The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
DuncGTS said:
If I keep mine I will be getting
Air filters, inlet, Cobb tune and manifolds with cats and leave standard exhaust but change the restricted tail pipe set up, get a map done to run supper unleaded (shell) and might also get the manifold where you can easily remove the cats and fit a pipe so no cats and a map on the Cobb to suit, just for the times when you can run on track (noisey day) and the times when you want to be very loud lol.
Should see over 430 with the cats and over 440 with out and that should be very nice indeed and make the car quite complete along with the few mods I have already done to the suspension and only other thing I would like to try is the dsc upgrade box as I do like to brake late and hard and have felt the rear end get quite loose when you do with is a bit unnerving
Like it.... Very similar to my plans....!! Can’t see the next Gen GT4 carrying over 430hp, and would save paying ridiculous overs if an allocation doesn’t transpire.... Have roughly calculated total cost as being somewhere under £10k— which is probably less than the increase in “base price” of the 718 GT4 vs the current model... Smart move imo....!!Air filters, inlet, Cobb tune and manifolds with cats and leave standard exhaust but change the restricted tail pipe set up, get a map done to run supper unleaded (shell) and might also get the manifold where you can easily remove the cats and fit a pipe so no cats and a map on the Cobb to suit, just for the times when you can run on track (noisey day) and the times when you want to be very loud lol.
Should see over 430 with the cats and over 440 with out and that should be very nice indeed and make the car quite complete along with the few mods I have already done to the suspension and only other thing I would like to try is the dsc upgrade box as I do like to brake late and hard and have felt the rear end get quite loose when you do with is a bit unnerving
Not sure why Mintbird refers to the Fabspeed system as “garbage”....?!? It appears to have a decent enough rep: certainly better than an IPE system....!! What do others think about the different aftermarket exhaust systems (headers/mufflers)....?? Any that stand out from the crowd....?
Just a bit of info on my experience with getting/not getting allocations.
My only buying history with my OPC was a new 981 Cayman S before my GT4 allocation. I had a 1.4 Renault Clio before that! I was one of the last people at my OPC to get a car I believe. I had no letter of intent as was told before launch they do not do this. I made deposit on launch day along with another 30 guys. I was lucky to get one.
I asked for 991.2 GT3. I was unsuccessful.
I am hoping for an allocation for whatever this 718 GT4 will be or a GT3RS but think that is very unlikely.
Still love the current GT4. 11000 road miles in 2 years (1 year as I work away on rotation) so if I am unsuccessful again, I'll keep running the car I have.
Obviously it has been a great car for me, and many others I expect, as it has allowed guys who have dreamed to have a car of this calibre who were no quite in the bracket financially to get there
My only buying history with my OPC was a new 981 Cayman S before my GT4 allocation. I had a 1.4 Renault Clio before that! I was one of the last people at my OPC to get a car I believe. I had no letter of intent as was told before launch they do not do this. I made deposit on launch day along with another 30 guys. I was lucky to get one.
I asked for 991.2 GT3. I was unsuccessful.
I am hoping for an allocation for whatever this 718 GT4 will be or a GT3RS but think that is very unlikely.
Still love the current GT4. 11000 road miles in 2 years (1 year as I work away on rotation) so if I am unsuccessful again, I'll keep running the car I have.
Obviously it has been a great car for me, and many others I expect, as it has allowed guys who have dreamed to have a car of this calibre who were no quite in the bracket financially to get there
Swimfinz said:
Like it.... Very similar to my plans....!! Can’t see the next Gen GT4 carrying over 430hp, and would save paying ridiculous overs if an allocation doesn’t transpire.... Have roughly calculated total cost as being somewhere under £10k— which is probably less than the increase in “base price” of the 718 GT4 vs the current model... Smart move imo....!!
Not sure why Mintbird refers to the Fabspeed system as “garbage”....?!? It appears to have a decent enough rep: certainly better than an IPE system....!! What do others think about the different aftermarket exhaust systems (headers/mufflers)....?? Any that stand out from the crowd....?
I think the Fabspeed headers are ok but the exhaust is junk i agree, reason it just makes lots of noise and far too much of it and near enough a straight pipe any shop can do. IPE sounds the best imo. I would get the cargraphic headers and keep the stock exhaust. I have a cobb, IPD with TB and filters sitting on the shelf I may let go.Not sure why Mintbird refers to the Fabspeed system as “garbage”....?!? It appears to have a decent enough rep: certainly better than an IPE system....!! What do others think about the different aftermarket exhaust systems (headers/mufflers)....?? Any that stand out from the crowd....?
dysart200 said:
Just a bit of info on my experience with getting/not getting allocations.
