The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
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From Porsche point of view, surely the new GT4 has to be turbo? Doesn't it?
Here's my thinking if all future GT and therefor now all Porsche cars are Turbo, wouldn't it be better for Porsche to test the water with the not as important GT4 and let them bombshell drop before the new 992 GT3 turbo arrives?
Here's my thinking if all future GT and therefor now all Porsche cars are Turbo, wouldn't it be better for Porsche to test the water with the not as important GT4 and let them bombshell drop before the new 992 GT3 turbo arrives?
diffstar said:
From Porsche point of view, surely the new GT4 has to be turbo? Doesn't it?
Here's my thinking if all future GT and therefor now all Porsche cars are Turbo, wouldn't it be better for Porsche to test the water with the not as important GT4 and let them bombshell drop before the new 992 GT3 turbo arrives?
Thats what i thought they would have done first time around, as the 718 was already available.Here's my thinking if all future GT and therefor now all Porsche cars are Turbo, wouldn't it be better for Porsche to test the water with the not as important GT4 and let them bombshell drop before the new 992 GT3 turbo arrives?
Perhaps they should have and they wouldn't have had such a struggle to get the new version out now.
anonymous said:
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For whats its worth my OPC sales contact told me that future GT3's would be turbo and the last NASP GT car would be the GT4RS. - He sighted performance, the need to keep up with the competition is important and with emissions standards only going one way NASP would no longer be viable.Is it true, who knows!
anonymous said:
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No indications from Porsche, I just think it is where it is all going what with emissions, competitors, power etc.Think you will be lucky to buy a new car in 10 years that is not a hybrid! Let alone naturally aspirated, forget it! You may find some very niche products, but Porsche is not one of them.
All this talk about the new 4 L engine, now looks like it's not going to happen.
Going X51 on the old 3.8 for the CS is that just so Porsche can run the old 3.8 engine but with a bit more power and with out having to change the regs on it ?, also does that mean it can race them as it's the old spec car and bring out a completely different engine car for the 718 GT4 and not run into problems for the race teams.
Also what would be needed to get the old 3.8 with x51 heads to meet the new regs so that it can be fitted in a road car, as isnt that engine dead these days, as isnt that one of the reasons Porsche dropped it from the range ?
I think Porsche would love to still use a N.A. engine, but as time goes on it's getting more difficult to Do just that and don't forget it wasnt that long ago that Porsche rushed out all the 4 L engine cars while they could still sell them and guess that that engine is now gone for good.
Turbo and hybrid is the only thing that manufacturers are investing in these days and spending millions on sorting an old N.A. engine out, that will be down on power, down on torque and up on emission and fuel use, is not great.
Lots complained about the lack off power in the GT4 and that was almost 3 years ago, cars have moved on in that time and a new GT4 with just a bit more top end power is going to struggle against the 718 GTS on the road and even more so if it's not PDK. If we are not going to get more low down grunt and more top end then I would rather have a new higher reving turbocharged 4 pot engine or the engine from the new 911.2 GTS as that would push the car along very nicely and make up for the lack off noise.
Having drivern a 911 GTS with the turbo engine, I do feel that would be a fantastic engine for the GT4, but carnt quite see it happening as it would be to quick and a slight tune would easy see it lapping quicker than the GT3, but time will tell
Going X51 on the old 3.8 for the CS is that just so Porsche can run the old 3.8 engine but with a bit more power and with out having to change the regs on it ?, also does that mean it can race them as it's the old spec car and bring out a completely different engine car for the 718 GT4 and not run into problems for the race teams.
Also what would be needed to get the old 3.8 with x51 heads to meet the new regs so that it can be fitted in a road car, as isnt that engine dead these days, as isnt that one of the reasons Porsche dropped it from the range ?
I think Porsche would love to still use a N.A. engine, but as time goes on it's getting more difficult to Do just that and don't forget it wasnt that long ago that Porsche rushed out all the 4 L engine cars while they could still sell them and guess that that engine is now gone for good.
Turbo and hybrid is the only thing that manufacturers are investing in these days and spending millions on sorting an old N.A. engine out, that will be down on power, down on torque and up on emission and fuel use, is not great.
Lots complained about the lack off power in the GT4 and that was almost 3 years ago, cars have moved on in that time and a new GT4 with just a bit more top end power is going to struggle against the 718 GTS on the road and even more so if it's not PDK. If we are not going to get more low down grunt and more top end then I would rather have a new higher reving turbocharged 4 pot engine or the engine from the new 911.2 GTS as that would push the car along very nicely and make up for the lack off noise.
Having drivern a 911 GTS with the turbo engine, I do feel that would be a fantastic engine for the GT4, but carnt quite see it happening as it would be to quick and a slight tune would easy see it lapping quicker than the GT3, but time will tell
Taffy66 said:
And to further fuel this conspiracy, my OPC sales guy has heard from a reliable source that the new Spyder is going to be a Turbo.Porsche are really struggling ATM on getting their NASPs to comply with the new WLTP regs.
I think we have the same OPC and my sales guy has said different?
GT4RS said:
Taffy66 said:
And to further fuel this conspiracy, my OPC sales guy has heard from a reliable source that the new Spyder is going to be a Turbo.Porsche are really struggling ATM on getting their NASPs to comply with the new WLTP regs.
I think we have the same OPC and my sales guy has said different?
Twinfan said:
The theory is exhaust placement has been changed to allow for some under body aero.
Interested, I wasn’t aware of that. Looking at the images of the different colour test mules its always been the exhaust pipes which have looked slightly out of place. There’s an image about of what looks like finished car on a transporter which has a white protective cover across the exhaust pipes, I’m hoping they have covered these on this finished car for a reason.
Nisher said:
GT4RS said:
There’s an image about of what looks like finished car on a transporter which has a white protective cover across the exhaust pipes, I’m hoping they have covered these on this finished car for a reason.
Can you post this image, or a link?
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