Dealer Prices Increased For 981 CGTS - Reaction To 718 GTS?

Dealer Prices Increased For 981 CGTS - Reaction To 718 GTS?

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Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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bcr5784 said:
My dealer was told by Alpine that an order placed NOW would be fulfilled by the end of the year - but I don't find even that credible. Alpine say they will produce the 1955 PEs between March and September (I expect RHD cars to be the last) and start production on Pure and Legend after that . They already have over 2500 deposits for them and even if the production rate is up to 5000/yr by then , that will fill production until March 2019. I think that represents best case scenario and a bit more slippage wouldn't surprise me.

If you think odds are that you will like the car and will wait that long I'd place a deposit now, or as soon as they start taking deposits again if that isn't possible. It's fully refundable so your only exposure is currency fluctuation and a little loss of interest. You can pull the plug in May if the car doesn't suit. That was my view last March and, apart from production delays, I'm still very comfortable with the decision I made.
What's the longest anyone has had to wait for a car after their deposit was placed? Am talking about when orders were officially open rather than the speculative LOI approach before a car is announced.

PS were you able to order a PE in March 2017? I had understood they were all sold within 5 days?

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Prestonese said:
What's the longest anyone has had to wait for a car after their deposit was placed? Am talking about when orders were officially open rather than the speculative LOI approach before a car is announced.

PS were you able to order a PE in March 2017? I had understood they were all sold within 5 days?
The car was open for deposits in Dec 16. I believe the French allocation went in 2 days, the rest of the LHD allocation in 5. I'm not sure when the RHD cars were open for deposits, but there were 60 or so cars available when I looked during the Geneva show in March when the car was first shown properly. They were all gone before the end of the show. Because of the demand deoposits were opened the non-PE edition.

Prestonese

793 posts

105 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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bcr5784 said:
The car was open for deposits in Dec 16. I believe the French allocation went in 2 days, the rest of the LHD allocation in 5. I'm not sure when the RHD cars were open for deposits, but there were 60 or so cars available when I looked during the Geneva show in March when the car was first shown properly. They were all gone before the end of the show. Because of the demand deoposits were opened the non-PE edition.
Strange that. I placed mine a few days after the announcement in December 2016 and there weren't many left. If your feedback on dates are correct it could be a 2 year wait in total!

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Twinfan said:
Funny comments from tedblog. It reminds me of being a kid and playing Top Trumps in the playground hehe
Oh yeah so its does laugh i wont choose the "how many cylinders" category biglaugh

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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tedblog said:
Oh yeah so its does laugh i wont choose the "how many cylinders" category biglaugh
laughbeer

Paul_D

51 posts

75 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Hi everyone. New on here but have read a lot of the forum stuff. I am not sure if I have a 'uniform' spec Cayman 981s- sports chrono, pasm, ptv, pse, sports tailpipes, sports design steering wheel, pccb , buckets and manual transmission. Pcm, 20gb jukebox and Bluetooth mobile prep etc. It is basically a gts spec (in my eyes) but the buckets make it special for me. I was thinking of a gt4 next so the question I have is...do you think I can command a good value for it or is it a keeper. Still has 20 months Porsche warranty and just had a major service at 4 years old with 16k miles. It's also yellow with 20 classic Carrara alloys- purchased from an opc. It would be great for hear your opinions...tia

Edited by Paul_D on Saturday 20th January 21:05

jonttt

681 posts

171 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Yes it is a very high spec S but....... does it have dual climate lol

You should get a top end S price for it and it would offer great value compared to a higher priced GTS but the problem with that spec is that the price would not reflect all of the options ie once the price gets too far above a “nice” S people would rather have a GTS IMHO. I also fear PCCB would put a lot of buyers off in this type of car ie people won’t pay a premium for them in an S.

Other factors would also be material to command really top money for an S ie mileage, full leather, full phone prep (not just Bluetooth), dual aircon etc....

