The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

[rkwm1]

TDT said:

So how does that conversation go with the OPC? - i'll order a 911 GTS, will bring it back in 3months, and order a Cayenne, will bring it back in 3months, order a panny.. bring it back in 3months... I'll have a GT car please. - ok sure Mr TDT.

Not really too sure on that yet, still trying to work it out. Guess it would be something like the above, but i'd guess the frequency has to be improved upon.

[Porsche911R]

anonymous said:

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I would be as the profit would buy me a GTS and Macan for the wife for free every year also. It's a fixed circle

[TDT]

Porsche911R said:

I would be as the profit would buy me a GTS and Macan for the wife for free every year also. It's a fixed circle

Lol - this has been my thinking.. upgrade my life for free!

(well at least my car-life)

[Porsche911R]

anonymous said:

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Of course you would, you get offered every GT car, the money funds a brand new Turbo S and Macan every year or 6 months also

net result you are buying on ave 12 cars every 4 years and is it's not cost you 1p, the profit covers the depreciation on the normal cars and then some.

the best clients are not buying 3 normal cars and no GT cars every year I can assure you.

it's easy to buy and run loads of cars if you get offered all the rare ones,

you telling me AndrewD and AV185 and the others on here are buying 4 normal cars every year ?

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 19th February 15:42

[GT4P]

The overs market is a fairly new phenomenon as even GT cars use to depreciate!
I think if Porsche built unlimited GT products I don't think they would sell out as the speculators and others would remove themselves from the market and Porsche would be in a situation with unsold cars! Even after all the hype of the 991T dealerships have had to order in stock cars as all slots were never filled hence the demos for sale!
I do disagree with the greed of having to own every latest GT product thus removing genuine long term Porsche fans from the chance of purchasing said cars,Porsche ownership was never like this and it's a sad way it has gone over the last few years!

[rkwm1]

anonymous said:

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Yes there are definitely OPC's who try to operate fairly. I know of a couple that will not give the same customers all the special cars regardless of how much they spend and are more interested in seeing how many miles these cars cover in order for them to consider you for the next models.

Although my OPC has some big spenders I was told that customers who have had the last GT3RS and current GT3 would not be given a GT3RS this time around and i'd be in with a very good chance of getting one(fingers crossed)!

It's all a gamble though!

[GameofCars]

I pass three other OPC's to buy from the OPC I prefer to deal with for sales. Like any business its down to who you deal with & great when you get a good level of service etc. Finger's crossed I'll get a GT4.

[RBT0]

Disgusting to hear some of the profit share hypothesis and actual "need to buy 6 or more" or "need good relationship with you local OPC " thing.

And people with lack of personal confidence being proud of being privileged? What?! Just stupid.

I'll tell you what guys...I am going to give Porsche one last chance then I am going to leave this f***king brand made out of hype, stupid privilege and cheap sports cars.

I am going to save and move up a league with McLaren or Used Ferrari if this is what they want, not going to pay one penny more the RRP which reflect the actual value of the car.

I am ok with my CGTS for at least next 12 months then I'll make a call depending on 1. GT4 being PDK 2. Getting a GT4 allocation. If I miss this boat, then will be time for an other brand, more exclusive and capable. Sorry Porsche, not going to chase/beg salesmen. To be fair my OPC is already aware.....but he doesn't care as his "profit model" is still working w/o me.

Edited by RBT0 on Monday 19th February 19:25

[bcr5784]

RBT0 said:

Disgusting to hear some of the profit share hypothesis and actual "need to buy 6 or more" or "need good relationship with you local OPC " thing.

And people with lack of personal confidence being proud of being privileged? What?! Just stupid.

I'll tell you what guys...I am going to give Porsche one last chance then I am going to leave this f***king brand made out of hype, stupid privilege and cheap sports cars.

I am going to save and move up a league with McLaren or Used Ferrari if this is what they want, not going to pay one penny more the RRP which reflect the actual value of the car.

I am ok with my CGTS for at least next 12 months then I'll make a call depending on 1. GT4 being PDK 2. Getting a GT4 allocation. If I miss this boat, then will be time for an other brand, more exclusive and capable. Sorry Porsche, not going to chase/beg salesmen. To be fair my OPC is already aware.....but he doesn't care as his "profit model" is still working w/o me.

