718 GT4 limited again?
Discussion
EvoSid said:
Very good points and I think there will be many smaller companies looking at the Toyota Yaris Gr and thinking could we do it, But bear in mind the Yaris is almost and accidental car . What we need is a return to homologation by production to compete in BTTC / Rally events and then we can have the likes of the Volvo T5, Mondeo, Cavalier, etc plus the Sccobies , Evos, Toyotas again as people want to clearly drive what others need to produce to race. Could you imagine road versions of some of the roads cars we could get like a VW CC , BMW 3 series etc and from the rally stages such as VW Polo, Hyundais, Skodas and the rest that give these smaller brands a big lift in kudos in the showroom
I can only live in hope I guess :-)
The Hyundai i20N could be quite an interesting thing ... but the same recipe as Fiesta / Clio / Mini ... the GR Yaris is something else ..I can only live in hope I guess :-)
I really don't get the GR Yaris love - it's a £35k underpowered warm hatch with a few trick bits and a 3-pot engine. It's not the iconic performance bargain the original Scoob turbos were!
I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
Twinfan said:
I really don't get the GR Yaris love - it's a £35k underpowered warm hatch with a few trick bits and a 3-pot engine. It's not the iconic performance bargain the original Scoob turbos were!
I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
It's the only homologation car on sale today and many of the great road cars of the last five decades have been homologations cars so I think that's why it's getting so much attention. Reviews are pretty good so I guess the only way to know it so decide. Seems like it's got more 40 year old plus men buying it than a typical Toyota hatch back though I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
I found the GR fairly inert and, from a feedback point of view, similar to other modern hot hatches. What it is is very fast on the road, especially in imperfect conditions - could definitely show up some serious machinery.
If you want a fast and comfortable daily that has the cool factor then it's a consideration. For me I was looking for a more feelsome car and not something that was just quick point to point. Depends on what you're looking for
If you want a fast and comfortable daily that has the cool factor then it's a consideration. For me I was looking for a more feelsome car and not something that was just quick point to point. Depends on what you're looking for
Edited by Xfe on Saturday 13th February 22:19
Xfe said:
I found the GR fairly inert and. from a feedback point of view, similar to other modern hot hatches. What it is is very fast on the road, especially in imperfect conditions - could definitely show up some serious machinery.
If you want a fast and comfortable daily that has the cool factor then it's a consideration. For me I was looking for a more feelsome car and not something that was just quick point to point. Depends on what you're looking for
Perfect summary of my own thoughts. The Yaris is unreal in terms of ground covering. It gets to the point where you just think how fIf you want a fast and comfortable daily that has the cool factor then it's a consideration. For me I was looking for a more feelsome car and not something that was just quick point to point. Depends on what you're looking for
king bad is this accident going to be? With the Cayman I drove the rear let's go and you have to really think how about how much throttle each bend requires? The engine is also unrelenting till you get to 150 and then think 'is the really sensible?'.
Very different approaches and for me it is going to have to be which gives me the bigger smile?
Twinfan said:
I really don't get the GR Yaris love - it's a £35k underpowered warm hatch with a few trick bits and a 3-pot engine. It's not the iconic performance bargain the original Scoob turbos were!
I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
For the road, I'd take a Fiesta St instead, more fun according to the Pistenheads review..I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
Twinfan said:
I really don't get the GR Yaris love - it's a £35k underpowered warm hatch with a few trick bits and a 3-pot engine. It's not the iconic performance bargain the original Scoob turbos were!
I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
What like the GT4.......seems strange that the car keeps appearing on Porsche forums.I think they'll be a flash in the pan that will be quickly offloaded once the novelty wears off...
I'd be interested to know what percentage of purchasers are historical Porsche customers.
Of course the GR Yaris is completely different, but I think in a rather good way.
The days of faster, bigger, heavier, more-powerful, ... are surely numbered if only because it is all rather counter-productive in the risk / reward / fun stakes. IMHO.
Of course the GR Yaris is completely different, but I think in a rather good way.
The days of faster, bigger, heavier, more-powerful, ... are surely numbered if only because it is all rather counter-productive in the risk / reward / fun stakes. IMHO.
ChrisW. said:
I'd be interested to know what percentage of purchasers are historical Porsche customers.
Of course the GR Yaris is completely different, but I think in a rather good way.
The days of faster, bigger, heavier, more-powerful, ... are surely numbered if only because it is all rather counter-productive in the risk / reward / fun stakes. IMHO.
I agree with your last sentence completely. More often than not I find myself disinterested in new sports/supercars simply because they just seem unusably fast for the modern road network. Modern Ferraris, Lambos...even 911s tend to come across in reviews like you have to be going illegally fast or driving like you're on a race track down a B road at breakneck speed before you get any enjoyment out of them.Of course the GR Yaris is completely different, but I think in a rather good way.
The days of faster, bigger, heavier, more-powerful, ... are surely numbered if only because it is all rather counter-productive in the risk / reward / fun stakes. IMHO.
At least with the GT4 (and the 4.0GTS) you are doing a little less of an illegal speed before you have fun. Same reason I have been looking at F360s fora while now - I feel like I would get a thrill from the sound of the V8 even at walking pace. If anyone has heard (and I use that word ironically) the SF90, you will know what I mean about modern cars being all about speed and zero about soul...
Christ, I'm getting old...
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