The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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JasonSteel

566 posts

97 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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i'd be surprised if the Spyder came out with the GTS front bumper - would be too much contrast between the hardcore rear and the standard front.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I do find it a bit odd that some of the development cars look to be finished with the GTS front bumper.
I first thought that perhaps a 'cooking' GT4 might could come with less front aero and that the one we see with a 'proper' front bumper could be a GT4 RS... But then why would they launch a GT4 with a GTS front? It looks a bit pants.s

As a result the one you see with a more GT4 style front must be the final design. Looks good to me... Very purposeful and aggressive... These sort of details are perhaps why my masseuse said that they really should have called it an RS.

Its the motor that is really intriguing me at the moment though as I hear its not just a version of the old Carrera S 3.8 and that its more special. Al this twittering I am hearing could well see the price hike I was told about. Newly developed motor cold well see a 75 - 80k base price?

Its getting interesting now... smile


Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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woollyjoe said:
looks pretty finished to me

Gaffa, rough bits, looks like an earlier mule to me. If that's the latest spec, why are the "showroom immaculate" mules knocking about? Doesn't make sense to me, but then neither does a GTS front end. Odd. AS I said earlier, Porsche haven't radically changed front ends compared to mules on a GT model in the recent past. That's not to say they won't, but it would be unusual for them.

More pics over the next weeks/months should tell us more.

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I think the first pic with GTS front is GT4 and the second pic is GT4RS.

I can't see any reason why they would be releasing spy shots of the same car with different fronts.

I think we'll see both cars at Geneva in March possibly with GT3RS.



If you look at the spy shots of the GT3RS it has duck tape in the same area as on the second set of pics. For this reason i think this will be a GT4RS. Also according to Fokkers source the new car will be quite a bit more expensive than the last GT4 with carbon and GT3 engine which also leads me to think it will be GT4RS.

I could be totally wrong again. I thought the GT4RS was going to be launched this year in March! getmecoat

GT4P

5,220 posts

186 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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I reckon early Feb.2018 we will know a lot more!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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rkwm1 said:
I think the first pic with GTS front is GT4 and the second pic is GT4RS
It could explain the GTS front on both the GT4 and Spyder, and why the 'RS' is less finished - it's further down the line for release.

Still can't see an RS happening though.

Phooey

12,636 posts

170 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Can’t see a Cayman being given the RS letters. Also can’t see a massive price hike - just the usual 5+% new model premium. Exhausts / bumpers mean nothing either - it’s a mule. I’m 90% confident it’ll stay NA from either a 3.8 or 4.0 (more thinking 3.8 than 4.0 though) and top out at 400hp. I reckon we’ll also see more built too.

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Well as nobody else thinks GT4RS is coming, i should get the first one!

woohoo


Navanod

149 posts

172 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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People... Mules are Mules... They are borrowing parts from other models (GTS) to disguise what is really happening. It's not that difficult to understand. The 981 GT4/Spyder was never on the road in full production form (Side Intake Scoops, Rear Spoiler and Rear Diffuser were not revealed until official debut).

rkwm1

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1,476 posts

103 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Navanod said:
People... Mules are Mules... They are borrowing parts from other models (GTS) to disguise what is really happening. It's not that difficult to understand. The 981 GT4/Spyder was never on the road in full production form (Side Intake Scoops, Rear Spoiler and Rear Diffuser were not revealed until official debut).


Image from May 2014, 10 months before launch. Pretty much the same car that i got delivered to me with exception of wheels, Side scoops and spoiler ends.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Exactly the points I've been making - major bumper changes have never happened in recent times.

Navanod

149 posts

172 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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rkwm1 said:


Image from May 2014, 10 months before launch. Pretty much the same car that i got delivered to me with exception of wheels, Side scoops and spoiler ends.
That you know of... there we’re early mules running around prior. We are more than a year away from debut. GTS hasn’t even had its full launch yet.

ags11

570 posts

141 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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DP at my local reckons no new car next year- which hints to Frankfurt. How accurate this is remains to be seen...

gtsralph

1,189 posts

145 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Phooey said:
...Also can’t see a massive price hike - just the usual 5+% new model premium....
Caymans now less expensive than Boxster so same as Gen 1 GT4 but Spyder 10% increase

Phooey said:
....I reckon we’ll also see more built too....
I think it is also about market allocations so not necessarily more for UK

isaldiri

18,706 posts

169 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Navanod said:
That you know of... there we’re early mules running around prior. We are more than a year away from debut. GTS hasn’t even had its full launch yet.
Agreed, i think the car is some ways yet from a proper release. the 991.2 gt3rs is pretty much a dead cert for Geneva as multiple mules have been seen for a while and banging around the 'ring. That's not the case for any prospective .2 gt4.

JAhmed

41 posts

90 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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Navanod said:
People... Mules are Mules... They are borrowing parts from other models (GTS) to disguise what is really happening. It's not that difficult to understand. The 981 GT4/Spyder was never on the road in full production form (Side Intake Scoops, Rear Spoiler and Rear Diffuser were not revealed until official debut).
Yup, I think people are reading wayyyy too far into the car looking "showroom ready". We are more likely than not a year out from release...as I stated earlier, Frankfurt/Rennsport 2018 makes sense for a release time frame. I do agree that perhaps the RS will be the focus at Geneva. I also think, as cmoose and 063 981510 have said, that the GT4 and Spyder will share most of their body work. Oh well, we can go round and round in circles, but no one will really know until a few months from now.

champ19ns

162 posts

102 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Autocar have confirmed its a detuned GT3 4.0 engine

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsch...

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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champ19ns said:
Autocar have confirmed its a detuned GT3 4.0 engine

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsch...
I'll have to buy my masseuse a drink... she's bloody well on the ball with these things... smile

425bhp is slightly up on what I was thinking and quite a jump from the 375 - 380 in the old Spyder GT4.
Great to see the GT3's 4.0 being fitted. As my masseuse said, it has some different internals so are they reducing its power mechanically rather than just using smaller throttle bodes and maps? I heard it has different cams and valves so perhaps not quite such a rev monster as the Gt3? Lets just hope its not too long in the gearing department and that Porsche have again listened to us which they are pretty good at doing these dayssmile

Sounds awesome smile


Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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it's still hard to see it, all these reviews are made up click bait atm

adding 50bhp to a Spyder !

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Porsche911R said:
it's still hard to see it, all these reviews are made up click bait atm

adding 50bhp to a Spyder !
Its true so believe it. I was told ages ago. 425 I agree is a good hike but when using the new 4 litre, you can't dumb it down so much. Autocar are I think on the money with the power. GT4 could see 430bhp.

Why don't you cancel your GT3 allocation and go for one of these instead.
Give the GT3 to someone who really wants one? Just a though smile