The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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JayK12

2,324 posts

203 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Olderandwiser22 said:
So I’ve managed to spec mine to £84k.... I intend to drive the thing - 10-12k a year - not like many of you pussies out there.
Hopefully see you on track with the rest of the "pussies" then!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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In 3 years a lot could change - economy, electric cars etc etc.

£50k might be a sensible estimate?

bcr5784

7,120 posts

146 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Olderandwiser22 said:
So I’ve managed to spec mine to £84k.... I intend to drive the thing - 10-12k a year - not like many of you pussies out there.

White, buckets, club sport, chrono, black with silver stitching, silver belts.

Anyone want to hazard a guess to what it will be worth in 3 years - I’m thinking £37k?

That’s approx 50% depreciation from the £75k new price - cause we all know the extras are worth squat on trade in.

And let’s be realistic about this - no over inflated estimates please.
Impossible to even guess unless you know how many they are going to produce and if they are going to produce a 718C/6 and 718B/6. If they produce all those in numbers to satisfy the market the GT4 and Spyder will lose much of their kudos and they (and the 981 Spyder/GT4 - and probably GTS) will depreciate just like any other model in the range. Puttting on above average miles will obviously make things worse.

Olderandwiser22

176 posts

92 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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10-12k above average???


My goodness!


Joehow

604 posts

116 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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I purchased a Cayman GTS 3 years ago from the dealer that I hope to get a 718 GT4 or Spyder from.

I am 31 now and have had all my cars serviced there, lent the dealer a car for a launch turned up to photoshoots when asked.

Yes I put a LOI in for the new car when I bought the GTS but thats all. Upon the new car being released I followed this up and have been told I have a fairly good chance depending on total allocation.

I have been told this is through:
- Proper use of cars and they seem to value this
- Age, they're looking to attract a younger customer
-Brand loyalty, I may have only bought one car through them but for the past 5 years all I have had is Porsches from a 986 Boxster to 996 GT3 and had them serviced at said dealer.
-Low likelihood to flip due to not having a 'collection' of cars

To answer the snobbery of the dealers comment earlier I have never experienced this, my OPC even when I had my 986 at 25 treated me like I was having a GT3 serviced. Then when I bought my Cayman GTS I was treated really well and not looked down on at all.

This is through Tonbridge who have always been brilliant.

Joe Magness in the service department has dug me out of many a hole.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Olderandwiser22 said:
10-12k above average???

My goodness!
Above average for most Porsche sportscars, obviously not above average for most Golf TDIs (for example).

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Olderandwiser22 said:
So I’ve managed to spec mine to £84k.... I intend to drive the thing - 10-12k a year - not like many of you pussies out there.

White, buckets, club sport, chrono, black with silver stitching, silver belts.

Anyone want to hazard a guess to what it will be worth in 3 years - I’m thinking £37k?

That’s approx 50% depreciation from the £75k new price - cause we all know the extras are worth squat on trade in.

And let’s be realistic about this - no over inflated estimates please.
Well a 3 year old 16 16 plate medium spec 981 GT4 Clubsport with 10k worth of extras and say 33k miles would trade for around £53k. Retail £60k max.

I would say a projected value for the 718 GT4 would be £67500.

Finance figures might tell you otherwise. But they are usually bks.

The mileage is clearly the main issue.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Olderandwiser22 said:
10-12k above average???


My goodness!
I have tried to keep an eye on ave miles PA vs price over the last 10 years.

normal cars is 12k PA
Porsche cars are 8k PA
GT cars are 3k to max 5k PA

Porsche cars over 60k miles see massive price drops and VERY hard to sell.

I sell all my cars sub 30k miles for best return and a bigger market, 30k seems a cut of point for many right or wrong, which means bargains to be had at 35k miles but then that's closer to the 60k mile lemon spec non sellers.

this is very rough guide but go over those miles PA in any car and the price of the car drops quite a lot vs car with those or less miles.

It's not that bad on Porkers, Ferrari ave miles PA are much lower to keep the price intact.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 21st June 09:31

freedman

5,436 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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av185 said:
Well a 3 year old 16 16 plate medium spec 981 GT4 Clubsport with 10k worth of extras and say 33k miles would trade for around £53k. Retail £60k max.

I would say a projected value for the 718 GT4 would be £67500.

