Looking at buying a GT4
Discussion
av185 said:
Who said it was a factory option?
It's a dealer fit cost option.
So it's an option.
The carmine red GT4 recently advertised and mentioned on the GT4 thread was without nav and was c£5k cheaper than the equivalent nav car.
A couple of non nav Spyders have also been sold around £5k cheaper too.
Next you will be claiming a steel braked 991 RS is worth the same as a pccb car.....
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You need to read my posts tracker was dealer fit as I stated.It's a dealer fit cost option.
So it's an option.
The carmine red GT4 recently advertised and mentioned on the GT4 thread was without nav and was c£5k cheaper than the equivalent nav car.
A couple of non nav Spyders have also been sold around £5k cheaper too.
Next you will be claiming a steel braked 991 RS is worth the same as a pccb car.....
:You telling me this is a £89k car if it had NAV ?
http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...
As for PCCB you might get £5k more on a RS not the £20k you harp on about !
The carmine car was a rare private sale and sold at a much higher price than any trade price would offer, and it sold mores the point.
My cars got loads of options but I would also only list it at £79k to try and sell it and make it look like a nice deal vs dealers cars at £87k.
Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 22 November 20:51
Spec is personal. End of the day every GT4 comes with the front suspension from a GT3, GT3 brakes, forged wishbones, a cracking manual gearbox and a high revving tuneful nasp flat six. For me that's what defines the GT4 - the Porsche GT dept magic. All the optional extras were a bonus.
Good luck with the search!
Good luck with the search!
Interestingly just looked at the locator for first time in a while and only 13 cars. I'm amazed at how strong the prices are for a car of my spec. It seems prices for well spec'd cars have actually gone up if anything. Cheapest car with light weight buckets is 89k!
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Fokker said:
Interestingly just looked at the locator for first time in a while and only 13 cars. I'm amazed at how strong the prices are for a car of my spec. It seems prices for well spec'd cars have actually gone up if anything. Cheapest car with light weight buckets is 89k!
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
I just think the good spec cars at £85k are selling ok even in these slow times. above that they seem to stick and low specs cars are very poor value, you are paying 15k overs on the lower spec cars. where the sweet spot of £85k and all the spec is 10k over and selling well. Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Fokker said:
Interestingly just looked at the locator for first time in a while and only 13 cars. I'm amazed at how strong the prices are for a car of my spec. It seems prices for well spec'd cars have actually gone up if anything. Cheapest car with light weight buckets is 89k!
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Proper spec cars with all the desirable bits are few and far between in the OPC network. I sold my car to Chester and it’s listed at £95,250 making it the 2nd most expensive when I last looked. Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Loads of lower spec cars available but you have to pay £££ for all the bits!
Truly epic car
Porsche911R said:
tracker was dealer fit as I stated.
As for PCCB you might get £5k more on a RS not the £20k you harp on about !
Your contribution to this thread and helping the OP is typically confusing and most unhelpful.As for PCCB you might get £5k more on a RS not the £20k you harp on about !
Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 22 November 20:51
Are you seriously under the delusion that your charitable OPC would install tracker at no extra cost then?
It's an option ffs!
As for the RS, your claim that a ceramic car would sell for less than the costed option new over a steel braked car is frankly laughable.
Fokker said:
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Sorry Fokker I disagree with that statement it may be true for chairs but not folding buckets!Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
GT4P said:
Sorry Fokker I disagree with that statement it may be true for chairs but not folding buckets!
Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
Really? I love the 918 LWBs over any distance, although the longest trip is still only 3 hours. But seats are s very personal thing.Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
Again, as someone who's gone through the process of buying a GT4 through the OPC network in the past few weeks, it's very obvious that buyers are still after pristine low mileage with all the trimmings and prepared to pay for it. I test drove 3 cars in 3 different OPCs all more than 100 miles apart as well negotiating prices with another 4 OPCs. I'm frankly surprised how popular the PCCBs are given the premium, but cars with CS, Ceramics and LWBs don't hang around under £90k. Colchester were asking £98k the other day. That's a bit rich but someone might walk in feeling flush one day.
