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Twinfan said:
Some theories are suggesting the addition of a particle filter and changes in noise level regulations have led to the car being quieter and more muted than expected. How true that is I don't know, but it may explain the unexpected exhaust tone if it's naturally aspirated....
Interesting point... we all know that cars will be getting quieter - maybe this will be the future sound signature for Porsche NA Boxer 6'sTwinfan said:
Some theories are suggesting the addition of a particle filter and changes in noise level regulations have led to the car being quieter and more muted than expected. How true that is I don't know, but it may explain the unexpected exhaust tone if it's naturally aspirated....
You might well have hit the nail on the head there...My GT4 is ridiculously loud but if it was quieter I'd not be happy at all...
Fokker said:
Ok confirmation again today from Masseuse that it’s not a turbo. 100%.
So there’s no point deliberation any further. As Twinfan work out, it’s probably quieter due to the particle filter, which will be a shame. More profits for the aftermarket makers.
So can it be assumed that the likes of Sharkwerks will be able to do something about that without causing MOT/emissions problems?So there’s no point deliberation any further. As Twinfan work out, it’s probably quieter due to the particle filter, which will be a shame. More profits for the aftermarket makers.
Fokker said:
PhantomPH said:
So can it be assumed that the likes of Sharkwerks will be able to do something about that without causing MOT/emissions problems?
I'd imagine so but the Porsche warranty aspect will still be too much of an issue for some to take the plunge...I sometimes think that 'warranty' only really matters to those of us who are using a bit more of their disposable income to buy something special.
PhantomPH said:
He was told about careful running in and how (if you remember the tales at the time) that using launch control during that period would invalidate his warranty. That guy used LC twice on his way home from the dealer!
So presumably the ex PEC cars including GTs Porsche having endured major abuse from day 1 and 2000+ launch starts from new and retailed at various OPCs across the country are sold without warranty. No.
Very good points raised regarding the GPF. I hadn't even thought about this and seeing as we've never heard a car officially with the new technology we have no idea on how this affects acoustics.
My point on possible flat 4 was relating to an equal length manifold, take away the Subaru warble and add a GPF then it's a possibility. The videos posted don't quite sound like anything we've heard before.
The possibility of a F6T the more I think about it, are slim. The dimensions are the same as the previous MA1 engine, but I know for a fact they would need a very special solution for turbo placement for one reason, spark plug replacement. The job on a 981 is tight enough, but add a turbo into that 15cm gap will be almost impossible. Mount them elsewhere, only place will be after the driveshafts, throttle response will be terrible and architecture will be messy.
F6 N/A with GPF is my new bet.
My point on possible flat 4 was relating to an equal length manifold, take away the Subaru warble and add a GPF then it's a possibility. The videos posted don't quite sound like anything we've heard before.
The possibility of a F6T the more I think about it, are slim. The dimensions are the same as the previous MA1 engine, but I know for a fact they would need a very special solution for turbo placement for one reason, spark plug replacement. The job on a 981 is tight enough, but add a turbo into that 15cm gap will be almost impossible. Mount them elsewhere, only place will be after the driveshafts, throttle response will be terrible and architecture will be messy.
F6 N/A with GPF is my new bet.
av185 said:
anonymous said:
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To stick with the Nissan, that guy used his like it was a £6k Fiesta from Autotrader. By contrast, my neighbour bought a GTR and it hardly ever left his drive. He even bought a well used old Subaru Forester that became his daily car because the costs of using the GTR (including mileage related increased depreciation, short servicing intervals, etc, etc) just caught him out completely.
It’s that age old thing about being able to afford to buy a car not always meaning you can afford to run it.
Anyway...
TrackNutz said:
Very good points raised regarding the GPF. I hadn't even thought about this and seeing as we've never heard a car officially with the new technology we have no idea on how this affects acoustics.
My point on possible flat 4 was relating to an equal length manifold, take away the Subaru warble and add a GPF then it's a possibility. The videos posted don't quite sound like anything we've heard before.
The possibility of a F6T the more I think about it, are slim. The dimensions are the same as the previous MA1 engine, but I know for a fact they would need a very special solution for turbo placement for one reason, spark plug replacement. The job on a 981 is tight enough, but add a turbo into that 15cm gap will be almost impossible. Mount them elsewhere, only place will be after the driveshafts, throttle response will be terrible and architecture will be messy.
F6 N/A with GPF is my new bet.
The masseuse has confirmed this so you win your bet My point on possible flat 4 was relating to an equal length manifold, take away the Subaru warble and add a GPF then it's a possibility. The videos posted don't quite sound like anything we've heard before.
The possibility of a F6T the more I think about it, are slim. The dimensions are the same as the previous MA1 engine, but I know for a fact they would need a very special solution for turbo placement for one reason, spark plug replacement. The job on a 981 is tight enough, but add a turbo into that 15cm gap will be almost impossible. Mount them elsewhere, only place will be after the driveshafts, throttle response will be terrible and architecture will be messy.
F6 N/A with GPF is my new bet.
More video of the Spyder in action here: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/video/porsche-...
Note is definitely muffled, so that is with particulate filter or at least one turbo.
There was one run up the revs where it sounded like a 6 of old from about 36sec to 40secs.
But then the downshift at 46secs... the burbles and tone sounds like a more refined, more specially tuned F4T would - not more boost - but better internals, equal length headers.
There was one run up the revs where it sounded like a 6 of old from about 36sec to 40secs.
But then the downshift at 46secs... the burbles and tone sounds like a more refined, more specially tuned F4T would - not more boost - but better internals, equal length headers.
Edited by TDT on Tuesday 24th April 21:41
That IS a weird sounding motor....!!
You’d have to go with turbo really: the pops/bangs/deep muffled tone.... Not like ANYTHING N/A I’ve ever heard....
Can this “Particulate Filter” thingy REALLY make such a huge difference to engine sound....?? So much so it sounds most definitely like a turbo...?!? I’d really have thought not.....
You’d have to go with turbo really: the pops/bangs/deep muffled tone.... Not like ANYTHING N/A I’ve ever heard....
Can this “Particulate Filter” thingy REALLY make such a huge difference to engine sound....?? So much so it sounds most definitely like a turbo...?!? I’d really have thought not.....
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