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Having had a GTS (PDK) and driven a Cayman R (PDK) id say the GTS' calibration for the PDK box is a lit sharper, particularly on downshifts. With the GTS exhaust fakery it also works well.
I love my manual cayman R so would reccomend that on a 987 especially with factory short shift...however a 981 manual box is a nicer thing to use still. The box I had on my 981 Spyder is the nicest i think ive ever used bar my 205 GTi.
However they're all special so as long as you're happy.
I love my manual cayman R so would reccomend that on a 987 especially with factory short shift...however a 981 manual box is a nicer thing to use still. The box I had on my 981 Spyder is the nicest i think ive ever used bar my 205 GTi.
However they're all special so as long as you're happy.
MCR5_WNA said:
He was braking before Paddock Hill 113mph against my 110, but where the real difference was, was through the bends. :
I’m a mediocre track driver at best but I’m braking before Paddock Hill in my PDK R consistently between 115 and 117mph. Not wishing to start a speed league table here but if I’m that fast and it’s (clearly) down to the car not the driver then a PDK R seems to do a decent job.My only concern with the R is that people are getting increasingly focused on the mileages and walking away from good cars with low miles when compared to any other make/model and other models of Cayman. With 20k miles in 7 to 8 years, surely the lack of use doesn't do them any good. I say that with a sense of irony though, having only covered about 2.5k per year in mine since I got it in May 2016 - partly to preserve value, partly because it doesn't come out once the salty roads appear, and partly because I don't get out much!
Mine is currently on 37.5k and it'll cross that 40k boundary before the year is out.
I'd love to hear what sort of mileages people have on their R and how many a year you're racking up ?
Mine is currently on 37.5k and it'll cross that 40k boundary before the year is out.
I'd love to hear what sort of mileages people have on their R and how many a year you're racking up ?
s3 akr said:
My only concern with the R is that people are getting increasingly focused on the mileages and walking away from good cars with low miles when compared to any other make/model and other models of Cayman. With 20k miles in 7 to 8 years, surely the lack of use doesn't do them any good. I say that with a sense of irony though, having only covered about 2.5k per year in mine since I got it in May 2016 - partly to preserve value, partly because it doesn't come out once the salty roads appear, and partly because I don't get out much!
Mine is currently on 37.5k and it'll cross that 40k boundary before the year is out.
I'd love to hear what sort of mileages people have on their R and how many a year you're racking up ?
37.5K and 30.2K on my 2 R’s. 3K miles added per car per year. My 911 GTS also does 3K and the Cayenne does 15K. Mine is currently on 37.5k and it'll cross that 40k boundary before the year is out.
I'd love to hear what sort of mileages people have on their R and how many a year you're racking up ?
Bought mine on 28k September 2016.
Just clicked 38k this month.
It’s been on numerous track days, euro trip, Nurburgring and the Isle of Man in my ownership.
I don’t drive it much in winter or when the roads have been salted. Other than that it’s game on whenever I get the chance.
Buy it, drive it and love it.
Just clicked 38k this month.
It’s been on numerous track days, euro trip, Nurburgring and the Isle of Man in my ownership.
I don’t drive it much in winter or when the roads have been salted. Other than that it’s game on whenever I get the chance.
Buy it, drive it and love it.
ClioTrophy55 said:
37.5K and 30.2K on my 2 R’s. 3K miles added per car per year. My 911 GTS also does 3K and the Cayenne does 15K.
Having 2 seems to be the way forward....... I did get very tempted at the £30k, 19k miles Cat N Peridot car at one point.frayz said:
Bought mine on 28k September 2016.
Just clicked 38k this month.
It’s been on numerous track days, euro trip, Nurburgring and the Isle of Man in my ownership.
I don’t drive it much in winter or when the roads have been salted. Other than that it’s game on whenever I get the chance.
Buy it, drive it and love it.
Good to see someone using theirs as intended. As cmoose once commented to me - you wont be on your death bed thinking "I wish I'd driven my Porsche less"!Just clicked 38k this month.
It’s been on numerous track days, euro trip, Nurburgring and the Isle of Man in my ownership.
I don’t drive it much in winter or when the roads have been salted. Other than that it’s game on whenever I get the chance.
Buy it, drive it and love it.
Has any one on here got a true high miler ? I know that a few well over 65k miles exist from sale ads in the usual web sites.
