718 Positive Vibes Thread...

[bcr5784]

MR2 Steve said:

Chassis - both cars on big wheels with no pasm. I think the 718 felt less crashy and I would be happy with no Pasm. On the 981 the ride was a little worse and a few big bumps jolted the wheels. I would want Pasm on a 981. Both handled superbly in circa 1.5 hours of driving. Much more compliant than my m135i.

Intersting that is exactly the opposite of my impression driving both cars - but another poster had the same impression as you. So I wonder what tyres both cars were on - did you notice? I certainly notice significant differences in ride/balance/steering feel between the various tyres I have tried.

[MR2 Steve]

The 718 I think was on Pirelli p zero. I didn't look on the Cayman though.

[DJMC]

718S Cayman on 20" Pirelli shod wheels and PASM had a noticeably poorer ride in standard PASM setting than my 981 Cayman on 20" Pirelli shod wheels and PASM. The 718 "jiggled" whereas the 981 smooths out the bumps.

The Porsche technician to hand on the 718 test drive day explained this would be the case as the 718's suspension has been tweaked to ride more firmly, PASM or no PASM.

[highscore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atesFt6hRI

A Brazilian review of the base 718 Boxster with some laps times by Rubens Barrichello. Pretty good results against other cars!

11:42 and 11:46 for the times (two leaderboards).

[bcr5784]

DJMC said:

718S Cayman on 20" Pirelli shod wheels and PASM had a noticeably poorer ride in standard PASM setting than my 981 Cayman on 20" Pirelli shod wheels and PASM. The 718 "jiggled" whereas the 981 smooths out the bumps.

The Porsche technician to hand on the 718 test drive day explained this would be the case as the 718's suspension has been tweaked to ride more firmly, PASM or no PASM.

I have certainly read that the 718 is a bit stiffer too. Another factor in the equation might be tyre pressures. For 20" wheels (only) Porsche quote two tyre pressures for the 981 - 33psi normally but 30psi as a "comfort" alternative - but limited to a (somewhat accademic) 165mph. I notice that the recommended tyre pressures for the 718 on 19" wheels are also 33psi - up from 30 of my 981. Having tried both on my 981S (PASM) you can certainly feel the difference over sharp edged ridges in the road.

[edo]

Interesting they saw a car with full/leather and sport-tex as "part cloth", which is a bit worrying?

That "base Boxster" must be north of 50k based on the options I can see!

[Sparkyhd]

Tomorrow is the build date for my Boxster so my positive vibes are increasing daily.

Slightly worried the build is on a Friday. If it's the afternoon and those Germans decide to visit the bierkeller for lunch will the doors fit snuggly?

[edo]

Sparkyhd said:

Tomorrow is the build date for my Boxster so my positive vibes are increasing daily.

Slightly worried the build is on a Friday. If it's the afternoon and those Germans decide to visit the bierkeller for lunch will the doors fit snuggly?

Zee germans work hard every day you'll be fine!

[Radish]

I attended the 718 Cayman Drive Event at Silverstone yesterday. I drove a 718 Cayman manual and a 718 Boxster S PDK - my daily driver is a Cayman 981 PDK (56,000mls in 3 yrs). Without banging on at length, all I would say is that the 718 is an all round improvement on the 981. Yes, the noise is different but the accessibility of the performance more than compensates for the loss of 2 cylinders and, if you are interested in saving a couple of bob, the base 718 Cayman has all the performance, and more, than most people would need on public roads.

Overall, a great day - with a nice lunch - that has helped me make up my mind about my next car which, of course, was Porsche's intention.

[The Mean Machine]

Radish said:

I attended the 718 Cayman Drive Event at Silverstone yesterday. I drove a 718 Cayman manual and a 718 Boxster S PDK - my daily driver is a Cayman 981 PDK (56,000mls in 3 yrs). Without banging on at length, all I would say is that the 718 is an all round improvement on the 981. Yes, the noise is different but the accessibility of the performance more than compensates for the loss of 2 cylinders and, if you are interested in saving a couple of bob, the base 718 Cayman has all the performance, and more, than most people would need on public roads.

Overall, a great day - with a nice lunch - that has helped me make up my mind about my next car which, of course, was Porsche's intention.

How I'd you find the manual Cayman? I am currently deciding between manual and PDK leaning more towards manual as not a daily driver. Hope to drive the manual when Cayman dealer cars are released at end of the month.

[Radish]

It was good although the feel of the change was not as smooth as a Boxster courtesy car I had last year but then the Cayman I drove yesterday had only about 350 mls on the clock. On balance, I prefer PDK but I'm old and knackered.

[bobo67]

FourPotPorsche said:

Guards is a great colour and would be my first choice if I had the balls...so settled for FOC white and black tips for the PSE.

Edited by FourPotPorsche on Thursday 25th August 21:52

Colour is a very personnel choice and everyone has the right to spec whichever colour they choose but don't understand if I had the balls to pick guards red I have owned 3 caymans and by long way it was guards red which looked the best and always turned heads would always spec it as first option you won't be disappointed your first thought should always be your last

[edo]

Does look good. I prefer Carmine, but still cant quite get straight in my head an extra 1600 for a slightly different non metallic!

[bobo67]

edo said:

Does look good. I prefer Carmine, but still cant quite get straight in my head an extra 1600 for a slightly different non metallic!

Carmine is nice also but £1600 extra Porsche are taking the piss -wouldn't be my choice but for something a bit different

[bobo67]

Or if whites your thing know it's a GT4 but still

[DJMC]

The Mean Machine said:

How I'd you find the manual Cayman? I am currently deciding between manual and PDK leaning more towards manual as not a daily driver. Hope to drive the manual when Cayman dealer cars are released at end of the month.

I drove a manual 718S Cayman a month or so ago. My 981 is a PDK. Turbo lag was just noticeable but once it got going it was fine. Some have said PDK would be better with the turbo 4 but I'm not sure why? If you like turbo 4 cylinder cars you'll like it.

[bcr5784]

There are 2 main reasons why lag is less likely to be an issue with pdk as opposed to a manual. On up changes with pdk - unlike with a manual - the changes are are so fast that the turbo has no time to spool down lag is unlikely to intrude. At low revs when lag might be a big problem the box will change down automatically again disguising the lag.

[nickfrog]

bobo67 said:

Colour is a very personnel choice

Yep and I sack anyone that doesn't have the same colour taste as me.

[edo]

bcr5784 said:

There are 2 main reasons why lag is less likely to be an issue with pdk as opposed to a manual. On up changes with pdk - unlike with a manual - the changes are are so fast that the turbo has no time to spool down lag is unlikely to intrude. At low revs when lag might be a big problem the box will change down automatically again disguising the lag.

the first point Porsche have you covered as it has a mechanism to keep it spinning to stop this (I dont fully understand the tech but..)

[bcr5784]

edo said:

the first point Porsche have you covered as it has a mechanism to keep it spinning to stop this (I dont fully understand the tech but..)

True, but if you like the pops and farts of the sports exhaust and are in sport mode then this mechanism is disabled.