Cayman GTS residuals - Porsche Financing

Cayman GTS residuals - Porsche Financing

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timberman

1,284 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Porsche911R said:
you forget PCP allows people to buy cars they cannot really afford and it keeps the monthly lower but they pay £25k in interest to allow it.

A loan is 4 x the monthly payments and of course better/cheaper over all but people cannot afford the payments.
my last car was on a PCP but the rate was just 0.9 % so seemed like a no brainer,

as it turned out I never really got on with it so paid it off after about 11 months and sold it.

Edited by timberman on Tuesday 23 January 17:17

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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I did the PCP maths when my son bought his Mini Cooper S last year. I've always been fortunate to be able to buy cash but I understand PCP is the "norm" nowadays and those who can afford the monthly payments are just as well off as me in doing so.

It's not the interest rate that's the key, it's the "guaranteed" balloon payment.

Can't remember why exactly but I sensed a con in favour of the dealer (shock, horror!).

He went to the bank of grandad instead, interest free. I reckon a personal loan would be the way to go so you can decide exactly when you want to move the car on and not suffer early redemption clauses or similar. You're more in control. It's "your" money and car.

PS. Grandad is not lending money at present.

CastroSays

182 posts

76 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Surely no-one expects the 718 CGTS to depreciate as well as the 981 CGTS?

The 981 is a future classic. The 4-cylinder 718 is just well mehhhhh......

ags11

569 posts

140 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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PCP lets manufacturers sell overpriced goods.
I'm not pointing out Porsche exclusively, but look at the prices of a 718 with a few options?!
If no-one is ever actually buying and paying for them the whole market is false inmho.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Who says you have to buy them? You can lease them or as in a PCP just pay the depreciation and hand it back. It's just a different way to get into the car you want to drive.

Why do threads about financing a car on PH always generate snobbish attitudes?

911wise

1,867 posts

209 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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86.5% of new cars were bought on finance last year. A statistic that seems to be turned on it’s head on PH!

ags11

569 posts

140 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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I've financed plenty in my time. It's nothing to do with snobbery. I just don't think the recent spike in pcps is gonna do the general car market any favours in the long term. I'm not gonna judge how anyone wants to spend their money! It's up to any individual how much depreciation /monthly they think is acceptable to drive what they want.

Ady128

535 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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911wise said:
86.5% of new cars were bought on finance last year. A statistic that seems to be turned on it’s head on PH!
Crikey! I'm one of the 13.5% then, but I'm old fashioned and don't like being in debt.

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Ady128 said:
Crikey! I'm one of the 13.5% then, but I'm old fashioned and don't like being in debt.
But you have no protection if you buy anything with cash, at least with finance if something goes tits up with the car the finance company have more clout than you?

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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Twinfan said:
Cars people can't really afford? Here we go again with the famous Porsche owner's stereotype of condescending and elitist comments. If you can afford the PCP payments then you can afford the car - simple as that.

Anyway, back on topic, my Porsche finance interest rate is 6.9%. My bank only loans up to £20k so they weren't an option for me when I was buying. If you can get a £50k personal loan at 3.4% then I'd certainly take it!
Totally agree why do you think the manufacturers introduced it? Err lets see if we can sell more cars?

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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CastroSays said:
Surely no-one expects the 718 CGTS to depreciate as well as the 981 CGTS?

The 981 is a future classic. The 4-cylinder 718 is just well mehhhhh......
sleep

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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hixster said:
I've been speccing up a 718GTS with medium to reasonable spec. The car is coming out circa £70k mark.

With 6K miles per year over 3 years (18K total), the Porsche finance example has the residual/balloon at £42k.

I'm aware OPC are usually conservative on residual values, but I'm seeing similarly specced 981GTSs at 3 years old for sale at between £54k and £60k.
Who's to say the 718 GTS will hold its value in the same way, but if it did, this would leave some reasonable 'equity' as they call it in the car.

I'm just curious what residual figures any 981 GTS owners were quoted when buying new on similarly priced cars.
Dont forget what you see on the forecourt is much much more than the value trade especially at an OPC.

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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PCP's can work in your favour? i bet people who bought diesels wished they had a guaranteed value after 3 years as values have dropped like a stone.

tedblog

1,438 posts

80 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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DJMC said:
I did the PCP maths when my son bought his Mini Cooper S last year. I've always been fortunate to be able to buy cash but I understand PCP is the "norm" nowadays and those who can afford the monthly payments are just as well off as me in doing so.

It's not the interest rate that's the key, it's the "guaranteed" balloon payment.

Can't remember why exactly but I sensed a con in favour of the dealer (shock, horror!).

He went to the bank of grandad instead, interest free. I reckon a personal loan would be the way to go so you can decide exactly when you want to move the car on and not suffer early redemption clauses or similar. You're more in control. It's "your" money and car.

PS. Grandad is not lending money at present.
Even if you own the car you are still at the mercy of the dealers or westealanycar.com. You want to move the car on you either accept trade value or sell privately, the latter much more difficult if your car is of some value.
Dont forget your cars value is driven by pcp values as the more they sell the more enter the used market.