“How can YOU afford THAT”??

“How can YOU afford THAT”??

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SV_WDC

707 posts

89 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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OP will be in for some fun when people mistake CayMAN for CayENNE.

Timbo_Mint

623 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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SV_WDC said:
OP will be in for some fun when people mistake CayMAN for CayENNE.
What?

Wait. Are you saying he's NOT brought a big, ostentatious, SUV with no more right to carry a Porsche badge than a weevil?

Now I'm beginning to wonder why I felt any sympathy for him.

smile

Tim bo

1,956 posts

140 months

Wednesday 14th March 2018
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sr.guiri said:
To the majority of people, this car reeks of ostentation, that the owner is a poseur, a show off - it's a look at me car. I'm not saying that is necessarily my opinion, but that is what people think. You drive one of these and you'll get more insults than praise.
That may be your anecdotal experience.

To take it as fact I'd need a certified poll of 'the majority of people' (how many is that, exactly) who ticked a box stating their belief that owning a Porsche 'reeks of ostentation' - or words to that effect.

I have no such anecdotal experience. I have had very few comments about my Porsche, but 0% of those have been about showing-off, posing, or any reference to any form of ostentation, and 100% have been positive - from a non-car person; 'nice colour' right through to a car-person; 'I bet that drives brilliantly'.

I therefore call bullst.

Anecdotally, of course. smile

Edited by Tim bo on Wednesday 14th March 17:51

hilly10

7,122 posts

228 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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CaineIsCarter said:




I’m thinking of telling people I’m a meth dealer. I thought I’d share a few pics of the car with like-minded folk. Hope you like them; it makes me insanely happy, and this next week is going to take forever!
Love the colour. Enjoy your car

Rojibo

1,728 posts

77 months

Sunday 18th March 2018
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Not so much the how can you afford that comment, but had my passenger window down as my girlfriend was feeling a bit travel sick and we were stuck in a traffic jam.

Some kid walking past loudly goes, it’s not a real Porsche anyway, just a boxster, to which I replied, where’s yours, bellend.

Except I think it came out a bit more, where’s your bellend? And I may have come across as a particularly aggressive cottager hehe

K1909

101 posts

153 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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I work in the public sector too, and when I bought my 987 boxster, I wasn't worried about what people think, going into the car park with that roof down maybe drew a bit of attention, but what's the point of having a soft top if you can't put it down. Most people complimented me, with only one guy saying, "Porsche boy" how do you afford that, in which I would usually respond saying it was cheaper than your new golf.

My jobs changed now, and my boss said I may need to consider my car as I would be going out potentially facing the public a bit more. So at Christmas I did consider it, and with a bit to much time on my hands, I found a nice blue 996. Several visits to the dealer, a deal was struck and i bought it. I was a bit worried again about what people may think, but then thought who cares, I like my cars, and work hard to fuel my passion. The best bit was when I parked next to our chief exec, and she came over complimented me and said I should be proud for owning it.

Who cares what people think, go and enjoy your new car OP, you've worked for it.

MadMarkM3

1,754 posts

149 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Totally understand the comments on here, but I hope you're loving your new Porsches!

The jealously thing is something I can releate to, because I'm a car nut. I eat, sleep and breathe cars. All I want to do is think of the next one (up to 32 and counting). I'm comfortably off, so I like to have a new car every year, but some years I have had two or three, all cash, no finance.
Some nice stuff, but about 6 BMW's - a 325i Coupe, a couple of 330i's, a couple of M3's and latterly an M4 Competition Pack in Black. That got lots of comments raging from "beatutiful car" to "drug dealers wheels", so I sold it and bought a petrol Audi SQ5 that gets no comments at all!

I've also had 4 Porsches - two Boxsters (a 987S an a 981 S to my "everything" spec), plus a 997 Carrera S and a 997 GT3. Now it was these that seemed to really inflame colleagues and friends, but someone in a van once tossed a large cup of coke out the window while I was passing in the first Boxster with the roof down. Cue lots of cleaning. Everyone stared at the GT3 in town, but on the open road, other users hated me overtaking, even if they were doing 40 in a 60 limit! Others moved over to block my overtakes. Some just sped up - which I didn't mind at all.