My only buying history with my OPC was a new 981 Cayman S before my GT4 allocation. I had a 1.4 Renault Clio before that! I was one of the last people at my OPC to get a car I believe. I had no letter of intent as was told before launch they do not do this. I made deposit on launch day along with another 30 guys. I was lucky to get one.
Basically I am in the same situation, begging for a 981.2 GT4 after buying a CGTS 3 yrs ago. My only buying history with my OPC was a new 981 Cayman S before my GT4 allocation. I had a 1.4 Renault Clio before that! I was one of the last people at my OPC to get a car I believe. I had no letter of intent as was told before launch they do not do this. I made deposit on launch day along with another 30 guys. I was lucky to get one.
It could get to luck or relationship with OPC.
But I don't get the relationship thing end of the day, only bought 1 cars from them, serviced to them, what shall I do on top of this?
Did the OPC ask you to put a deposit down, i.e. did they call you? I guess with caveat that you could have got it back as no allocation left, if you were the 31st on the list?
kilarney said:
Swimfinz said:
Like it.... Very similar to my plans....!! Can’t see the next Gen GT4 carrying over 430hp, and would save paying ridiculous overs if an allocation doesn’t transpire.... Have roughly calculated total cost as being somewhere under £10k— which is probably less than the increase in “base price” of the 718 GT4 vs the current model... Smart move imo....!!
Not sure why Mintbird refers to the Fabspeed system as “garbage”....?!? It appears to have a decent enough rep: certainly better than an IPE system....!! What do others think about the different aftermarket exhaust systems (headers/mufflers)....?? Any that stand out from the crowd....?
I think the Fabspeed headers are ok but the exhaust is junk i agree, reason it just makes lots of noise and far too much of it and near enough a straight pipe any shop can do. IPE sounds the best imo. I would get the cargraphic headers and keep the stock exhaust. I have a cobb, IPD with TB and filters sitting on the shelf I may let go.Not sure why Mintbird refers to the Fabspeed system as “garbage”....?!? It appears to have a decent enough rep: certainly better than an IPE system....!! What do others think about the different aftermarket exhaust systems (headers/mufflers)....?? Any that stand out from the crowd....?
Please let me know if you decide to part with the COBB/IPD etc, as these are on my “to buy” list anyhows....!!
RBT0 said:
Basically I am in the same situation, begging for a 981.2 GT4 after buying a CGTS 3 yrs ago.
It could get to luck or relationship with OPC.
But I don't get the relationship thing end of the day, only bought 1 cars from them, serviced to them, what shall I do on top of this?
Did the OPC ask you to put a deposit down, i.e. did they call you? I guess with caveat that you could have got it back as no allocation left, if you were the 31st on the list?
Yes, they asked me to put a deposit down on launch day. I would have had my deposit returned if I was not allocated a car. They did not contact me though. As soon as I was aware the car was announced I emailed them and then phoned. I was told at the time I was 9th on list and in the beginning I believe I was not going to get a car. Was much further down the line when I was told I was getting an allocation. My car was not delivered until Feb 2016 so was quite late I believe.It could get to luck or relationship with OPC.
But I don't get the relationship thing end of the day, only bought 1 cars from them, serviced to them, what shall I do on top of this?
Did the OPC ask you to put a deposit down, i.e. did they call you? I guess with caveat that you could have got it back as no allocation left, if you were the 31st on the list?
GT4RS said:
Cheib said:
IF the GT4 is a naturally aspirated 4.0 engine it will be really, really hard to get one....much harder than the 981 IMHO.
We all want it to be the 4.0 but I’m sure porsche will disappoint us and introduce the first 4 pot turbo gt4.There are people on here that want to punch you in the face for not knowing that, or thinking that the 4th version of this generation might be in keeping with the first 3.
Edited by BE57JAM on Wednesday 21st February 08:15
BE57JAM said:
GT4RS said:
Cheib said:
IF the GT4 is a naturally aspirated 4.0 engine it will be really, really hard to get one....much harder than the 981 IMHO.
We all want it to be the 4.0 but I’m sure porsche will disappoint us and introduce the first 4 pot turbo gt4.There are people on here that want to punch you in the face for not knowing that, or thinking that the 4th version of this generation might be in keeping with the first 3.
Edited by BE57JAM on Wednesday 21st February 08:15
Lol, more likely that some people are making things up about N/A. I’m yet to see any written evidence from porsche to say the new GT4 will not be turbo charged?
I've said this before and you can all quote me on it upon release, it will have a flat 6 twin turbo from the Carrera S at 410-420hp.