Finance figures might tell you otherwise. But they are usually bks.

The mileage is clearly the main issue.
Where are these 60k GT4s then??

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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freedman said:
av185 said:
Well a 3 year old 16 16 plate medium spec 981 GT4 Clubsport with 10k worth of extras and say 33k miles would trade for around £53k. Retail £60k max.

I would say a projected value for the 718 GT4 would be £67500.

Finance figures might tell you otherwise. But they are usually bks.

The mileage is clearly the main issue.
Where are these 60k GT4s then??
Find me a 32k miler and I'll show you.

Akajak

887 posts

240 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Joehow said:
I purchased a Cayman GTS 3 years ago from the dealer that I hope to get a 718 GT4 or Spyder from.

I am 31 now and have had all my cars serviced there, lent the dealer a car for a launch turned up to photoshoots when asked.

Yes I put a LOI in for the new car when I bought the GTS but thats all. Upon the new car being released I followed this up and have been told I have a fairly good chance depending on total allocation.

I have been told this is through:
- Proper use of cars and they seem to value this
- Age, they're looking to attract a younger customer
-Brand loyalty, I may have only bought one car through them but for the past 5 years all I have had is Porsches from a 986 Boxster to 996 GT3 and had them serviced at said dealer.
-Low likelihood to flip due to not having a 'collection' of cars

To answer the snobbery of the dealers comment earlier I have never experienced this, my OPC even when I had my 986 at 25 treated me like I was having a GT3 serviced. Then when I bought my Cayman GTS I was treated really well and not looked down on at all.

This is through Tonbridge who have always been brilliant.

Joe Magness in the service department has dug me out of many a hole.
love it, the yoof market

freedman

5,436 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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av185 said:
Find me a 32k miler and I'll show you.
So they don't currently exist then

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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freedman said:
av185 said:
Find me a 32k miler and I'll show you.
So they don't currently exist then
Dunno I'm not interested in a 32k mile 981 GT4 but as you seem so interested in one it would be up to you to try and find one which is valued at that price retail with that mileage.

freedman

5,436 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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av185 said:
Dunno I'm not interested in a 32k mile 981 GT4 but as you seem so interested in one it would be up to you to try and find one which is valued at that price retail with that mileage.
You are the one who brought the value up, I merely asked where they are


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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av185 said:
Find me a 32k miler and I'll show you.
Sorry to cut in but Hannah who I know vaguely via Twitter seems to have passed 32k a while ago. She is probably on 60k miles by now given she moved to Scotland for the roads.

https://twitter.com/HA11NNH

I actually don't know of another car with mileage in that ball park but not driving her GT4 is not a regret I think she'll ever have.

Terminator X

15,129 posts

205 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Porsche911R said:
Olderandwiser22 said:
10-12k above average???


My goodness!
I have tried to keep an eye on ave miles PA vs price over the last 10 years.

normal cars is 12k PA
Porsche cars are 8k PA
GT cars are 3k to max 5k PA

Porsche cars over 60k miles see massive price drops and VERY hard to sell.

I sell all my cars sub 30k miles for best return and a bigger market, 30k seems a cut of point for many right or wrong, which means bargains to be had at 35k miles but then that's closer to the 60k mile lemon spec non sellers.

this is very rough guide but go over those miles PA in any car and the price of the car drops quite a lot vs car with those or less miles.

It's not that bad on Porkers, Ferrari ave miles PA are much lower to keep the price intact.

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 21st June 09:31
#haircut

TX.

boxsey

3,575 posts

211 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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av185 said:
freedman said:
av185 said:
Find me a 32k miler and I'll show you.
So they don't currently exist then
Dunno I'm not interested in a 32k mile 981 GT4 but as you seem so interested in one it would be up to you to try and find one which is valued at that price retail with that mileage.
There was one with 30K miles on the OPC locator at the start of this week. Advertised at £71K IIRC. It's now disappeared. So I presume sold within a few days. Can't remember the spec or OPC.

Elvorfin

187 posts

198 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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freedman said:
Stunning, clap

Nice but think silver wheels are better.

freedman

5,436 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Elvorfin said:

Nice but think silver wheels are better.
Wheel colour is a problem I'd like to have smile

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Late Sapphire and particularly Agate GT4s/Spyders could well firm up a touch price wise bearing in mind unavailable on the 718.