Even though I worked in an Oil and Gas company and everyone seemingly earnt double or tripple what I did (I'm in HR so you know what everyone earns); I got plenty of negative comments. "We're obviously paying you too much" was the common one, but I knew some of them had huge houses / mistresses / kids at private school etc. My retort was always that "we spend our money on different things and what I do with mine is my business".

I'll buy another Porsche, probably a new 911, but this time it won't be an everyday car. It'll live in the garage, never go to work and only come out on sunny weekends.

notsomadmick

161 posts

160 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Sadly as we get older we learn of two key reasons why we end up with unexpected negative remarks when we have something nice.
1. Jealously is real and it's quite common.
2. And some people simply aren't interested in what lights your fire.
(Although ultimately it is somewhat rude not to show some interest or pass a positive about something you like.)
Conclusion: Some people aren't who you thought they were - and that's what is disappointing - not what they care about your wheels.
Enjoy you car! If you didn't steal it - then you worked hard for it.
Good for you.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,006 posts

102 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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In a similar vein I have noticed that some of my friends can be a bit jealousy/off about a mate of ours that has gone from porky to an outstanding physique. Some people wont say "well done mate, you look excellent" they have to pick at him and his achievement because they aren't fit them selves.

So now I always make a point to congratulate or compliment people who are doing well at something.

v8ksn

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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MadMarkM3 said:
Totally understand the comments on here, but I hope you're loving your new Porsches!

The jealously thing is something I can releate to, because I'm a car nut. I eat, sleep and breathe cars. All I want to do is think of the next one (up to 32 and counting). I'm comfortably off, so I like to have a new car every year, but some years I have had two or three, all cash, no finance.
Some nice stuff, but about 6 BMW's - a 325i Coupe, a couple of 330i's, a couple of M3's and latterly an M4 Competition Pack in Black. That got lots of comments raging from "beatutiful car" to "drug dealers wheels", so I sold it and bought a petrol Audi SQ5 that gets no comments at all!

I've also had 4 Porsches - two Boxsters (a 987S an a 981 S to my "everything" spec), plus a 997 Carrera S and a 997 GT3. Now it was these that seemed to really inflame colleagues and friends, but someone in a van once tossed a large cup of coke out the window while I was passing in the first Boxster with the roof down. Cue lots of cleaning. Everyone stared at the GT3 in town, but on the open road, other users hated me overtaking, even if they were doing 40 in a 60 limit! Others moved over to block my overtakes. Some just sped up - which I didn't mind at all.

Even though I worked in an Oil and Gas company and everyone seemingly earnt double or tripple what I did (I'm in HR so you know what everyone earns); I got plenty of negative comments. "We're obviously paying you too much" was the common one, but I knew some of them had huge houses / mistresses / kids at private school etc. My retort was always that "we spend our money on different things and what I do with mine is my business".

I'll buy another Porsche, probably a new 911, but this time it won't be an everyday car. It'll live in the garage, never go to work and only come out on sunny weekends.
Hi Mark, hope you are well wavey

Your 997 GT3 STILL garners a few negative comments. Most recently it was in a supermarket car park when I passed a 500 stone woman who was wearing pyjama bottoms and slippers and she said "Pay your fking taxes" as I drove past her! yikes

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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I'm lucky in that our carpark contains some nice metal (my CEO drives - among other things - a Bentley SS 710), so I think my CGTS didn't really stand out THAT much, but it was still a sportscar in a sea of Audis and BMWs. I'd like to think that any envy at work, was based simply around people wishing they were able to buy one instead of the 3/5 series they felt they had to buy in order to ferry the family around. biggrin

irocfan

40,440 posts

190 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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Paul_D said:
I am more surprised with our friends across the pond in the USA where most people in their 20s are driving a 981/GTS. Good on them and take advantage of the cheap petrol prices smile
in fairness that's quite possibly due to stonking deals over there too (seen quite a few 0% deals and even those that aren't are a LOT lower than some of the 'fantastic' deals we get offered by our dealers)



Ilovejapcrap said:
I had a friend kick off because I purchased a motorbike ( a 2.5 grand one at that).

People are horrible
truth be told that's not a friend.

If a friend of mine is able to afford something nice I'm happy for them, I may say "you 'lucky' git!" but that's not an expression of jealousy. Far from it.


v8ksn said:
KPB1973 said:
Brilliant comment.

This is your thread but indulge me for a few moments here, as there's a point to my waffle.