It's a no brainer, the engine is in production already, it fits in the car, it's more powerful and sound better than the flat 4, Oh and did i mention it's already in production.
Trust me, Porche know that if they put the S engine in the GT4 it will sell out, in fact it will have a waiting list and the general LOI, relationship with my OPC, I've been invited to place a deposit as i bought 3 Macans this year so i can spend another £80k bulls
tt and bunfight that always goes on with these cars.
If they can achieve the same result with a cost effective option, why would they go to the trouble of designing a new unit just to placate a few keyboard warriors on the net.
Just look at the T, hype and marketing really to sell the base cars before the 992 launch. Very clever, but still smoke and mirrors.
It's a no brainer, the engine is in production already, it fits in the car, it's more powerful and sound better than the flat 4, Oh and did i mention it's already in production.
Trust me, Porche know that if they put the S engine in the GT4 it will sell out, in fact it will have a waiting list and the general LOI, relationship with my OPC, I've been invited to place a deposit as i bought 3 Macans this year so i can spend another £80k bulls
tt and bunfight that always goes on with these cars.If they can achieve the same result with a cost effective option, why would they go to the trouble of designing a new unit just to placate a few keyboard warriors on the net.
Just look at the T, hype and marketing really to sell the base cars before the 992 launch. Very clever, but still smoke and mirrors.
lemmingjames said:
Porsche911R said:
that would be eye watering loud and fail MOT's
people have to under stand what each part does, a remap gives you 405BHP so In a 981 Spyder thats very cheap, nothing like 1bhp = £1k like the lemming man said ! you are getting 30bhp for £900
the TB give the air in helps the top end the manifolds give you the grunt lower down. it's either go map only or the whole hog imo.
map is the best value but if you want that big dip gone In the torque you really need every thing.
im not to clued up on GT4 tuning but can you post a link to where you can buy a remap for £900 and that releases 30 extra horses all by itself.people have to under stand what each part does, a remap gives you 405BHP so In a 981 Spyder thats very cheap, nothing like 1bhp = £1k like the lemming man said ! you are getting 30bhp for £900
the TB give the air in helps the top end the manifolds give you the grunt lower down. it's either go map only or the whole hog imo.
map is the best value but if you want that big dip gone In the torque you really need every thing.
or will you choose to ignore this request?
you get a bigger gain on the 981 Spyder of couse as that's 10BHP down on the GT4.
http://www.softronicsoftware.com/981-cayman-gt4-pe...
Porsche911R said:
knock yourself out, Scott knows his stuff also and you remap it at home and can flash it back to stock as he gives you a cable also.
you get a bigger gain on the 981 Spyder of couse as that's 10BHP down on the GT4.
http://www.softronicsoftware.com/981-cayman-gt4-pe...
Has anyone proven his gains though on an independant dyno? As he is producing more than your mate Jens who needs a throttle body to release 20bhpyou get a bigger gain on the 981 Spyder of couse as that's 10BHP down on the GT4.
http://www.softronicsoftware.com/981-cayman-gt4-pe...
Also isnt American Petrol different to ours?
Its just i find gaining 30 bhp from a simple remap abit of a long tale thats all, especially on a NA engine. Hes also offering 30 bhp increase on the 996 GT3 which i find unbelievable after listening to owners who have had theirs custom tuned/mapped at meets/dyno days etc. He also notes that the 30 bhp gain is for 93 Ron Petrol so im assuming a higher RON would give less gainz?
Though the question also needs to be asked, why didnt you do it as well?
Edited by lemmingjames on Wednesday 21st February 10:49
Budflicker said:
I've said this before and you can all quote me on it upon release, it will have a flat 6 twin turbo from the Carrera S at 410-420hp.
It's a no brainer, the engine is in production already, it fits in the car, it's more powerful and sound better than the flat 4, Oh and did i mention it's already in production.
Trust me, Porche know that if they put the S engine in the GT4 it will sell out, in fact it will have a waiting list and the general LOI, relationship with my OPC, I've been invited to place a deposit as i bought 3 Macans this year so i can spend another £80k bullstt and bunfight that always goes on with these cars.
If they can achieve the same result with a cost effective option, why would they go to the trouble of designing a new unit just to placate a few keyboard warriors on the net.
Just look at the T, hype and marketing really to sell the base cars before the 992 launch. Very clever, but still smoke and mirrors.
Even though I have been saying, believing & hopeful for F6 NA this does make sense. Although wasn't there some argument about fitting a F6 turbo in a Cayman?It's a no brainer, the engine is in production already, it fits in the car, it's more powerful and sound better than the flat 4, Oh and did i mention it's already in production.
