GT4 strut top failure

GT4 strut top failure

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SRT Hellcat

7,031 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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The issue Paul is the use of aluminium within the construction of the car. The only thing on my Hellcat that is aluminium is the bonnet. That I can live with. Aluminium cars do not crash well

ratty6464

628 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Any further update on this failure? Just seen one of the you tubers with a yellow GT4 has experienced the same issue

Olivera

7,142 posts

239 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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ratty6464 said:
Any further update on this failure? Just seen one of the you tubers with a yellow GT4 has experienced the same issue
Just watched that video.

5k miles on the clock and 3rd gear, clutch then strut top failure!

Slippydiff

14,830 posts

223 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Mad Scientist said:
I’m sure they will be watching his kerb hopping over zealous recent track footage with interest. Including the trip into the litter.
Whilst I’ve not seen that footage you allude to, one needs to remember this is a car that should be equally at home on track as it is the road (and some would say that’s precisely what it was designed for)

Plenty of Porsche GT cars end up in the kitty litter and go on to leave normal healthy lives.
I tend to think that when a company such as Porsche builds a car such as the GT4, it should be able to take some kerb hopping action in its stride without the front suspension top mounts punching through the turrets...

Edit to add, I’ve watched a few minutes of the video you alluded to, if a BMW 4 door saloon can withstand the rigours of some sprightly track action, a purpose built car such as the GT4 should be able to also, especially when it’s publicity video shows it’s well known chief test driver doing just that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_F91GMna_c0


Edited by Slippydiff on Friday 15th February 09:18

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

boxsey

3,574 posts

210 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Link to previous track action before the strut failure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_WpLON3VSk

Apart from a fast off into the kitty, nothing particularly out of the ordinary when track driving imo.

Edited by boxsey on Friday 15th February 10:17

Wilmslowboy

4,209 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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One at copart as well.....



ttdan

1,091 posts

193 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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No way should the owner have to remove any videos. Obvious design fault that needs sorting. Not as if Porsche told buyers that track use was not advised...:-) quite the opposite.

88racing

1,748 posts

156 months

Saturday 16th February 2019
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Ran plenty of brrrrr kerbs in the two race Cayman GT4 and neither ever did that!

Edited by 88racing on Saturday 16th February 22:16

WORRALL.

51 posts

90 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Wilmslowboy said:
One at copart as well.....


Is this another recent failure or was it a while ago?

LotusMike2

10 posts

62 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Hello, link to video, outcome should be interesting...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyXLsdOw0

RBT0

1,476 posts

119 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Holy st.

Shall I be concerned for my 981 CGTS x73?

I guess high mileage and non GT4s value is going to be affected?

Definitely Porsche should provide full repair and courtesy car.

I wouldn’t be in Porsche Body Structure Chief Engineer job right now.

That’s very sad...

Wilmslowboy

4,209 posts

206 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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WORRALL. said:
Is this another recent failure or was it a while ago?
Not sure when it failed (it was taxed until Dec 2018), the car is currently for sale at the link below (not corpart, the other site)

https://auctions.car-transplants.co.uk/vehicle-lis...

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Has any of the owners complained this to DVSA yet in the last 2 years or any proper investigation yet? Obviously, this is a pure design issue and Porsche A.G. allowing these cars with this defect is not road-safe. I would not want to be around one of these while cruising around 70mph on busy m25!

Sport Coupe

415 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Olivera said:
ratty6464 said:
Any further update on this failure? Just seen one of the you tubers with a yellow GT4 has experienced the same issue
Just watched that video.

5k miles on the clock and 3rd gear, clutch then strut top failure!
Having seen that recent video. My buying lust for a GT4 is officially...now over!!!

Great shame, but I just couldn't fathom the thought of a failure like that, especially when loading up the car whilst cornering. Tyres and structural integrity are paramount to being confident, when utilising the performance of a car like that.

gtsralph

1,187 posts

144 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Would insurance cover this? It is not an accident.

The Black car advert attributes the damage to "a pothole" which seems more likely than curb hopping.

Does the Clubsport have the same construction?

Cheib

23,250 posts

175 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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gtsralph said:
Would insurance cover this? It is not an accident.

The Black car advert attributes the damage to "a pothole" which seems more likely than curb hopping.

Does the Clubsport have the same construction?
You’d think an insurance company would say “manufacturing defect” ? Especially with a quick google search. Maybe not, I am guessing very policy specific.

ravon

599 posts

282 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Over seventy days on track in my very early build GT4, which is now fitted with slightly stiffer springs and reworked Bilstien Dampers, no issues to report. Having seen the first photographs of a strut top failure some two and a bit years ago I concluded I’d make a real effort to tidy up my track driving and avoid putting high stresses through the chassis by absolutely avoiding damaging curbs - its a worthwhile discipline to adopt from every aspect !

TDT

4,935 posts

119 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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gtsralph said:
Does the Clubsport have the same construction?
Believe the Clubsport also has some additional caps - but these do not protect against this happening.
Its something that can happen to any car... but it does appear to be a venerable part of the 9x1. This issue has also affected GT3's.
It just we don't hear about as many of those.
According to RL - Strut Top failure is unheard of in Germany...and Manthey, which looks after the race car have not seen it either.
So might be a bit of an echo chamber issue here.

As Tim says - try stay off the aggressive curbs on track, and keep a keen eye out for potholes on our decaying UK roads.

tonto1

441 posts

202 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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LotusMike2 said:
Hello, link to video, outcome should be interesting...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyXLsdOw0
Looks like Glasgow OPC. Potentially not painting themselves in glory.