The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
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GT4RS said:
Let’s gt back on tack!
Would anyone happen to know how much further in advance do the opc next work get to know about spec / possible launch date of a GT car? Or is it a case that they find out just hours before we do?
I bet there phones are read hot the day it lands on the porche uk wed site!
My OPC mentioned to me that he believed the GT4 was not going to happen in 2018, would be early 2019, 12 months time. They were aware of GT3RS, are aware of speedster, and all new 911 later in the year. Would anyone happen to know how much further in advance do the opc next work get to know about spec / possible launch date of a GT car? Or is it a case that they find out just hours before we do?
I bet there phones are read hot the day it lands on the porche uk wed site!
Bedlamater said:
My OPC mentioned to me that he believed the GT4 was not going to happen in 2018, would be early 2019, 12 months time. They were aware of GT3RS, are aware of speedster, and all new 911 later in the year.
My OPC is saying the same: already knew of the 3RS and Speedster, but nothing definitive on the GT4..... Would thus be pretty surprised at a 4 reveal at Geneva.... But don’t quote me...!! Will indeed have been an excellent “smoke and mirrors” campaign if Porsche do indeed present the 718 GT4 early next month.... Would actually be a relief, in a way, as the arguments regarding the 4’s new powerplant are becoming rather circular...!!J-P said:
When the original GT4 launched, it went to Geneva and there was also a surprise GT3RS reveal - could be the reverse this time?
I thing we are a year early, and the cars are testing engines atm, I might be wrong but Porsche do 4 year cycles the GT4 came out in 2015.What car are you driving these days ?
Swimfinz said:
According to my local OPC they get “very little forewarning”.... But that could of course be b
ks.... It’s looking increasingly unlikely that a new GT4 will be revealed at Geneva though.... With only days to go until the show, the 3RS has been fully revealed to the world, with still nothing more than a few spy shots of a GT4 “mule”.... (If that’s even what it is.....)
I think this is genuinely true. I'm not in the market/haevn't discussed GT4 with my OPC but I know from other product launches/new models they are frequently in the dark on things that are more than say two or three months away. Even when model variants do get launched they don't necessarily know much more than we read in the press initially. I suppose it's all about controlling information media coverage and from Porsche AG's perspective that's very hard to do if every dealer in your network knows your product launches for the next 12 months. Just not going to happen is it. ks.... It’s looking increasingly unlikely that a new GT4 will be revealed at Geneva though.... With only days to go until the show, the 3RS has been fully revealed to the world, with still nothing more than a few spy shots of a GT4 “mule”.... (If that’s even what it is.....)Porsche911R said:
J-P said:
When the original GT4 launched, it went to Geneva and there was also a surprise GT3RS reveal - could be the reverse this time?
I thing we are a year early, and the cars are testing engines atm, I might be wrong but Porsche do 4 year cycles the GT4 came out in 2015.What car are you driving these days ?
J-P said:
I would be surprised if the GT4 came out this year but you never know? I’m missing my old R but keeping my powder dry for the next GT4. If not allowed one then, I’ll get a Lotus Evora GT410 or something like that. Driving a little Audi S1 at the moment which I’ll keep as my station car. It’s surprisingly good but the brakes are terrible (I’ll be upgrading all round next month and get it chipped - it can handle more power).
shame about the R project you had planned, I had an S1 lasted 2 months, it never really delivered, the steering and worst the gear change were dire, I swapped it for a Golf Clubsport, it was like going from normal car to a GT3, I love it.S1 cannot take any more power really, the Clutch goes stock as it is, and the drive shafts cannot take it either. even my other half thought it was a dull car.
The thing is they look so good on paper but in the real world are a bit naff, more a yummy mummy drive, it was a very a disappointing ownership.
What ever the next GT4 is we are getting detached from cars, hence why I kept my R and have the big brake kit to go on it.
I too will end up back in a Lotus but not decided which yet ,def not an Evora though, be and Elise or Exige. The Evora cannot go head to head with the last GT4 so it's a odd car to buy imo over a Cayman. The Elise and Exige have a market and Lotus know it, great week end cars.
anonymous said:
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The rennlist poster who was on some form of end of season Porsche Motorsport event reported he was told Gen 2 would be on a new platform. BGB Motorsports reported US teams told Gen 2 Club Sport would be available to order December 2018 with road car to follow.So is Gen 2 GT4 on "new 992" platform? and Spyder on 718 platform.
imo it will arrive in March Next year and be a tuned GTS with a wing and GT3 sus again.
