The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

[Twinfan]

It may be cheaper/easier just to bore the out the 3.8 rather than change hardware/intakes etc for a more tuned 3.8. A simple capacity increase and re-tune would be cheap as chips and get the desired ~25bhp hike they want for market positioning.

[Twinfan]

True, but maybe they wanted a 4.0 for marketing so people think it's related to the GT3 engine.

If that's the case, the plan worked...

[TDT]

anonymous said:

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I took that same view from the article - but thought i'd leave it to everyone to make their own opinion.

I'm not sure if he is being:

sincere with modest improvement...ergo.. PowerKit 3.8 c400-435hp (which is still a 20hp to almost 50hp hike over the 981)

or

bashful ergo.. or detuned GT3.2 bottom-ended 4.0 or new Turbo monster (GT2-Mini!)

I think a power-kit 3.8 would be very cool personally and much more in keeping with the ethos of the GT4 Class... Dr Walliser has a very clear vision of what he thinks the category should look like.. obviously in Porsches favour.. he doesn't like the pro drivers coming from classes above and he doesn't like other marques entering cars that are clearly GT3 class cars a-la AMG GT and 570S etc.

Edited by TDT on Wednesday 7th February 15:46

[Fokker]

anonymous said:

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I was told its a 4 litre but time will tell I simply cannot see it being a 3.8.

[TomEdward]

I'd like whichever one sounds the best please!

[av185]

TomEdward said:

I'd like whichever one sounds the best please!

They will both sound good depending on your main use for the car.

The powerkit engine sounds better at low speeds, both probably sound equally good at mid revs but there is no contest at higher revs the 4.0 will sound better. Assuming that is, as a detuned unit it sounds similar to the new GT3.

[rkwm1]

I've been told it will be 4.0 and wear the RS badge by somebody who works in the supply chain. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

[GT4P]

rkwm1 said:

I've been told it will be 4.0 and wear the RS badge by somebody who works in the supply chain. Guess we'll find out soon enough!

If that's the case expect a price tag to match circa £100k+
IMHO I think the 718 spyder will be f4 turbo and they will build a 718CR with the same and no vanilla Gt4 with a na flat6.
But can't see us finding out any time soon though

[GT4RS]

So who think the next gt4 is going be a bun fight to get hold of? I personally hope it’s not going to be. But I’m betting on it will as it will mean these cars will sadly end up in the hands of people only in it for profit.

Will they also do the same as the new gt3 and offer a touring spec?

My money is on a 3.8 with a power kit to take it to around 425bhp

[Twinfan]

anonymous said:

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981 GT4 owners with an eye on future values perhaps?

[GT4RS]

Twinfan said:

anonymous said:

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981 GT4 owners with an eye on future values perhaps?

All depends on the retail cost of the new gt4, if it is in line with 981 pricing values will get hit as this car will be the next step up on the ladder for the Porsche gt4

I think the base will be around 69k

[Twinfan]

I think you've missed my point. Current NAF6 GT4 owners may be hoping for an F4T GT4 next in the hope that the value of their cars will rise.

It won't happen though. Every indication we've seen is that the next one will be an improved version with a NAF6.

[GT4P]

anonymous said:

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[Fokker]

Twinfan said:

I think you've missed my point. Current NAF6 GT4 owners may be hoping for an F4T GT4 next in the hope that the value of their cars will rise.

It won't happen though. Every indication we've seen is that the next one will be an improved version with a NAF6.

The current one as with your GTS just sounds so damn good though compared to the exhaust note on my new GT3.
Its dirty and as a result I really don't mind if its the current unit bored to 4 litre or 3.8 with a power kit.

Part of the charm of the GT4 is that is very antisocial - rebels race on and all that...

[GameofCars]

woollyjoe said:

In the face of the leaked details and deliberate comms from Porsche, people still think an old engine will return, or a turbo - in spite of zero information that this will be the case?

Its because sometimes these 'leaked' details by Porsche or the journos have not materialised or have changed direction (maybe influenced by marketing and/or cost etc). Not as bad as reading something in the Daily Mail & believing every word but still think we have to wait to hear exactly what the final config of the engine will be. Someone in the 'know' at Porsche said to me about the new Spyder that the journos have exaggerated claims about the engine.

[Twinfan]

GT3 engine minus all the special bits would basically be the old 3.8 bored to 4.0 wouldn't it? That would substantiate both the "detuned GT3" and the "4.0 version of the old 3.8" claims. No resurrection of an old engine and no turbos.

I'm thinking this is the most likely powerplant at this point, combined with a manual only 'box to keep the performance in check.

[finmac]

Surely the sensible thing for Porsche to do is use similar flat 6 as the old car and just up the power a little. Thus hopefully pricing the base car at £70K ish.

Oh and make 1500 for UK this time round please!

[GameofCars]

anonymous said:

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I'am not implying a four pot scenario. I have always indicated the next GT4 will be NA F6. Journos have been quoted as saying the next Spyder will have 4.0 GT3 based engine. My contact at Porsche said to me that the Journos have exaggerated these claims. So where does that leave us? There is so much speculation. Previous Head of GT - AP was known for slightly inaccurate quotes. i don't disbelieve what you are saying but you would have thought that Porsche peeps at OPC's would be singing from the same hymn book as Walliser. If Walliser has been officially quoted why are WE & OPC's still debating which engine config we shall be seeing in the next GT4?

The sales person i deal with at my OPC who I do trust said there has been nothing/no news coming through about the next GT4. You would have thought they would at least be quoting Walliser.

Edited by GameofCars on Thursday 8th February 12:48

[av185]

GameofCars said:

you would have thought that Porsche peeps at OPC's would be singing from the same hymn book as Walliser.

Majority of OPCs are clueless about future GT car specs.

[Twinfan]

OPCs will say nothing formally until the car is released. Up to that point, they may share some info/insight with key clients (if they know it) otherwise they stick to the script of "no info has been released".