Trust me, Porche know that if they put the S engine in the GT4 it will sell out, in fact it will have a waiting list and the general LOI, relationship with my OPC, I've been invited to place a deposit as i bought 3 Macans this year so i can spend another £80k bulls
tt and bunfight that always goes on with these cars.If they can achieve the same result with a cost effective option, why would they go to the trouble of designing a new unit just to placate a few keyboard warriors on the net.
Just look at the T, hype and marketing really to sell the base cars before the 992 launch. Very clever, but still smoke and mirrors.
lemmingjames said:
Has anyone proven his gains though on an independant dyno? As he is producing more than your mate Jens who needs a throttle body to release 20bhp
Also isnt American Petrol different to ours?
Its just i find gaining 30 bhp from a simple remap abit of a long tale thats all, especially on a NA engine. Hes also offering 30 bhp increase on the 996 GT3 which i find unbelievable after listening to owners who have had theirs custom tuned/mapped at meets/dyno days etc. He also notes that the 30 bhp gain is for 93 Ron Petrol so im assuming a higher RON would give less gainz?
Though the question also needs to be asked, why didnt you do it as well?
I was going to do it if my GT3 fell though.Also isnt American Petrol different to ours?
Its just i find gaining 30 bhp from a simple remap abit of a long tale thats all, especially on a NA engine. Hes also offering 30 bhp increase on the 996 GT3 which i find unbelievable after listening to owners who have had theirs custom tuned/mapped at meets/dyno days etc. He also notes that the 30 bhp gain is for 93 Ron Petrol so im assuming a higher RON would give less gainz?
Though the question also needs to be asked, why didnt you do it as well?
even if it's 405bhp then it's a big gain, I did not do it as I knew I had a GT3 coming so needed a oem car to part ex back.
USA 93 is like our 98 here. a higer ron gives more gain ! their base is 91 which is our 95 or some thing like that.
I would use Jens any way, just saying if you want a map you can do your self, then remap back to stock as he supplies both files, he does not mod your org file, so you can put the org one back on that's a massive plus point.
You wanted a link, you have a link, yes I think his peak BHP figure is a bit high. but it retunes the detune what Porsche put onto the car sub £1k and that's what you asked for.
Cobb is also a safe route as you can remap back to stock and you get logging options. great gains for the 981 Spyder imo as so many people seem to hate the fact these cars are detuned engines.
Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 21st February 11:06
anonymous said:
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Yes but that was mainly due to the engine issues that the 991.1 GT3 had and the reputation of the GT3 engines needed to be cemented back as reliable. GT4 didn't have engine issues.
Anyway, i'm not getting into a cmoose and Mrdemon style bunfight, so let's see what happens on release. If i'm wrong you can pull the quote up to show everyone
It would probably be enough to put me off. I’d still love the car but I’d need some practicality out of it and we all know here isn’t a huge amount of that so the 2k tax would prob be the one too many straws for my personal situation. Saying that, guaranteed resale at overs might undo that but would that still be a guarantee...
Porsche911R said:
I was going to do it if my GT3 fell though.
even if it's 405bhp then it's a big gain, I did not do it as I knew I had a GT3 coming so needed a oem car to part ex back.
USA 93 is like our 98 here. a higer ron gives more gain ! their base is 91 which is our 95 or some thing like that.
I would use Jens any way, just saying if you want a map you can do your self, then remap back to stock as he supplies both files, he does not mod your org file, so you can put the org one back on that's a massive plus point.
You wanted a link, you have a link, yes I think his peak BHP figure is a bit high. but it retunes the detune what Porsche put onto the car sub £1k and that's what you asked for.
Cobb is also a safe route as you can remap back to stock and you get logging options. great gains for the 981 Spyder imo as so many people seem to hate the fact these cars are detuned engines.
I still think 20/30bhp extra is a tall claim on a simple remap, has anyone independently verified these claims? Plus Jens is 2k minimum for 20bhpeven if it's 405bhp then it's a big gain, I did not do it as I knew I had a GT3 coming so needed a oem car to part ex back.
USA 93 is like our 98 here. a higer ron gives more gain ! their base is 91 which is our 95 or some thing like that.
I would use Jens any way, just saying if you want a map you can do your self, then remap back to stock as he supplies both files, he does not mod your org file, so you can put the org one back on that's a massive plus point.
You wanted a link, you have a link, yes I think his peak BHP figure is a bit high. but it retunes the detune what Porsche put onto the car sub £1k and that's what you asked for.
Cobb is also a safe route as you can remap back to stock and you get logging options. great gains for the 981 Spyder imo as so many people seem to hate the fact these cars are detuned engines.
Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 21st February 11:06
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