I didn't buy my (2009) 987.2 new, but I took my 4-y-old to pick it up with me on Xmas eve just gone. He was excited from the moment he clapped eyes on it, and loves 'Daddy's racing car'.

It was a little, relatively inexpensive, Xmas pressie to myself that was partially-funded by inheritance after losing both my parents in the last 3 years.

Dad was a motor mechanic most of his working life, prior to that did time in the sharp end of the armed forces and was lucky to see beyond his mid-20s. He was the person who always encouraged me to experience as many fun cars as I could. 'You only live once son...' he'd say.

Mom was the speed freak. She loved any car with poke and always wanted a passenger ride when I had a new-to-me hot hatch etc.

In between their passings, my lad had emergency open heart surgery. That was an eye-opener to say the least.

For all my missus knows about cars, it could be a Trabant, but she insists on having the top down irrespective of weather because she loves the rush of the air and being able to see the sky (she also tells me off if I go over the speed limit).

So when I see that 'oh look its the mid-life crisis man in his Porsche' expression on a few people's faces, I don't feel like I have to justify anything to anyone. In the back of my mind I know the reasons why I bought it. The key fob with 'Happy Motoring, Daddy' means more to me than the Zuffenhaus badge on the fob.

You, like everyone else on here, will have your own story of life's ups-and-downs - and i'm just chuffed you've made a very sensible decision to enjoy your life even more. Good on you.

Drive safe, give it some proper beans, and report back!
Love this! clap
and another - brought a tear to my eye. Thanks for sharing.



I'm in a similar situation, not with regards to Porsche (not my poison I'm afraid - though the Cayman really is starting to change my mind, the blue one is a gorgeous colour!), but currently I'm working as a (nearly) minimum wage wallah and at the weekend I sometimes turn up in my SLK55. Cue many questions of the "how can you afford" type. In that regard I'm luckier than many on here since, as well as the 'goody two shoes answer' (Adam Ant reference there to show my age!) I can actually say "well I'm more than twice your age!".

In fairness I've not had many negative comments - though I do remember some old harridan many years ago saying "you need to grow up and get a sensible car" She couldn't explain why though

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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When people come to my house and see the garages it inevitably leads to 'Can I see the cars?' so I do the tour.

The next statement is always, "But you're so normal?!?".

To which I reply, "What do you mean 'normal' "?

"Well, I thought people with supercars were arrogant"

"How many have you met?"

"Err, just you"

"They're just cars and it took me until I was 44 to buy one. It never occurred to me to turn into an ahole* as I left the dealership"

If I had a pound for every time I had that exact conversation I would have enough for half of a tank of fuel, nearly. Pre conceptions eh.

Not the same but related...

Driving along in my 458 Spider. 2 women, 2 buggies, small boy and a small girl. The kids are pointing at the car. So, I pull over and ask the women if the little boy and girl would like to sit in it. Yup, they say. As the little boy is getting in the Mum utters the immortal words....

"You'll never have one of these son"

It took me all my willpower not to explode. I mean FFS, he's 5 or 6 and she's limiting his life expectations already. I just said "You can have anything you want if you want it enough" and smiled at Mum. I should have added, "and if you get it just remember this, you don't have to be an ahole about it although people may assume you are".

* any more than I already was anyway

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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^^^^ excellent post :-)

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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_Leg_ said:
Driving along in my 458 Spider. 2 women, 2 buggies, small boy and a small girl. The kids are pointing at the car. So, I pull over and ask the women if the little boy and girl would like to sit in it. Yup, they say. As the little boy is getting in the Mum utters the immortal words....

"You'll never have one of these son"
I have had almost exactly the same conversation more than once with young lads who said, "I'll never have anything like that' (It's a CGTS dude - not a space shuttle).

Used to make me frustrated and sad in equal measure.

When I would say, "Why the hell not?", the lads could never answer. Kinda ummed and ahhed and then would land on never having enough money.

I'd sort of exasperatedly say that they should not be writing themselves off at 13/14. I'd explain that I wasn't gifted my car - I worked hard and saved up...but you don't have to save up buckets of money because when you get older you will find that you can buy large items like houses and cars a slightly different way to how you would buy a pair of trainers or a new jacket....so don't think for one minute, that owning something like this is out of reach.

The real irony is that my S5 listed not a million miles away from what I paid for my CGTS (before discount on the S5) and I'd like to bet that not a single one of those same lads would look at the Audi and think it was in the same league as the CGTS...or in the same way unachievable.

