2020 Cayman / Engine

2020 Cayman / Engine

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Pepsi Max 996T

Original Poster:

43 posts

113 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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The new Cayman is due in 2020. As an owner of a 981 2.7, I am hoping against hope that Porsche thinks again about the engine options and develops a new 6 cyl option even if it needs to be turbo charged. If Audi can extract nearly 400 hp from a 5 cyl 2.5 then surely Porsche could do the same with 6 ? If they don't then I will have no choice but to look elsewhere. Sadly, the current 911 is out of my price range !!

Budflicker

3,799 posts

185 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Yep, I agree with Cmoose, a lot of the new stuff is losing its appeal to me.

So much so I recently bought a 987.2 Cayman R at a price that could have got me into a much newer 718 Cayman S or a brand new base 718.

Having got some miles in it I'm confident that I made the right choice.

It seems the only new cars Porsche make that I really would like to buy are the ones they won't sell to me.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

112 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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anonymous said:
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Personally I believe Porsche will keep the unique flat four / flat six configuration for their sports cars. Say what you like about the F4 turbo in 718 but I can’t believe Porsche would spend considerable amount of money developing a new engine just for the estimated 3 year lifespan of the 718.

CEREC1

31 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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My view is Porsche’s intentions are to seek buyers who to date haven’t owned a Porsche.
They won’t know what they are missing. I doubt many new 718 owners who haven’t experienced a flat 6 will be unimpressed with the cars.
That said I’ve just bought a sub 20K miles GTS and wouldn’t want anything else in the Porsche range. (Except maybe a GT4)

kilarney

483 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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What they need to do is work on the 4 pot to make it appealing the 6 pot is dead i suspect. Alfa managed it with the alfasud a truly engaging flat 4 so it is possible. I suspect they used a different firing order to porsche and subaru anyone know if this is the case

frayz

2,629 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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My guess is the next gen Cayster will still retain the non hybrid 718s F4 powertrain, however certainly the one that follows with be of mild hybrid setup... as will every new car within the next 5 years or so.
For next gen Cayster they will further refine the flat 4s emmisions, power and efficiency.

Not sure what the F4 motor wears at the mo turbo/exhaustwise, but surely a swap to fully equal length primaries and twinscroll turbo will elimate any "Subaruesqe" dugga dugga. I think the F4 motor has a heap of potential to be quite a special powerplant and could be quite exciting with a few tweeks.

Having said that, im keeping my NA 6 banger for a while biggrin

Edited by frayz on Tuesday 3rd July 07:42

Klippie

3,193 posts

146 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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For the majority of new to Porsche owners they wouldn't be interested in a older car anyway no matter how good its engine is with lease deals and PCP's being the norm now to buy cars why would they be interested in shelling out a bundle of cash when cheap money is available to borrow.

I fear for some owners of older models they are now stuck with what they have or move on to another brand all together...all for the sake of an engine..!!!

Good job the older cars are so good, why need to change anyway.

Buggyjam

539 posts

80 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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frayz said:
My guess is the next gen Cayster will still retain the non hybrid 718s F4 powertrain, however certainly the one that follows with be of mild hybrid setup... as will every new car within the next 5 years or so.
For next gen Cayster they will further refine the flat 4s emmisions, power and efficiency.

Not sure what the F4 motor wears at the mo turbo/exhaustwise, but surely a swap to fully equal length primaries and twinscroll turbo will elimate any "Subaruesqe" dugga dugga. I think the F4 motor has a heap of potential to be quite a special powerplant and could be quite exciting with a few tweeks.

Having said that, im keeping my NA 6 banger for a while biggrin

Edited by frayz on Tuesday 3rd July 07:42
Totally my hunch. F4T with at least 50 percent chance of hybrid. Next one after that definitely hybrid. To be honest I’ll be glad they keep the cayman at all!

As someone mentioned, they, like any firm will be after new buyers and hybrid will appeal to an average Joe non brand beardie. Car industry is in a state of rapid tech flux atm so going with market trends and wants is what they’re all about.

I love my F6 NA though biggrin