It would sell quickly if priced correctly due to the spec but it would not fetch GTS money IMHO.

bcr5784

7,109 posts

145 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Paul_D said:
Hi everyone. New on here but have read a lot of the forum stuff. I am not sure if I have a 'uniform' spec Cayman 981s- sports chrono, pasm, ptv, pse, sports tailpipes, sports design steering wheel, pccb , buckets and manual transmission. Pcm, 20gb jukebox and Bluetooth mobile prep etc. It is basically a gts spec (in my eyes) but the buckets make it special for me. I was thinking of a gt4 next so the question I have is...do you think I can command a good value for it or is it a keeper. Still has 20 months Porsche warranty and just had a major service at 4 years old with 16k miles. It's also yellow with 20 classic Carrara alloys- purchased from an opc. It would be great for hear your opinions...tia

Edited by Paul_D on Saturday 20th January 21:05
The colour will be a problem for many. Perhaps OK for a GT4, but a bit in your face for an S. I know the colour Porsche buyers choose won't follow the same profile as Ford drivers, but http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-new... does show that overall yellow isn't a popular choice. (I've nothing personally against yellow cars - I've owned 3)

Paul_D

51 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Hi thanks for the response. The yellow was not my initial choice but it looks amazing both day and night and grown fond of it - get a lot of compliments too.
It does not have dual climate control or full leather.

I was just querying if its a keeper or what would i expect to put it up for?thanks

Thanks

Edited by Paul_D on Monday 22 January 11:02

JayK12

2,324 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Does it have a leather dash?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 12th February 2018
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You felt the need to quote what someone said on page 1 of a 7 page thread that hasn't been commented on in nearly 3 weeks? I'm guessing it's because of a comment they made about 718s in another post?

If so, I think you need to grow a thicker skin biggrin

Ben-v0vyj

30 posts

73 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Opc in Leicester seem hopeful

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...

Also, 3 owners in 827 miles?

Edited by Ben-v0vyj on Sunday 22 April 22:50

Milnsey

211 posts

220 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Ben-v0vyj said:
Opc in Leicester seem hopeful

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-customer/ipl/detail...

Also, 3 owners in 827 miles?
Optimistic pricing yes. Most are below 60k now

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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That car hung around for ages at an Indy from new and will likely hang around for ages again now.

A large premium for a PTS and low miles car, but if it's your bag it's a unique purchase.

Koln-RS

3,864 posts

212 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Friend of mine just paid over £60k for a 981 GTS, from an OPC, so the market for these is strong.

Three owners and 800 mls, suggests it's been owned by 'collectors'. But, Viper Green is a very desirable colour and actually looks better than the pics. The rest of the spec isn't particularly exceptional. I'd be wanting dual climate and pccbs at that price.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Koln-RS said:
I'd be wanting dual climate.
Have 'manuel' a/c on both GT4 and Spyder and works as well as auto.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Koln-RS said:
Friend of mine just paid over £60k for a 981 GTS, from an OPC, so the market for these is strong.
Agreed, as long as it's PDK. Manual cars seem to hang around quite a while unless they're cheap or specced as a poor man's GT4 with buckets/manual/X73 suspension.

Ben-v0vyj

30 posts

73 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Koln-RS said:
Friend of mine just paid over £60k for a 981 GTS, from an OPC, so the market for these is strong.

Three owners and 800 mls, suggests it's been owned by 'collectors'. But, Viper Green is a very desirable colour and actually looks better than the pics. The rest of the spec isn't particularly exceptional. I'd be wanting dual climate and pccbs at that price.
I actually love Viper Green, but the premium being asked for that and low mileage, isn't worth the lack of options on this car. I'd be expecting nearly every option ticked for the price.

shiggy

66 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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still looking for a well spec'd pdk carmine GTS...anyone ??

nw942

456 posts

105 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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There's one advertised at RPM Technik: https://rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/cayman-gts-...