Boxster 981 outside of the OPC bubble

[Twinfan]

What we're talking about has nothing to do with the actual skills involved in servicing a modern Porsche, but everything to do with the average buyer's perception of who did the work.

[bcr5784]

Porsche911R said:

I think your ignorance has shown you up this time sorry to say.

I bet you have an OPC service, come back and tell us if you choose other wise and if people ask you about the cars history come sale time, as for cheap leads, they cannot do much and if the garage I choose did not have the piwis tools I would not trust them to touch my car that’s for sure. It’s this ignorance which make you look a bit daft. Cheap obd readers offer jack st sorry to say, I have quite expensive leads as I own a few porkers and buy a few so I like to check faults misfires and over revs etc,

Even to change fluid you need to be able to trigger the abs etc none of the cheap crap can do this even.

A friend of mine professionally assesses Porsches for potential customers and doesn't feel the need for the Porsche specific OBD software. I think he knows what he is doing,,,,, but of course you may know better. Any Indie can change brake fluid - and so could I - freely available software can reset warnings.

Will I have an OPC service? - If I do it's only because I have little faith in the intelligence/knowledge of some punters, which regretably this thread reinforces..

[Tim718]

bcr5784 said:

I've sold a lot of cars in the past (including the odd Porsche) and NOT ONE person (including dealers!) has ever asked to see the service book prior to commiting to purchase.

by bcr5784 on Saturday 10th February 16:35

bcr5784 said:

Will I have an OPC service? - If I do it's only because I have little faith in the intelligence/knowledge of some punters, which regretably this thread reinforces..

Earlier in the thread you’ve said it didn’t make a difference, and not one person had ever asked about it when you’ve sold in the past?

After all of that ranting pretty much saying how stupid it was to go OPC, you’re still considering going OPC yourself.

I’m starting to think this whole thread is a wind up

Edited by Tim718 on Saturday 10th February 22:37

[DJMC]

bcr5784 said:

Indies are not random garages - they are Porsche specialists more often than not trained by Porsche. I've sold a lot of cars in the past (including the odd Porsche) and NOT ONE person (including dealers!) has ever asked to see the service book prior to commiting to purchase.

Edited by bcr5784 on Saturday 10th February 16:35

Having visited RPM Technik a few Sundays back for a club meet I was impressed by their set up, history, knowledge, and Greig's talk to the Cayman owners gathered.

I phoned him in the following week to see if their servicing my 981 would be "allowed" and have any affect on my extended warranty. He said not and I believe him, as they apparently have access direct to factory same as an OPC. I would absolutely trust this firm with servicing my car.

BUT... it would affect the resale value of my car as the majority of purchasers would never have heard of RPM or trust anyone but an OPC. Similarly, if I were offered a car with a book full of RPM service stamps I would feel assured it had received the utmost quality servicing over its life BUT... I'd pass it by, as MY future resale of the car would be affected as the majority of purchasers would never have heard of RPM or trust anyone but an OPC.

My major 40k service would have been a few hundred cheaper at RPM but no loan Macan for the day, and a three hour round trip.
I am sure I would lose more money when selling on my car than I'd save by having it indy serviced. I always check the service book and phone the last servicing dealer for advisories/info before buying any car, as I did with my 981.

[Porsche911R]

Tim718 said:

Earlier in the thread you’ve said it didn’t make a difference, and not one person had ever asked about it when you’ve sold in the past?

After all of that ranting pretty much saying how stupid it was to go OPC, you’re still considering going OPC yourself.

I’m starting to think this whole thread is a wind up

Edited by Tim718 on Saturday 10th February 22:37

Of course he will get it serviced by an OPC , the whole thing is daft as normal.

[bcr5784]

DJMC said:

BUT... it would affect the resale value of my car as the majority of purchasers would never have heard of RPM or trust anyone but an OPC. Similarly, if I were offered a car with a book full of RPM service stamps I would feel assured it had received the utmost quality servicing over its life BUT... I'd pass it by, as MY future resale of the car would be affected as the majority of purchasers would never have heard of RPM or trust anyone but an OPC.

Clearly both your perception and mine are merely opinions. It would be interesting to hear from a dealer who actually sells Porsches who would actually know better. If there is a difference, I can't detect it in advertised prices - but only sold prices count of course. As is often (and probably accurately) said PHers are probably not that representative of the great Porsche unwashed out there.

You make a valid point about fringe benefits - I took my car to my OPC for the last MOT. They can only charge £60 for that and you get a nice courtesy car and a "free" wash for that. An opportunity to drive a Macan was nice (even if I'd never buy one), but generally I'm perfectly happy with a family hatch as a courtesy car.

Edited by bcr5784 on Sunday 11th February 08:58