The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
BE57JAM said:
At the risk of being unpopular - all this 718 hate is pure toy throwing and tantrums IMO because the old guard aren’t getting what they want. I’ll be as fair as I can and assume the guys making all the fuss are people that loved the old car and are sad they aren’t getting an upgrade to the formula they’re used to. I can sympathise with that. But the 718 is a BETTER CAR IN EVERY WAY. the amount of air time given to the engine and exhaust note is embarrassing. Totally disproportionate.
FASTER
BETTER HANDLING
BETTER INTERIOR and TECH
BETTER FUEL ECONOMY
MORE TORQUE FOR EVERY DAY USE
reading all the moaning is like hearing those old farts moaning at work about how things were better 20 years ago. It obviously wasn’t or it wouldn’t have changed.
Then again I’m a first time Porsche buyer so maybe I don’t know what I’m missing. But I do know if I had the option to get the old engine or the new I’d pick the new. Shame people don’t have the choice in the new model. Would shut a lot of people up.
lol. I agree with you in every way (and I have driven a 981 CGTS), I prefer the 4 pot turbo - suits my driving style more.FASTER
BETTER HANDLING
BETTER INTERIOR and TECH
BETTER FUEL ECONOMY
MORE TORQUE FOR EVERY DAY USE
reading all the moaning is like hearing those old farts moaning at work about how things were better 20 years ago. It obviously wasn’t or it wouldn’t have changed.
Then again I’m a first time Porsche buyer so maybe I don’t know what I’m missing. But I do know if I had the option to get the old engine or the new I’d pick the new. Shame people don’t have the choice in the new model. Would shut a lot of people up.
You'll never win a 718 vs 981 argument on a GT4 thread!
Moving on...
Why was there a Hybrid Honda NSX (with radio antenna at front) in the same group?
Why was there a Hybrid Honda NSX (with radio antenna at front) in the same group?
TomEdward said:
boitjie said:
lol. I agree with you in every way (and I have driven a 981 CGTS), I prefer the 4 pot turbo - suits my driving style more.
You'll never win a 718 vs 981 argument on a GT4 thread!
of course not as the 987.2 is the nicer drivers car so you can stick the 981 in the same place as the 718, as all the 981 has going for it is the engine over the 718..You'll never win a 718 vs 981 argument on a GT4 thread!
people say the 981 is better in every area so as you can see every thing Cmoose said about the 718 I will say about the 981 even the noise as the 981 has gone for the farty over run chav thing.
leaving the 987.2 the best car and more real to drive. you can go back and say that about older cars but they have engne issues so the 987.2 is the pick of the bunch and the last to have hydraulic steering. If you like driving over having Apple play and want a nice engine, The R is still the best Cayman/Boxster made to date imo.
so I do find 981 owners a bit funny slating the 718 as thy use "better in every area" remarks also but yet fail to see why the 987.2 is the real deal.
gtsralph said:
Moving on...
Why was there a Hybrid Honda NSX (with radio antenna at front) in the same group?
Almost certainly because they're bench marking the 911 against, perhaps one of the 911's was a 992 hybrid ? Why was there a Hybrid Honda NSX (with radio antenna at front) in the same group?
TomEdward said:
Article here about Porsche future strategy regarding hybrid/electric cars.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/company/porsche-e-...
Twinfan said:
BE57JAM said:
Faster.
Better handling.
More efficient.
That is objectively better. That’s a fact.
Better handling could be subjective, depending on the way you drive and your preferences.Better handling.
More efficient.
That is objectively better. That’s a fact.
More efficient is debatable, a turbo four pot can be pretty un-economical if you gas it everywhere.
So that leaves faster, which in my experience has been the only place the 718 is arguably "better" than the 981.
Not one review said the 718 was a vast, night and day improvement over the 981. Small but noticeable improvements in handling, slightly quicker steering, better tech and of course demerits for the F4T. Overall nothing that said, people, if you can find the money, get yourself to your nearest OPC and bag one of these bad boys immediately. If not sooner.
I’ve driven 3 718’s 2 Boxters and a Cayman.
All the factual stuff quoted meant nothing to me when I was driving them. For me, though far from ordinary, they did feel more ordinary... the sense of occasion was missing, the F6 adds a lot MY enjoyment of driving and ownership.
I’ve no problem with folk preferring the 718, if my neighbour bought one I’d be over there having a look and congratulating him re his great purchase. I wouldn’t even say he should’ve bought a 981. Those saying us 981 owners are just moaning because the NA F6 has gone, well a fair few don’t get it. As others have pointed out, faster, better tech does, supposedly better economy aren’t necessarily the things that 981 owners think make a car better. At the same time as a 981 CS owner I can see why things like low down grunt and tech will appeal more to those who use their cars daily. Especially those who have only know turbo engines...
I do find it a strange for someone to come out batting fiercely for the 718 having not driven the 981 though
There's always been an argument and comparison between the 911 Turbo and 911 N/A models.
I've never had a 911 Turbo because i don't like turbos' its that simple.
Half the reason some has bought a 981 in the past, probably more than half the reason is that its normally aspirated.
The disappointment is coming from those people who are now, if you want a new Cayster, are having to have a turbo.
There are bound to be complaints. The 718 might be fast but its sure as hell soulless compared to the 981's.
I've never had a 911 Turbo because i don't like turbos' its that simple.
Half the reason some has bought a 981 in the past, probably more than half the reason is that its normally aspirated.
The disappointment is coming from those people who are now, if you want a new Cayster, are having to have a turbo.
There are bound to be complaints. The 718 might be fast but its sure as hell soulless compared to the 981's.
lemmingjames said:
i hope its a turbo so;
a. i get to watch this forum have a melt down
b. itll put off the 'speculators' as nobody will want them and therefore you wont need a buying history with an OPC
Lol... excellent point. If it is a turbo it'd be worth taking the day off to read the 1st 200 comments.a. i get to watch this forum have a melt down
b. itll put off the 'speculators' as nobody will want them and therefore you wont need a buying history with an OPC
There will be plenty said now matter it is F4T, F6T or F6.. Whatever it is there is going to be a fair few celebrating and others say why it's the wrong decision.
If it's a F6, the execution could be wrong for some who want the F6. A case of be careful what you wish for... it's going to be interesting.
lemmingjames said:
i hope its a turbo so;
a. i get to watch this forum have a melt down
b. itll put off the 'speculators' as nobody will want them and therefore you wont need a buying history with an OPC
Ummmmm...........if F6T it will still be popular. Probably not so if F4T. I think loosing two cylinders & going turbo will be a disaster for a GT car. I have been thinking of all the engine variables & possibilities as I stand a very good chance of a 718 GT4 - if it is F6T I will still want one but if F4T I'll keep the Aston.a. i get to watch this forum have a melt down
b. itll put off the 'speculators' as nobody will want them and therefore you wont need a buying history with an OPC
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