The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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Littleern

126 posts

139 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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Maybe my old ears are not sensitive enough these days (which would be odd, given the size of them).

DuncGTS

101 posts

107 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Think if you are in the market for a NA gt4 or spider then you had best get on board quick.
Yes the new car will be quicker in all areas and to be fair that's what we all want isnt it but the noise the 981 GT4 makes is just so sweat that I could live with it being a bit slower and it would problely send me down the tuning route to get a nice solid 430 / 440 bhp from it and a bag full of more torque

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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DuncGTS said:
Sounds legit to me
Me too.

TomEdward

63 posts

121 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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I took my GT4 round Anglesey circuit last week and not once did I think this car needs to be quicker.

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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I have just asked my masseuse so I'm waiting for a reply.
Is it just me of does the sound seem overlaid onto that vid?

I suppose its quite plausible for the Spyder to have a T4 but I agree with CMoose that the GT4 wont.
I've had in on very good authority that the next GT4 is a 4 litre NA6 so I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Spyder though... Makes you wonder...?

TDT

4,947 posts

120 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Fokker said:
I have just asked my masseuse so I'm waiting for a reply.
Is it just me of does the sound seem overlaid onto that vid?

I suppose its quite plausible for the Spyder to have a T4 but I agree with CMoose that the GT4 wont.
I've had in on very good authority that the next GT4 is a 4 litre NA6 so I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Spyder though... Makes you wonder...?
Cult status of the GT4 would make you think it warrants special treatment of its own... but business economics will ultimately decide.
They know they can sell every single one of them - Spyder and GT4 - so it hardly matters what they do - and they could price it however they wanted... they are only restricted by their own range segmentation, and they can chose to ignore it if they want and lose money on each unit. In that case they should go whole hog and make it an unobtainium RS with a near full fat NA swan song.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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Check the video again, right at the end. GT style bumper...

Fokker

3,460 posts

223 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Just been told that GT4 is a 4 litre, again!

There has been a clamp down on leaking info apparently... Doesn't really help I'm sorry but that Spyder sounds like a T4 to me.

DuncGTS

101 posts

107 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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I have always been in the thinking off if they ever did a GT4RS then yes a full out 4L with PDK only but I feel the next GT4 will be turbo, lime I have said for a long time now, I can't see a GT3 engine going in that just de tuned as it's to much money to do that for what it's worth, the 4 L engine is gone now as we all know the next GT3 will be turbo and if we was going to get a 4L then I think we would have already been placing the orders as to get them before the rule changes,.
Old 3.8 used then again carnt see it as that engine is also gone, Porsche are looking forward these days what with electric ECT and need to be or they will get left behind, just look at what they have had to do to the 911 race cars to try and keep them at the front, go mid engine !!! And who would have believed that a few years back, turbo is next and then hybrids.

The only thing that might be in the running is just may be they have managed to get the 6 turbo in but I know that's a long shot and by far the easiest route is 4 pot with a new bigger turbo running a bit more boost, may be 2.7 L and 390 bhp for the spider and 405 bhp for the GT4

DuncGTS

101 posts

107 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Fokker said:
Just been told that GT4 is a 4 litre, again!

There has been a clamp down on leaking info apparently... Doesn't really help I'm sorry but that Spyder sounds like a T4 to me.
Still a slight hope I guess that both cars will be, but from that video clip it's sounds 100% turbo (4 or 6 ???) And what with both spider and Cayman all running the same exhaust lay out I guess they will be running the same engine, plus would Porsche be doing or have the time to develop 2 engines for such low production models???

Secret director

162 posts

78 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Chaps,

As a T owner with the flat 6 turbo.. that Spyder sounds very similar from the basic sound through the video ...

Bearing in mind the 981 GT4 and Spyder had the original Carrera engine, would we be surprised if its the 3.0 litre turbo...?

However, what we could find, is that as the GT dept want NA, which is well publicised ...that the Spyder and GT4 could use different engines..?

That would be impressive and probably isn’t that hard for Porsche to implement....

Looking forward to developments...

JasonSteel

566 posts

97 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Secret director said:
As a T owner with the flat 6 turbo.. that Spyder sounds very similar from the basic sound through the video ...
definitely sounds a bit livelier and high pitched than the flat 4.

here's a 991.2 at similar idle/slow speed. seems more of a match?

https://youtu.be/LDROLkg0Br4?t=16s

DuncGTS

101 posts

107 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Well a 3 L twin turbo from the 911 would make a very fast Cayman/spider in 420 or 450 bhp and very easy to tune up a bit as well.
That would be a winner in my eyes if they can get it to fit and keep cool

Swimfinz

315 posts

109 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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DuncGTS said:
Still a slight hope I guess that both cars will be, but from that video clip it's sounds 100% turbo (4 or 6 ???) And what with both spider and Cayman all running the same exhaust lay out I guess they will be running the same engine, plus would Porsche be doing or have the time to develop 2 engines for such low production models???
^^^ This.... Would make zero sense to completely segregate the GT4 from the Spyder, considering the heritage (987 Spyder— 987 Cayman R; 981 Spyder—981 GT4).... The cost of designing 2 different engine configurations for the SAME chassis would be plain silly, even by Porsche standards....The most I could see them doing is maybe, just maybe, putting a 4T in the Spyder and a 6T in GT4.... But again— would seem EXTREMELY uneconomical tbh....

Also, and this has been said repeatedly, putting a 4L N/A flat 6 in the new GT4 would seriously threaten the status of the new GT3.... Unless it was ridiculously “de-tuned”, which again would seem just silly, uneconomical and pointless....!! The car would just be faster, handle better and be significantly cheaper.... Fantastic way to really ps off existing GT3 customers....

Swimfinz

315 posts

109 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Think someone needs to snap up that high spec £72k GT4 for sale at Gmund Cars..... Before they start to creep up again.... wink

av185

18,524 posts

128 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Swimfinz said:
Also, and this has been said repeatedly, putting a 4L N/A flat 6 in the new GT4 would seriously threaten the status of the new GT3.... Unless it was ridiculously “de-tuned”
Err it will be heavily detuned.

DuncGTS

101 posts

107 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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Well back in 2015 Porsche had a few different 3.8 engines to choose from, today is just one and that one is a very expensive one and going forward do they even have a N.A. engine at all they can put in a car ?

TrackNutz

164 posts

77 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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I've heard a hundred 718's and that does not sound like the current F4T at all.

But in the same breath, it also sounds nothing like the current F6T.

Hmmmmmm. Then again, the MA1 sounded different in the 981 compared to the 991.1. Same engine. This proves that with different exhaust systems and manifolds, it's anyone's guess.

Swimfinz

315 posts

109 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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I meant this in the context of what I’d written in my previous paragraph.... (ie. “Segregating” the Spyder/GT4 models.... ) Sure, if the same 4L N/A motor was being heavily detuned and placed in both the Spyder AND GT4, then this would not screw around with the concept of the 2 cars being based upon the same platform (as has always been the case— and would also prove more economical)..... But to put a 4 pot Turbo in one car, and then an entirely different motor in the other would make a mockery of the 2 models’ previous engine “alignment”.... It is in this sense that it would, in my opinion, be an uneconomical and unwise move...

gtsralph

1,189 posts

145 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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gtsralph said:
No smile vent and 4T - makes sense differentiated from GT models
Correction, it is smiling...