I wont mention the mileage on mine as its embarrassing !
I have full intentions of correcting this in the coming months with a trip to northern Italy (lakes) via the Alps planned late August / early Sept, any recommendations of places or roads to take in welcome?
Also intending a track day or two but would like a second set of wheels / tyres for track use. Struggling to find any in the correct sizes tho, again recommendations welcome? What are peoples thoughts of dropping to 8J front / 9.5J rear with same 235 / 265 tyres ?
Kev
I have full intentions of correcting this in the coming months with a trip to northern Italy (lakes) via the Alps planned late August / early Sept, any recommendations of places or roads to take in welcome?
Also intending a track day or two but would like a second set of wheels / tyres for track use. Struggling to find any in the correct sizes tho, again recommendations welcome? What are peoples thoughts of dropping to 8J front / 9.5J rear with same 235 / 265 tyres ?
Kev
Personally I don't get this whole milage hang up people who have a few miles on the clock are having a dig at low miles and low mile owners doing similar saying cars not worth as much with more miles.
Well that always going to be the case lower miles command more money fact.
Higher miles cheaper to purchase to begin with .
So it's horses for courses we all use our cars in different ways take my CR it's our fourth car one of which is a 981 which is used 5 days a week now 32k on it.
My CR is only used in summer on road trips few Porsche events thus it only has 17 k on it .when it is used it feels very special for the rest of the year I have options .
You know I think most can agree a CR is a great car always feels a bit special a driver's car
Some choose different gearboxes and seats its that persons choice.
Yes I understand certain specs commands more money than others fact.
Let's all enjoy our CRs whether it be 2 k a year or 20k driven always fun and special.
Well that always going to be the case lower miles command more money fact.
Higher miles cheaper to purchase to begin with .
So it's horses for courses we all use our cars in different ways take my CR it's our fourth car one of which is a 981 which is used 5 days a week now 32k on it.
My CR is only used in summer on road trips few Porsche events thus it only has 17 k on it .when it is used it feels very special for the rest of the year I have options .
You know I think most can agree a CR is a great car always feels a bit special a driver's car
Some choose different gearboxes and seats its that persons choice.
Yes I understand certain specs commands more money than others fact.
Let's all enjoy our CRs whether it be 2 k a year or 20k driven always fun and special.
Edited by tracydeedance on Monday 27th May 11:35
Edited by tracydeedance on Monday 27th May 11:37
Edited by tracydeedance on Monday 27th May 17:35
Edited by tracydeedance on Monday 27th May 17:37
Good to see some usage!!
@tracydeedance - I agree with you and that the specs and miles make a car affordable to some where it may otherwise not be, but if bought at strong money, the mileage can have quite an impact on the retained value if not managed to some degree. Its a balance no doubt, but one that is seeming to get people hung up and not using their cars as much as they might - me included!
As a combination of price vs miles vs specs, all things have an effect, but its also those same things that make the difference between the rate of depreciation (or appreciation). I'm hopefully protecting a position of low depreciation rather than trying to use mine as an investment and I hope spec and condition are good enough to balance against mileage (within reason) to keep that aim true. I'm not going to turn down appreciation should it occur though!!
I love the car, love driving it and love owning it. I will be using it a little more in the coming weeks - taking opportunities and excuses to cover some cross country ground and a strong avoidance of motorway miles!!
@tracydeedance - I agree with you and that the specs and miles make a car affordable to some where it may otherwise not be, but if bought at strong money, the mileage can have quite an impact on the retained value if not managed to some degree. Its a balance no doubt, but one that is seeming to get people hung up and not using their cars as much as they might - me included!
As a combination of price vs miles vs specs, all things have an effect, but its also those same things that make the difference between the rate of depreciation (or appreciation). I'm hopefully protecting a position of low depreciation rather than trying to use mine as an investment and I hope spec and condition are good enough to balance against mileage (within reason) to keep that aim true. I'm not going to turn down appreciation should it occur though!!
I love the car, love driving it and love owning it. I will be using it a little more in the coming weeks - taking opportunities and excuses to cover some cross country ground and a strong avoidance of motorway miles!!
