Cayman R Chat

[s3 akr]

911jon said:

Many thanks for the welcome gents,

You'll enjoy it without any doubt!

[Porsche911R]

911jon said:

Many thanks for the welcome gents,

Mr Vert, they do seem very similar. Thanks for the tip on the short shift kit, it does sound appealing. I'll shop around for fitment prices. Congratulations on your recent purchase too.

The car doesn't have PSE, but it sounds delightful to me as it is. Does PSE add power, or just more noise?

Totally agree that they are a magic potion of a car... somehow greater than the sum of the parts. I'm delighted that I have found one and just a few miles from my location.

My view is that it's a better looking car than the 981/2; more delicate and sculpted. I know most will not agree, but for me the 987 shape has Porsche DNA running through it... the later cars, not so much. I have driven a 981 GTS, but found it much less involving than I hoped. Good car, but sanitised a bit too much for my taste.

Sounds about spot on vs the 981,s. I would go for an after market one, they are a bit quite oem imo plus save a bit more weight.

[FTW]

I’d definitely go aftermarket. I think PSE is a bit quiet!

[frayz]

If i were in the market id be checking one of these out

https://www.kline-innovation.com/exhaust-collectio...

[PaulD86]

frayz said:

If i were in the market id be checking one of these out

https://www.kline-innovation.com/exhaust-collectio...

• Drools*. Know the price? That looks perfect!

[frayz]

PaulD86 said:

• Drools*. Know the price? That looks perfect!

One hundred million squillion dollars
Its Inconel so will be mega money but what a beautifully made bit of kit. Sensible money the Soul Performance stuff looks lovely too

[911jon]

Very interesting options gents, many thanks.

What none of the manufacturers seem to offer though is before and after dyno runs (for power AND torque). I am always highly suspicious of 'performance' exhaust systems; many reduce torque for the sake of a few bhp at the very top.

Manufacturers spend a lot of time and money on exhaust development; it isn't necessarily easy to beat OEM performance, though there is the possibility that Porsche deliberately strangled the 3.4 a bit with the 911 in mind. The 997 Carrera 2 3.6 was 245bhp. Maybe they didn't want to challenge that at the time.

I will drive it as it is until I feel that I know it well, then make some decisions on whether to change things. SS probably the first thing.

[Porsche911R]

911jon said:

Very interesting options gents, many thanks.

What none of the manufacturers seem to offer though is before and after dyno runs (for power AND torque). I am always highly suspicious of 'performance' exhaust systems; many reduce torque for the sake of a few bhp at the very top.

Manufacturers spend a lot of time and money on exhaust development; it isn't necessarily easy to beat OEM performance, though there is the possibility that Porsche deliberately strangled the 3.4 a bit with the 911 in mind. The 997 Carrera 2 3.6 was 245bhp. Maybe they didn't want to challenge that at the time.

I will drive it as it is until I feel that I know it well, then make some decisions on whether to change things. SS probably the first thing.

back box will give you 5bhp at best.

the power comes from changing out the manifolds from 4 x 400 cel cats to 2x200 cel cats.

the kine is about £4k but they also do a steel one as well as the sexy stuff.

[frayz]

Porsche911R said:

back box will give you 5bhp at best.

the power comes from changing out the manifolds from 4 x 400 cel cats to 2x200 cel cats.

the kine is about £4k but they also do a steel one as well as the sexy stuff.

Agree with the above.
£4K isn't bad considering the cost/manufacture of that system.

[911jon]

Very useful input, many thanks all.

I'm going to start with a dyno run. I know a chap nearby with a MAHA. Anything I decide to do to the car in the future will be subjected to a re-test, one upgrade at a time.

My first priority is the tyres. It's on a set of fairly nasty P Zeros (cracked and old) that may well be the originals that the car was supplied on in 2011. I'm thinking Michelin PS4s (non N-rated), from reading around the PistonHeads forum.

The car really is a delight to drive. I'm finding no issues with the ride; my Alfa GT V6 is less compliant.

One question: The car is reluctant to start when cold. The dash displays "depress clutch" even when the clutch pedal is fully depressed. The previous owner changed the sensor switch at the end of last year, but the issue is still presenting itself. After a few tries, the car starts. Very odd. Has anyone encountered something similar?

[Porsche911R]

911jon said:

Very useful input, many thanks all.

I'm going to start with a dyno run. I know a chap nearby with a MAHA. Anything I decide to do to the car in the future will be subjected to a re-test, one upgrade at a time.