GT4P said:
Fokker said:
Folding buckets and chairs seem to fetch a lot less.
Sorry Fokker I disagree with that statement it may be true for chairs but not folding buckets!Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
BnB said:
Really? I love the 918 LWBs over any distance, although the longest trip is still only 3 hours. But seats are s very personal thing.
"This is why I said choose the seats that suit you as some cannot even get on with either buckets at all if used as more than a weekend toy!"BnB said:
Colchester were asking £98k the other day. That's a bit rich but someone might walk in feeling flush one day.
Saw that car the other week and I am sorry no way is that car worth the premium but they did sell a black one recently for similar money,it just makes the non cs steel braked cars at £85k look great value!Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 22 November 22:32
GT4P said:
Sorry Fokker I disagree with that statement it may be true for chairs but not folding buckets!
Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
The issue is unless you have had both the 918 style are the more sort after option in the general domain.Some actually prefer the more comfortable folding buckets and because they are rarer on the gt4 it actually reduces choice for those seeking cars with. If I was looking to buy a 991.2 gt3 further down the line I would only seek cars with said seats and have heard of new buyers of new gt3 switching to folding buckets after having 918style in gt4 for better comfort over long journeys!
av185 said:
Your contribution to this thread and helping the OP is typically confusing and most unhelpful.
Are you seriously under the delusion that your charitable OPC would install tracker at no extra cost then?
It's an option ffs!
I give up with you, totally clueless. A tracker on the GT4 is no more an option as buying a cap or pen is !Are you seriously under the delusion that your charitable OPC would install tracker at no extra cost then?
It's an option ffs!
It's a dealer fit item , ie not a factory fit order, it's not listed on the booking system on the Gt4 and you cannot spec it.
I have 2 cars with factory fit trackers at a cost of £900, this was never a option on the GT4 !
please stop posting !
I've read that the folding buckets allowed owners to get more comfortable than the upright/fixed buckets, but at the expense of sitting slightly higher? The cars I've seen with folding buckets haven't been noticeably cheaper, with PCCB and mileage being the biggest differentiator in price.....
Counting the days until I get my own!
Counting the days until I get my own!
ghiblicup said:
I had the folding buckets in my GTS and have the 918’s in th GT4. The folding are more comfortable without a doubt and they are not “high” at all. That’s just someone b
hing because they ordered the armchairs 
Thanks for that - Whilst I prefer the look of the fixed buckets (I do like carbon fibre!) my car has folding buckets which I'm hoping will allow a less "compromised" driving position.... hing because they ordered the armchairs Pauloamore said:
Are the folding buckets electrically height adjustable? I think not (but i have 918 seats)
- isn’t that the main difference between the two?
Also, 918 style cannot be heated. Not sure on the folding seats.
The folding buckets do not adjust for height which seems to be the major gripe..The trouble with the 918 style buckets is the height adjustment only lifts the front or back of the seat,and i'm not sure which..This has the result in altering the backrest angle depending on whether its the front or rear that adjusts.- isn’t that the main difference between the two?
Also, 918 style cannot be heated. Not sure on the folding seats.
I had the 918's on my GT4 and i loved them but you need to get the height control just right.I'm 5' 10 1/2 with longer torso relative to legs and based on my recent GT3 PEC day my preferred position on the 918's is with the seat at its lowest position.I suspect its the back of the seat that adjusts for height which means with the seat in its lowest position results in less upright backrest angle which addresses the main criticism of being too upright.
I wouldn’t mind my folding buckets being an inch lower but it’s no big deal. Found them much more comfortable around the shoulders than the 918s, plus they’re heated (I have a Spyder).
I was disappointed for sure that the car didn’t have a nav but have since fitted an aftermarket head unit that does (plus an amp, and speakers, don’t get me started...). Unless the 718 Spyder is an unlikely mixture of beautiful, available and affordable I can’t see myself selling the 981.
I was disappointed for sure that the car didn’t have a nav but have since fitted an aftermarket head unit that does (plus an amp, and speakers, don’t get me started...). Unless the 718 Spyder is an unlikely mixture of beautiful, available and affordable I can’t see myself selling the 981.
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