I done something over the weekend that I havent done for years
I had a spare afternoon (doesnt happen much) so I got the R out of the garage and just went for a drive, no destination, no reason, no company
Hit the country roads and they are so good, loads of feedback windows down PSE soundtrack come back grinning ear to ear they really are rather special it makes a drive an event
The day before I had a set of Pilot Sport 4S fitted and even new and unscubbed there a light year in front of the NCT's that were removed
loving mine, hopefully a keeper
I had a spare afternoon (doesnt happen much) so I got the R out of the garage and just went for a drive, no destination, no reason, no company
Hit the country roads and they are so good, loads of feedback windows down PSE soundtrack
come back grinning ear to ear they really are rather special it makes a drive an event The day before I had a set of Pilot Sport 4S fitted and even new and unscubbed there a light year in front of the NCT's that were removed
loving mine, hopefully a keeper
Mogsmex said:
I done something over the weekend that I havent done for years
I had a spare afternoon (doesnt happen much) so I got the R out of the garage and just went for a drive, no destination, no reason, no company
Hit the country roads and they are so good, loads of feedback windows down PSE soundtrack come back grinning ear to ear they really are rather special it makes a drive an event
The day before I had a set of Pilot Sport 4S fitted and even new and unscubbed there a light year in front of the NCT's that were removed
loving mine, hopefully a keeper
I knew those tyres would be a game changer on yours mate. Can’t wait to have them both back out. I had a spare afternoon (doesnt happen much) so I got the R out of the garage and just went for a drive, no destination, no reason, no company
Hit the country roads and they are so good, loads of feedback windows down PSE soundtrack
come back grinning ear to ear they really are rather special it makes a drive an event The day before I had a set of Pilot Sport 4S fitted and even new and unscubbed there a light year in front of the NCT's that were removed
loving mine, hopefully a keeper
Had a productive weekend on mine.
Faint smell of coolant at the front end was traced at the last service to the beginings of a leak on the front coolant line unions.
I knew this was a pretty straight forward job but did involve dropping the front subframe to do it properly, as the cross-over lines run above the steering rack. From the outside there was no visible signs of coolant loss, however once removed, it was clear to see where they had corroded inside.
I purchased every hose that runs at the front of the car, and as recommended by RPM Technik i have sealed all the new unions with Waxoil to prevent future corrosion. Coolant refersh and cleaned the rads out while i was there.
Amazing how much crap is collected in teh rads after just 12 months as this is the 3rd time ive done this. Im tempted to make some mesh grilles mounted behind the bumper. Im not really a fan of teh Zunsport ones.
All in a good job jobbed, and anothet one off the list of stuff to do.
Faint smell of coolant at the front end was traced at the last service to the beginings of a leak on the front coolant line unions.
I knew this was a pretty straight forward job but did involve dropping the front subframe to do it properly, as the cross-over lines run above the steering rack. From the outside there was no visible signs of coolant loss, however once removed, it was clear to see where they had corroded inside.
I purchased every hose that runs at the front of the car, and as recommended by RPM Technik i have sealed all the new unions with Waxoil to prevent future corrosion. Coolant refersh and cleaned the rads out while i was there.
Amazing how much crap is collected in teh rads after just 12 months as this is the 3rd time ive done this. Im tempted to make some mesh grilles mounted behind the bumper. Im not really a fan of teh Zunsport ones.
All in a good job jobbed, and anothet one off the list of stuff to do.
Edited by frayz on Tuesday 28th May 17:58
s3 akr said:
ClioTrophy55 said:
37.5K and 30.2K on my 2 R’s. 3K miles added per car per year. My 911 GTS also does 3K and the Cayenne does 15K.
Having 2 seems to be the way forward....... I did get very tempted at the £30k, 19k miles Cat N Peridot car at one point.My S had the two rear water hoses done a couple of services ago, I asked if the seals were nitrile or viton the latter lasting way longer as they don’t go hard over time plus typical Porsche over complicating joining two parts together were a compression band would give a much more secure fixing than a housing o-ring and retaining clip...and why not make it all out of plastic or better still stainless so the parts won’t corrode.
s3 akr said:
Being about £10k short !!! I'd have to sell my current car which isn't depreciating to buy one that probably would, and that would also be hard to shift at a later date.
That all makes sense. In some ways though it does seem crazy that what look to be well repaired cosmetics can reduce by a third/15k a car`s value. I`d still be seriously interested were it a pdk. Seems my legs are a bit long for a manual. Just love that colour
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