My first priority is the tyres. It's on a set of fairly nasty P Zeros (cracked and old) that may well be the originals that the car was supplied on in 2011. I'm thinking Michelin PS4s (non N-rated), from reading around the PistonHeads forum.

The car really is a delight to drive. I'm finding no issues with the ride; my Alfa GT V6 is less compliant.

One question: The car is reluctant to start when cold. The dash displays "depress clutch" even when the clutch pedal is fully depressed. The previous owner changed the sensor switch at the end of last year, but the issue is still presenting itself. After a few tries, the car starts. Very odd. Has anyone encountered something similar?

buy a Bosche S4 battery and remove the clutch microswitch. cars still I bet got a Mol in there and the clutch switch is just an arse.

[frayz]

As above bin off the clutch switch.
Hateful things

[PaulD86]

For the uninformed, what exactly needs to be done to be rid of the switch? Do you just need to disconnect it, or will that cuase problems?

[frayz]

PaulD86 said:

For the uninformed, what exactly needs to be done to be rid of the switch? Do you just need to disconnect it, or will that cuase problems?

Single stage switch on top of the clutch pedal, has a pair of spade connectors in it. Remove the spades and connect them together via an auto fuse. Cover with electrical tape/heatshrink and safely zip tie out of the way.

If you wanted to get creative you could connect these to a hidden switch that makes it into a cheap, basic form of immobiliser.

Edited by frayz on Wednesday 21st August 15:52

[911jon]

Porsche911R said:

buy a Bosche S4 battery and remove the clutch microswitch. cars still I bet got a Mol in there and the clutch switch is just an arse.

Thanks 911R, the battery has been replaced with a 'Dynamic' Silver 80Ah (a UK brand I am not familiar with). Looks recent but is not dated.

I will try the clutch switch removal; I am not a fan of the nannying nature of these devices anyway. If the problem persists I will have the battery tested or replaced.

Thanks for the detailed instructions, frayz. I was indeed assuming that I would need to just connect the terminals together.

[Porsche911R]

911jon said:

Thanks 911R, the battery has been replaced with a 'Dynamic' Silver 80Ah (a UK brand I am not familiar with). Looks recent but is not dated.

I will try the clutch switch removal; I am not a fan of the nannying nature of these devices anyway. If the problem persists I will have the battery tested or replaced.

Thanks for the detailed instructions, frayz. I was indeed assuming that I would need to just connect the terminals together.

I found out the bad way and stalled at a round about and then could not start the car !!

not easy in todays age of drivers when you have a stuck car on the exit to a round about, no one helps you push it just every one beeping or laughing at you. Lucky there are still some people who will get out and give you a push...

[911jon]

Driver courtesy is indeed a scarce commodity of late. I’ll try not to break down until I have fitted the rocker switch I ordered. Actually, the starting issue was absent today. Maybe the battery just needed some charge?

I took the R out today and had a first really spirited drive in it. Sublime; a scalpel of a car. It feels new. The engine sounded fantastic even through my extra-basic standard exhaust. Plenty quick enough for the road.

[s3 akr]

911jon said:

Plenty quick enough for the road.

I'd agree on this 100%. I think a car has to be capable and entertaining, but also accessible on the road. So many quicker cars' capabilities are just not accessible enough of the time on the roads. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't find roads for certain cars, but what if you don't want to, or don't have time to go finding those special roads and just want a quick blast on those local and nearby ? For me, that's one of the places where this car slots in perfectly (as would many other cars too). If a car fits into your life easily, it gets used all the more and gets under your skin much more readily. Those special, searched out roads become even more special too!

[frayz]

s3 akr said:

I'd agree on this 100%. I think a car has to be capable and entertaining, but also accessible on the road. So many quicker cars' capabilities are just not accessible enough of the time on the roads. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you can't find roads for certain cars, but what if you don't want to, or don't have time to go finding those special roads and just want a quick blast on those local and nearby ? For me, that's one of the places where this car slots in perfectly (as would many other cars too). If a car fits into your life easily, it gets used all the more and gets under your skin much more readily. Those special, searched out roads become even more special too!

Bang on,

I came from a extremely focused and big bhp Subaru Impreza and the areas to use it on the road to any kind of potential were few and far between. Even with the Cayman some 250bhp short on power, the R is just such a peach of a sports car. And if the 2 were side by side, i know id be getting in the silly green one every time

I don't usually, but seeing as the sun is out, i've driven mine to work again today.
Every time i get in mine, it feels like an event, and it only takes a few medium paced corners before you remember just how special they feel.

I honestly cant see what could replace it for driving enjoyment.

[Rsx Boy]

A beautifully priced car here.....
If you want a pdk.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...