U turn if you want to, Slippy's not for turning .....

U turn if you want to, Slippy's not for turning .....

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Slippydiff

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14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Don't know how I didn't notice this thread earlier confused
Well, let's think about that one Rich. My guess is,you may have been rather busy with "other stuff"..... smile

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
And to bring this thread back from behind the bike sheds


Harsh.... but oh so fair.

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Great to read that H is actually taking on a project of this nature; it restores faith that there are people out there buying into this brand for the right reasons


Well let's not get too carried away, as before any of the dull, unimportant stuff wink I'm having passenger compartment storage nets retrofitted (with contrast stitching, obviously) Then I'm going to ensure I have full ipod connectivity before removing the Cayman badge off the engine compartment cover, deciding I actually quite liked it, and then having to work out the best way to refit it without a jig. hehe

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
I'll support you all the way Henry
Is that technical/engineering support ? or support of a counselling nature ? (I'll need both in spades, just need to work out who's being tasked with what) biggrin

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
And wish you all the best in achieving exactly what YOU want from this project.
As a fellow "sufferer", your input will be willingly received Rich. smile

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
Defying convention and known norms doesn't always lead to disaster; sometimes, just sometimes, being brave and trying something different maketh the man car.
You've omitted the bit about it being an almost surefire route to financial ruin too Rich.

CarreraLightweightRacing said:
I like your thinking and using such a great base car should yield a return to the sleepless nights you so desire wink
Insomnia rocks ! ! beer However old age doesn't frown I think I'd have to pack a duvet and Thermos of Cadbury's hot chocolate before doing an all-nighter these days biggrin

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Have Aurok gone ?

http://www.aurok.com/

I always used them for Ohlins and they were great but no web site info atm !

The GT4 Ohlins is listed with no springs as there is a choice of Springs you can choose.
3 kits

no springs

or
Front 100 N/mm
Rear 120 N/mm

or
Front 120 N/mm
Rear 140 N/mm


HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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anyone tried intrax?
I have them on my m3 and I rate them better than kw clubsports (which I also have)

moonigan

2,138 posts

241 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Porsche911R said:
Have Aurok gone ?

http://www.aurok.com/

I always used them for Ohlins and they were great but no web site info atm !

The GT4 Ohlins is listed with no springs as there is a choice of Springs you can choose.
3 kits

no springs

or
Front 100 N/mm
Rear 120 N/mm

or
Front 120 N/mm
Rear 140 N/mm
Try Mick Gardner Racing. He's the main distributor for the UK: http://mickgardnerracing.com/

dom9

8,078 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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HokumPokum said:
anyone tried intrax?
I have them on my m3 and I rate them better than kw clubsports (which I also have)
I had them on my 996 Trackday project - had some worries about them leaking (they weren't) but they were great for me.

Adam Towler (now of Evo fame) drove it for a 911 & Porsche World article and rated them highly.

I'd have them again in a heart beat but I also rate Ohlins from my time as a race engineer.

Slippydiff

Original Poster:

14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Aurok ? A sad tale, of which I won't go in to too much detail. Apparently the proprietor was a genius when it came to suspension and damping, very much along the same lines as the founder of ExeTC dampers.
Regrettably, as I understand it, he now has early onset Alzheimer's and his son is now running the business with his father's help.
They were my first choice to build a bespoke set of dampers for the Cayman (and may still be, if they're able and willing) failing that Mick Gardner Racing would be the other choice.

I'm surprised the Yanks haven't got to the bottom of the spongy 987 brake pedal issue. Reading some Planet 9 threads indicates the issue existed with the Gen 1 cars too ?

Those that replaced the standard calipers with Stoptech or Brembo BBK's state the issue was wholly rectified successfully. Which would tend to indicate either the calipers are at fault and air pockets are getting trapped in them (unlikely) or excessive use of the ABS is possibly causing cavitation of the brake fluid and subsequently a spongy pedal.
Perhaps the more efficient aftermarket BBK's lessen ABS intervention ?



Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 13th June 14:45

Slippydiff

Original Poster:

14,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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Rocket. said:
Slippy thanks for your email heads up, I replied . Seems Ohlins are making a bit of a mess of their R+T product for 987, they neglected to tell their suppliers that the price does not include springs, so mine arrived at GC without them... Also seems some other issues with spring platforms too, so not just Bilstein and Eibach who couldnt give a monkeys about customers!
You're very welcome Charlie, there's nothing more frustrating than booking a slot with CG months or weeks in advance, taking time off work etc, only to find the job can't be undertaken due to the lack of or incorrect parts.
Hope the install goes well, will PM you to arrange meeting up once the Ohlins have been installed.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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anonymous said:
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Can't see that - nothing that flexes has changed - brake fluid is (for all practical purposes) incompressible. It's exactly analogous to saying that replacing the steering wheel with a smaller one (of the same construction) and expecting it to improve steering feel, which, of course, it doesn't . But not worth arguing - I'll let you have the last word.....


Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 13th June 20:21

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Tuesday 13th June 2017
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anonymous said:
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No cheap shots - if you can't see the analogy so be it. As I said I'd let you have the last word, because it was inevitable that you would respond - be satisfied with that.

Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 13th June 21:16


Edited by bcr5784 on Tuesday 13th June 21:29

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Ah, a thread with so much potential for interest has yet again derailed into a "keyboard-off" between PH's most "never wrong" warriors.

The inability to appreciate a world in which opinions other than your own exists astounds at times on here.

rolleyes

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Ah, a thread with so much potential for interest has yet again derailed into a "keyboard-off" between PH's most "never wrong" warriors.

The inability to appreciate a world in which opinions other than your own exists astounds at times on here.

rolleyes
You're right, I've resisted responding to mooses posts for a while - I should have continued to do so. I'm actually a big of champion of differing opinions and when people get heated about matters of opinion - Spanish/pdk or turbo/NA etc - I'm very much on the side of differing strokes for different folks. But when it comes to simple logic, there aren't actually two valid sides.


Edited by bcr5784 on Wednesday 14th June 08:16


Edited by bcr5784 on Wednesday 14th June 08:25

Slippydiff

Original Poster:

14,830 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Gentlemen, (specifically David, Jeremy and bcr5784) over time I hope this thread will develop into a useful tool for those wishing to upgrade their 987 Caymans.
If/when it does I'd like those viewing it in the future not to have to trawl through pages and posts such as those witnessed over the last two pages in this thread. Accordingly I've started a new thread on the topic of brake master cylinders here :

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

In an attempt to de-clutter this thread, I'd be deeply appreciative if you'd take the time (as I have this morning to start the new thread) to delete your posts on this matter from the last couple of pages. They won't be lost as they've been C & P t into the new thread linked to above.
Many thanks for your co-operation in advance.

Edited by Slippydiff on Wednesday 14th June 13:14

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Done ;-) now find a real solution to the brakes for every one :-) and the PSM yaw issues ;-)

Slippydiff

Original Poster:

14,830 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th June 2017
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Porsche911R said:
Done ;-) now find a real solution to the brakes for every one :-) and the PSM yaw issues ;-)
Thankyou smile

Car just delivered back from local OPC after gearshift cable replacement. Discounted labour rate 'cause it's an "older" car LOL biggrin

If you take a 993 into your OPC for repair, do they pay you to fix it ? nuts (I'm not complaining at the discounted rate BTW).

Heading over to the see the brake specialists with the old standard discs later this afternoon smile




frayz

2,629 posts

159 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Interesting about the cables.

My Cayman R is reasonably modified and one of the things that came with it (not fitted) was the Numeric cables and billet shifter mechanism.
These were fitted by RPM Technik at the previous owners request and then swiftly returned back to the Porsche OEM short shift as he reported the cold gear selection was too stiff and dint like it.

I have them brand new in my garage and am undecided if I should attempt to fit them back to the car? I'm also worried that the cables in my car may let me down at some point?

Any Cayman R owners had/used the Numeric cables/shifter care to share your thoughts on the setup?

Slippydiff

Original Poster:

14,830 posts

223 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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frayz said:
Interesting about the cables.

My Cayman R is reasonably modified and one of the things that came with it (not fitted) was the Numeric cables and billet shifter mechanism.
These were fitted by RPM Technik at the previous owners request and then swiftly returned back to the Porsche OEM short shift as he reported the cold gear selection was too stiff and dint like it.

I have them brand new in my garage and am undecided if I should attempt to fit them back to the car? I'm also worried that the cables in my car may let me down at some point?

Any Cayman R owners had/used the Numeric cables/shifter care to share your thoughts on the setup?
I'd fit the Numeric cables and flog the quickshift. You'll retain the the standard gearshift weight and throw, but gain some increased reliability and make the shift more positive (if the reviews are accuarate).

HokumPokum

2,051 posts

205 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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CAE shifter

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

265 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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nice starter project

very ltd numbers, £10k off a R price, manual, low miles for age, Spyder wheels (nice and light)


https://www.s-s-c.co.uk/porsche-cayman-987-s-black...


ajondyh

681 posts

124 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Porsche911R said:
nice starter project

very ltd numbers, £10k off a R price, manual, low miles for age, Spyder wheels (nice and light)


https://www.s-s-c.co.uk/porsche-cayman-987-s-black...
Looks like it's been jacked up eek

GT4P

5,203 posts

185 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Porsche911R said:
nice starter project

very ltd numbers, £10k off a R price, manual, low miles for age, Spyder wheels (nice and light)


https://www.s-s-c.co.uk/porsche-cayman-987-s-black...
Same 330hp as R its etc but with the crap PASM which can be replaced with better than R suspension and still be cheaper!