The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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Steve Rance

5,448 posts

232 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Presumably this thread should be renamed ‘the 718 GT4 will be arriving later than you think’... ?

FTW

532 posts

177 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Steve Rance said:
Presumably this thread should be renamed ‘the 718 GT4 will be arriving later than you think’... ?
laugh

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av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Yep and still reckon UK cars will probably not be delivered until 2020.

Anyway a Spring car is always better than a winter one. Better driving weather and a new plate too.

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
Gear boxes will be revised in the new 718 gt4
Do you work for the gearbox manafacture?
No I don’t have to work.

isaldiri

18,608 posts

169 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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hunter 66 said:
We were talking about the clubsport hence track car , and the only Ferrari I have , hence been able to look underneath is a GT3 version , although yes it has a wing .But the 430 and 458 Challenge cars ( clubsport version ) did not have one initially ( later pack ) .
But it's not exactly the same thing. The 430 and 458 challenge cars are a one make series competition car. They are not required to compete against cars that may or may not have extra downforce ie wings. The 430 gt2 or gtc cars which did race other marques definitely did have a rear wing for example.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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anonymous said:
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Again you’re probably right , but there is an argument that they are such different feeling things that actually the speed is only one part of the mix - it’s certainly not why I like driving GT cars - they are greater than the sum of thier parts IMHO - I really like them smile

finmac

1,522 posts

239 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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As a current non GT4 owner who has had a LOI in for years for this mega hyped new model I have been following this thread on and off since it started.

I can’t help but read this latest news with interest and If as it now appears this car is just quite a simple tweak on the current one and not the much hyped GT3 4.0 motor then that leaves me asking:

1. How much will they charge for the new car (can’t be a massive premium over the old one)?
2. What effect will however many UK ones they make (400/500?) extra have on residual values of the old models and will there be an “overs” market on the new car at all?
3. And most importantly - Do I actually still want one or are there better ways to spend £70K plus!

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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anonymous said:
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I really agree with this - recently borrowed a 718 Boxster GTS when my car was in for a service and I loved the chassis and everything about how it felt - However I really, really didn’t like the engine - I’d never ever buy a 718 (unless NA) smile

RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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TDT said:
Yep that undertray looks like the 718 equivalent of the 911R/991.2 GT3/RS undertray that was used to give a little bit of ‘negative lift’ or lift reduction without adding any drag.
GT3 .2 undertray with fins it’s a different league.

On the latest picture posted the central tunnel looks better although pretty hand made...

Need to wait the road car for final judgement.

hunter 66

3,910 posts

221 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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isaldiri said:
But it's not exactly the same thing. The 430 and 458 challenge cars are a one make series competition car. They are not required to compete against cars that may or may not have extra downforce ie wings. The 430 gt2 or gtc cars which did race other marques definitely did have a rear wing for example.
Yeah Ferrari under car aero is just to make money , as not low enough , it is not ground effects ( although that was interesting to drive ) but the air flow under the car so ride height not an issue.

Pista rear diffuser , guess with a flat floor and space over the diffuser where the air is channeled . We have a ramp and always good to look the underside of different race cars .
Anyway as usual whatever ....


av185

18,514 posts

128 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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finmac said:
As a current non GT4 owner who has had a LOI in for years for this mega hyped new model I have been following this thread on and off since it started.

I can’t help but read this latest news with interest and If as it now appears this car is just quite a simple tweak on the current one and not the much hyped GT3 4.0 motor then that leaves me asking:

1. How much will they charge for the new car (can’t be a massive premium over the old one)?
2. What effect will however many UK ones they make (400/500?) extra have on residual values of the old models and will there be an “overs” market on the new car at all?
3. And most importantly - Do I actually still want one or are there better ways to spend £70K plus!
1. c£10k more expensive than the 981 c£75k is expected.

2. Slightly higher numbers than the 981 GT4 around 650 expected for the UK.

Initial cars flipped for c£110k to £115k plus. Spec dependent.

No major affects on 981GT4 residuals anticipated in the short to medium term.

3. Don't know.

Wouldn't get too excited about the probabilities of a 4.0 GT3 engine in the GT4. If it is this engine it will be massively detuned and strangled with horrific economy, not unlike the 981 C2S lump.

In many ways a higher revving powerkit 3.8 would be preferable imo.

ags11

569 posts

141 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Was the long gearing in the GT4 an emissions tool or was it to protect the 911? Maybe a mixture of both?
The reason I ask is, will the new particle filter take care of all the emission problems? Ie negating the need for long gearing?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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These cars have blistering real world performance in second gear. While others are shuffling for a gear change the 981 just revs out nicely.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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anonymous said:
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Yep, wouldn't disagree with that smile

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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GT4RS said:
No I don’t have to work.
I would give it a go.

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Porsche911R said:
GT4RS said:
No I don’t have to work.
I would give it a go.
Let me check my diary.

GT4RS

4,441 posts

198 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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According to another forum the new gt4 now uses block from the 991.2 gt3 and will also be available in Pdk!


ClioTrophy55

312 posts

101 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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RSVP911 said:
Cheib said:
HighwayStar said:
Cheib said:
johnycarrera said:
Regardless of figures and gearing, what’s the likelihood of Porsche making a new manual GT4 slower than the 718 PDK GTS?

Can’t see that happening
I agree with that....not thought about it but it’s a good point. You can’t have a GT car having lesser performed than a GTS. Looking at the numbers the GTS isquoted as 4.3 secs and the 981 GT4 4.4. Small power bump of 718 GT4 might see it a bit faster,
It’s a different driving experience. There’s not a in it between the GT3 and a Turbo S.
I doubt most GT4 customers would care if if it’s was faster... the GTS boys would be the ones making a song and dance about it. wink
I think the marketing people at Porsche probably care. The Turbo S is faster than a GT3....that's a given given its traction and power advantage. A 911 GTS isn't. There isn't an equivalent Turbo S in the Cayman range.
Hi chap - happy NY - I think a 991.2 GTS PDK is quicker off the mark than a 991.2 GT3 Manual - May be wrong and in fairness I’m comparing apples and pears - thinking about it, no idea why I posted really smile
I had both 991.2 GTS PDK and 991.2 GT3 manual. You're right. Of GT3, GT4 and GTS only the GTS remains. But it is in the best colour of course (Crayon).

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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For those who doubted me. 100% confirmation today that the road going GT4 doesn’t have the clubsports 3.8.

Power is apparently almost the same though. I don’t have an exact figure.

RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Monday 14th January 2019
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Fokker said:
For those who doubted me. 100% confirmation today that the road going GT4 doesn’t have the clubsports 3.8.

Power is apparently almost the same though. I don’t have an exact figure.
What about pdk?