Works with the time lines and models and we know the Flat 4 turbo can do what ever BHP they like with a remap to slot straight in, you cannot have the GTS being faster than a GT4 so you can rule out NA.
Nothing to get excited about imo and a long way off.
GTS will be the star Cayman at the 2018 March Motor show to boost sales. with the main Model launch being the 991.2 RS.
4.0l In the GT4 is wish full thinking imo and the mules don't confirm anything esp as none have sound clips.
Works with the time lines and models and we know the Flat 4 turbo can do what ever BHP they like with a remap to slot straight in, you cannot have the GTS being faster than a GT4 so you can rule out NA.
Nothing to get excited about imo and a long way off.
GTS will be the star Cayman at the 2018 March Motor show to boost sales. with the main Model launch being the 991.2 RS.
4.0l In the GT4 is wish full thinking imo and the mules don't confirm anything esp as none have sound clips.
gtsralph said:
The rennlist poster who was on some form of end of season Porsche Motorsport event reported he was told Gen 2 would be on a new platform. BGB Motorsports reported US teams told Gen 2 Club Sport would be available to order December 2018 with road car to follow.
So is Gen 2 GT4 on "new 992" platform? and Spyder on 718 platform.
Fits perfect with a GT4 turbo road car launch in March 2019.So is Gen 2 GT4 on "new 992" platform? and Spyder on 718 platform.
Porsche911R said:
you cannot have the GTS being faster than a GT4 so you can rule out NA.
Although AP was quoted as saying that the GT4 isn't all about outright power/bhp. We can all interpret this differently. But this says to me that there is unlikely to be much difference in power between the 718 turbo GTS & 718 GT4 but the GT4 will have better GT suspension & more track focused etc etc anonymous said:
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every press review from Porsche has been gibberish and miss truths , what I have outlined fits with what they can do , models years, engines, time scales etc etc.Can you really see a bespoke GT4 4.0L engine for a small production run car when the engine will go in nothing else ?
I have no idea where the 4.0L rumor came from but I cannot see some very high co2 4.0 engine going into a Cayman in 2019
GT3 is faster than the GTS btw ! you told me so just last week when I said the GTS is a better road car really.
Be nice to see a 4.0l GT4 and Spyder with 450bhp but really to me it's very wishfull thinking.
The old GT4 had a engine to put in it, this made up 4.0L mainly pushed by Focker super inside info seems pie In the sky if you sit and think about it.
Added to which they will have to detune it, it's a 500bhp engine ! the old 3.8 does 435BHP no issue with bolt on tunes, so the 4.0l has to go in at 435BHP any less would be a very limp 4.0 lump.
are they going to put another 50bhp into the next GT4 ! be far easier to say 400PS on the flat 4. that keeps it way off the 911 GTS and the NA 500BHP GT3, but a nice upgrade from the 365 Cayman GTS and up on the old GT4.
anonymous said:
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Every thing they say is never direct, the biggest was PDK will not fit in a GT4 !!Don't fit a lightweight flywheel
911R has the same downforce with trick diffusers, which we know would have to be so big and low to the ground to work.
You don't like the Air ducts quotes on the GT3 which the touring misses but gives the same performance !
This engine don't fit, that engine don't fit etc etc
x51 don't fit in GT4
We have yet to see if the new comments are true regarding engines , time will tell.
But most are miss direction quotes, what you can say is NO one from Porsche has ever said "we have a new 4.0l engine"
That's just some odd rumor on here and the mags post up forum rumors as click bait and when one does it they all have too !
Even all the mules don't have the exhaust in the right places ! So while it might not be a 4 pot turbo it's prob going to be a 6 pot turbo.
No one ever said the next one won't be turbo ! I think they said "we won't put a 4 pot in a GT car"
any way no one knows we are all guessing but most are wish full guessing.
I could post this RS GT4 4.0l 450bhp specs and drawings leaked and the mags might post it next week lol
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 23 February 12:17
anonymous said:
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AP on the 991.1 GT3...interview from Car Magazinehttps://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-ne...
Specifically he said the following
'There’s no chance of a manual. We don’t want to offer too many options on our GT cars. And if you’ve got a manual and a PDK you’ve got to have different set-ups for the suspension, the aero, the tyres, everything. We are a small team and can only concentrate on one car.'
And of course on the 991.2 GT3 there different suspension, aero and tyres for the manaul car vs the PDk isn't there ?
Not saying every press release is gibberish but you can't lay too much store by what they say!
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