Edited by RBT0 on Monday 19th February 19:25

Have a huge amount of sympathy with that post. I don't actually want a GT4, but the whole ethos of sucking up to your OPC or (effectively) bribing him to give (grant!) you the privilege of buying one of the "halo" cars gets up my nose and puts me off the brand.

[av185]

anonymous said:

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Although I call custard on whoever posted some time back on getting a late GT3 allocation and a 718 GT4 (no OPC could even guarantee even a remote possible slot pre deposit) without any buying history.

FWIW a pal of mine bought 3 Macans and 2 Panameras last year for his business together with a good buying history previously and was unable to get a GT3 slot.

Edited by av185 on Monday 19th February 20:29

[av185]

rkwm1 said:

1.2 GT3 = 40k overs
1.2GT3RS = 80K overs
GT2RS = 400K overs

Fair enough but don't underestimate the true cost of being allocated a car which is often a substantially reduced sub trade £ figure for the part exchange, GT Porsche or otherwise.

[fossilfuelled]

av185 said:

Although I call custard on whoever posted some time back on getting a late GT3 allocation and a 718 GT4 (no OPC could even guarantee even a remote possible slot pre deposit) without any buying history.

FWIW a pal of mine bought 3 Macans and 2 Panameras last year for his business together with a good buying history previously and was unable to get a GT3 slot.

Edited by av185 on Monday 19th February 20:29

PM me and i'll share the email with you. You can provide your own custard.

[DuncGTS]

RBT0 said:

Disgusting to hear some of the profit share hypothesis and actual "need to buy 6 or more" or "need good relationship with you local OPC " thing.

And people with lack of personal confidence being proud of being privileged? What?! Just stupid.

I'll tell you what guys...I am going to give Porsche one last chance then I am going to leave this f***king brand made out of hype, stupid privilege and cheap sports cars.

I am going to save and move up a league with McLaren or Used Ferrari if this is what they want, not going to pay one penny more the RRP which reflect the actual value of the car.

I am ok with my CGTS for at least next 12 months then I'll make a call depending on 1. GT4 being PDK 2. Getting a GT4 allocation. If I miss this boat, then will be time for an other brand, more exclusive and capable. Sorry Porsche, not going to chase/beg salesmen. To be fair my OPC is already aware.....but he doesn't care as his "profit model" is still working w/o me.

Edited by RBT0 on Monday 19th February 19:25

Feel much the same and a nice 570s looks good value, only thing that worries me is the cost per year to run the 570 over say a gt3 or turbo s
But as I said in an earlier post I won't be paying over for any GT car in the future

[av185]

DuncGTS said:

Feel much the same and a nice 570s looks good value, only thing that worries me is the cost per year to run the 570 over say a gt3 or turbo s
But as I said in an earlier post I won't be paying over for any GT car in the future

If depreciation I.e. running costs are a major worry to you then the last car I would want to buy would be a 570.

[GT4RS]

RBT0 said:

Disgusting to hear some of the profit share hypothesis and actual "need to buy 6 or more" or "need good relationship with you local OPC " thing.

And people with lack of personal confidence being proud of being privileged? What?! Just stupid.

I'll tell you what guys...I am going to give Porsche one last chance then I am going to leave this f***king brand made out of hype, stupid privilege and cheap sports cars.

I am going to save and move up a league with McLaren or Used Ferrari if this is what they want, not going to pay one penny more the RRP which reflect the actual value of the car.

I am ok with my CGTS for at least next 12 months then I'll make a call depending on 1. GT4 being PDK 2. Getting a GT4 allocation. If I miss this boat, then will be time for an other brand, more exclusive and capable. Sorry Porsche, not going to chase/beg salesmen. To be fair my OPC is already aware.....but he doesn't care as his "profit model" is still working w/o me.

Edited by RBT0 on Monday 19th February 19:25

I’m a little confused with your post, if it’s a brand made out of hype which make cheap sports cars why on earth would you just not sell your current Cayman and move on from the brand. If the cars are cheap and full of hype why would you even consider buying another one even if you could get allocated a Porsche GT car?

Are you only thinking of buying a 718 gt4 as it may hold its price well in the used car market?

[DuncGTS]

av185 said:

If depreciation I.e. running costs are a major worry to you then the last car I would want to buy would be a 570.

