR46 race pro dampers.

Feeling lucky?