The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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rkwm1 said:
Based on these pictures and the last spyder/gt4 similarities, i'd say the first pics i posted are of the GT4 and the recent ones are GT4RS.

Perhaps a GT4/Spyder with F4T and GT4RS with 4.0?

woohoo
IMHO the first pics are the finished car. The second pics are an earlier development mule with bodywork they've decided against - it's clearly much more roughly finished.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
Exhaust and diffuser are finished IMHO. No tape/bodges, it looks showroom ready to me.

GT3 RS and GT4 were launched at the same Geneva show last time (2015): https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/geneva-in...
I wonder if the new style exhaust on these spy shots are someone linked to the much mooted new EEC emissions regs which is compulsory for all new EU built cars from September 2018.

TDT

4,950 posts

120 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Have to say... the Spyder looks good...purposeful and relatively clean in comparison to some of the latest releases(GT2RS I’m talking about you!!)
I’d think about buying it on looks and roof-less-ness alone...even if it came with a Flat 6/4 Turbo, so long as they make it sound good.
Spyder is a different proposition to the GT car so they is more leeway with the power unit, although NA is usually preferable for al fresco driving experience

Edited by TDT on Friday 17th November 09:09

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
IMHO the first pics are the finished car. The second pics are an earlier development mule with bodywork they've decided against - it's clearly much more roughly finished.
I cant see why they would have allowed photos to be taken of the second one if its not to be built. These "spy shots" are probably set up by Porsche to start building the excitement, hence no video taken and no sound available. If they were taken by a enthusiast, the person who took them must know the whole Porsche owners community is anxiously waiting to find out which engine it is going to get!

Guess we'll find out in next 2-3 months.


Edited by rkwm1 on Friday 17th November 09:09

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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rkwm1 said:
I cant see why they would have allowed photos to be taken of the second one if its not to be built. These "spy shots" are probably set up by Porsche to start building the excitement, hence no video taken and no sound available. If they were taken by a enthusiast, the person who took them must know the whole Porsche owners community is anxiously waiting to find out which engine it is going to get!
There are regular spy-shot takers who hang out near the 'Ring and the Porsche factory (among others).

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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anonymous said:
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The 718 is a four cylinder because Porsche wanted it to be. If they'd wanted a NASP six or a turbo six in there they'd have made it fit hehe

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
There are regular spy-shot takers who hang out near the 'Ring and the Porsche factory (among others).
They need to get themselves a camcorder then!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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rkwm1 said:
I cant see why they would have allowed photos to be taken of the second one if its not to be built. These "spy shots" are probably set up by Porsche to start building the excitement, hence no video taken and no sound available. If they were taken by a enthusiast, the person who took them must know the whole Porsche owners community is anxiously waiting to find out which engine it is going to get!
Allowed, it's Porsche who release them ;-)

you can time the release shots like clockwork after each model comes out.

Dele

13 posts

80 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Glad they're making one, hope its got a N/A 6, now must work harder this year!

JAhmed

41 posts

90 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I think the GTS/Sport Design bumper is still for mule purposes only. 981 GT4/Spyder mules also sported GTS front and rear ends until very close to the actual release, if memory serves. Suspect the Spyder will once again share it's nose with the GT4.

I am also hoping for a Geneva launch, but dealer principal seems to think it is more likely going to be Frankfurt...they may want to focus all of the attention on Geneva at the GT3RS...

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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JAhmed said:
I think the GTS/Sport Design bumper is still for mule purposes only. 981 GT4/Spyder mules also sported GTS front and rear ends until very close to the actual release, if memory serves. Suspect the Spyder will once again share it's nose with the GT4.

I am also hoping for a Geneva launch, but dealer principal seems to think it is more likely going to be Frankfurt...they may want to focus all of the attention on Geneva at the GT3RS...
As late as September next year for launch? So realistically, early 2019 for the first cars to land in owners' hands, then. Seems a while away, but I suppose we are almost in to 2018 already, so...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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JAhmed said:
I think the GTS/Sport Design bumper is still for mule purposes only. 981 GT4/Spyder mules also sported GTS front and rear ends until very close to the actual release, if memory serves. Suspect the Spyder will once again share it's nose with the GT4.
I've just checked Google images from 2014/2015 - all GT4 mules have the 'correct' GT4 nose as do all Spyder mules. One of the Spyders had a non-diffuser rear bumper but the fronts were always the same as the finished car.

Based on that, I'd say the GTS front end is very likely what we'll get given that the most finished mules seem to have it. It would be odd to test the engine without the correct cooling provided by the front bumper's air flow.

TDT

4,950 posts

120 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Twinfan said:
I've just checked Google images from 2014/2015 - all GT4 mules have the 'correct' GT4 nose as do all Spyder mules. One of the Spyders had a non-diffuser rear bumper but the fronts were always the same as the finished car.

Based on that, I'd say the GTS front end is very likely what we'll get given that the most finished mules seem to have it. It would be odd to test the engine without the correct cooling provided by the front bumper's air flow.
Maybe with the Turbo engine the front end is of less consequence!. tongue out

(obviously i know that Turbo engine heat management is always an issue... ^ its called a joke.)

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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TDT said:
Maybe with the Turbo engine the front end is of less consequence!. tongue out

(obviously i know that Turbo engine heat management is always an issue... ^ its called a joke.)
laugh

It's certainly odd to see the GTS front end on what looks like the two finished cars.....

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Unless the above poster is right and it's still thick end of a year away from launch. Plenty of time to change front end styling.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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True, but that's not what Porsche have done before. GT3, GT3 RS, GT4 and Spyder mules that I've seen over the last few years have always had the "correct" bumpers on for development. Surely if they're going to use a different one in production they'll need to test air flow, handling, fitment etc.

Doesn't make sense to me, but I'll shut up about it now!

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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The Spyder looks finished to me.

no gaffer tape here.






PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Anyone else find it strange that they've gone to the effort of blacking out the bonnet badge, only to leave a huge 'PORSCHE' script across the back? smile

That one isn't ready anyway - it's got a load of writing in the windscreen.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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If the Spyder is finished, then so is the GT4...




Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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anonymous said:
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If they are testing trick aero though which it seems they are with that ugly diffuser , the bumpers have got to be correct to get the right airflow.

normally these things do 100k miles with laptops and all the crap in them to get as much data as possible.