Yes I know but ar least I can get one without having to pay over for it and who knows how long the Porsche GT will be where it is and not go back to normal like most cars.
Like the look of the 570s and the way it goes just don't like the supper car costs that go with it and makes my GT4 look very cheap to run

[GT4RS]

DuncGTS said:

av185 said:

If depreciation I.e. running costs are a major worry to you then the last car I would want to buy would be a 570.

Yes I know but ar least I can get one without having to pay over for it and who knows how long the Porsche GT will be where it is and not go back to normal like most cars.
Like the look of the 570s and the way it goes just don't like the supper car costs that go with it and makes my GT4 look very cheap to run

You can’t compare a 570s with a gt4

Gt4 rrp sub 70k
570 rrp above 135k

Two diiferent cars for two different markets, but both are very capable in their own rights.

570s is a thing of beauty

[DuncGTS]

GT4RS said:

You can’t compare a 570s with a gt4

Gt4 rrp sub 70k
570 rrp above 135k

Two diiferent cars for two different markets, but both are very capable in their own rights.

570s is a thing of beauty

I know the prices but in a year's time a nice low mileage, nice spec 570s could be in the same price bracket as a new GT4 at overs.
But like I said at the moment I love my high spec GT4, had it over 2 years and hope to get the new GT4 if I am allowed and I want it over the one I have now and if not then I will make the decision of mod mine or more on.
But I don't fancy paying over for a GT3 991.2 or £120 + for an old nice club spec GT3 991.1 when for the same money you can get more, but only time will tell and now for me I am happy with what I have and enjoy what a great car the GT4 is and will always be

[GT4RS]

DuncGTS said:

I know the prices but in a year's time a nice low mileage, nice spec 570s could be in the same price bracket as a new GT4 at overs.
But like I said at the moment I love my high spec GT4, had it over 2 years and hope to get the new GT4 if I am allowed and I want it over the one I have now and if not then I will make the decision of mod mine or more on.
But I don't fancy paying over for a GT3 991.2 or £120 + for an old nice club spec GT3 991.1 when for the same money you can get more, but only time will tell and now for me I am happy with what I have and enjoy what a great car the GT4 is and will always be

I’ve watched the market for a very long time hoping the gt4 would fall a little more in price before jumping in on a used one, but being honest it hasn’t got to were I wanted it to. I guess the reason this is. what other used cars beat it in the 79k to 100k bracket. Yes you can move into a different league once you go above 125k but that’s hell of a difference between 79k to 125k.

Have you owned your gt4 from new, if so modding it may make sense if you track it?

991.1 gt3 CS is looking good buy at an opc for 120k at the moment if it comes with the 2 year porsche warranty.

I also like the 12c for 120k but the running cost and warranty issues scare the shi*t out of me.

I’m not sure what it is but something tells me poorly speed 570s will drop below 100k before these cars are 3 years old.

[DuncGTS]

GT4RS said:

I’ve watched the market for a very long time hoping the gt4 would fall a little more in price before jumping in on a used one, but being honest it hasn’t got to were I wanted it to. I guess the reason this is. what other used cars beat it in the 79k to 100k bracket. Yes you can move into a different league once you go above 125k but that’s hell of a difference between 79k to 125k.

Have you owned your gt4 from new, if so modding it may make sense if you track it?

991.1 gt3 CS is looking good buy at an opc for 120k at the moment if it comes with the 2 year porsche warranty.

I also like the 12c for 120k but the running cost and warranty issues scare the shi*t out of me.

I’m not sure what it is but something tells me poorly speed 570s will drop below 100k before these cars are 3 years old.

I am the second owner but had it from new if you know what I mean and my car from Porsche was in the 80s as it's a high spec car.
Also looked at the 12c as they have dropped a bit and carnt see them going down much more can they ? But like you the Mac thing does scare me a bit as it can cost as I have read all about it
Carnt see the GT4 dropping much as the GTS is still strong as are the others in the GT range and if they do drop then I think it will be the whole range
The only few cars that take my fancy over the GT4 are 991 turbo s just for the speed but think I would get bored of it quickly, GT3 as I see it the next step up and a few Macs, the 570s being one and the 650. Lotus no, R8 no, Ferrari no,.maybe go completely mad and get 1000 bhp Ultima and go kill myself, problem solved