Just makes me sad when kids have already given up on themselves before they've even finished school. Who the feck is giving them that message? Their parents? The school? Society? All of the above??

Anyway...

jonttt

681 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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_Leg_ said:
When people come to my house and see the garages it inevitably leads to 'Can I see the cars?' so I do the tour.

The next statement is always, "But you're so normal?!?".

To which I reply, "What do you mean 'normal' "?

"Well, I thought people with supercars were arrogant"

"How many have you met?"

"Err, just you"

"They're just cars and it took me until I was 44 to buy one. It never occurred to me to turn into an ahole* as I left the dealership"

If I had a pound for every time I had that exact conversation I would have enough for half of a tank of fuel, nearly. Pre conceptions eh.

Not the same but related...

Driving along in my 458 Spider. 2 women, 2 buggies, small boy and a small girl. The kids are pointing at the car. So, I pull over and ask the women if the little boy and girl would like to sit in it. Yup, they say. As the little boy is getting in the Mum utters the immortal words....

"You'll never have one of these son"

It took me all my willpower not to explode. I mean FFS, he's 5 or 6 and she's limiting his life expectations already. I just said "You can have anything you want if you want it enough" and smiled at Mum. I should have added, "and if you get it just remember this, you don't have to be an ahole about it although people may assume you are".

* any more than I already was anyway
I'm an ar$eh0le so had to get an appropriate car(s) lol

Its amazing how much pure joy a ride in a car can give a kid. One of my earliest memories is caddying for my dad on "captains day" (2 rounds of golf involved) and over lunch my dad asked his golfing partner for the day, who I had just spent the morning with, if I could sit in his car. I had no idea what he had, he tossed me the keys to his Rolls Royce and I was like a kid in a sweet shop. Its the first time that I'd sat in a car that had electric seats ! (I am going back c40 years ago). I could not get over how "normal" the guy was.

It taught me one of the best lessons of my life

Fast forward 30 years and my next door neighbour (who I did not really know other than she had got divorced and had to sell up) knocked on the door, "we are moving tomorrow, do you mind if my son has a ride in your car", [F430 convertable] I was a little shocked but no problem bring him round and we can go out now. He was about 7/8 and we went for a spin for 30 min, after initially being quite / shy he came back with the biggest grin on his face. It was a privilege to take him for a drive. Hopefully it inspired him to work hard and set goals, his mother was in tears when we got back, she obviously had a lot going on in her life and to see her kid so happy was priceless. I never really new her / him but still remember that day and was the polar opposite of people being jealous.

In general however I find a Ferrari in particular brings out the worst in people on the street (I've had lots of bad experiences)


Edited by jonttt on Tuesday 20th March 17:18

BE57JAM

309 posts

74 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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Rojibo said:
Not so much the how can you afford that comment, but had my passenger window down as my girlfriend was feeling a bit travel sick and we were stuck in a traffic jam.

Some kid walking past loudly goes, it’s not a real Porsche anyway, just a boxster, to which I replied, where’s yours, bellend.

Except I think it came out a bit more, where’s your bellend? And I may have come across as a particularly aggressive cottager hehe
That’s hilarious. Also bloody cheeky of the kid that said that.

All the same. I collected my first Porsche Saturday just gone. On the drive home my Mrs spotted a little boy leaning out the rear window giving us lots of waves and humbs up. Made my other half’s day smile

BE57JAM

309 posts

74 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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Some great stories here chaps

MadMarkM3

1,754 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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v8ksn said:
Hi Mark, hope you are well wavey

Your 997 GT3 STILL garners a few negative comments. Most recently it was in a supermarket car park when I passed a 500 stone woman who was wearing pyjama bottoms and slippers and she said "Pay your fking taxes" as I drove past her! yikes
Hi Kul, very good thanks! yes I trust that you and the family are well?

Very good to hear that you've still got her - but if you will shop at ASDA - what do you expect? smile

MadMarkM3

1,754 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th March 2018
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jonttt said:
I'm an ar$eh0le so had to get an appropriate car(s) lol

Its amazing how much pure joy a ride in a car can give a kid. One of my earliest memories is caddying for my dad on "captains day" (2 rounds of golf involved) and over lunch my dad asked his golfing partner for the day, who I had just spent the morning with, if I could sit in his car. I had no idea what he had, he tossed me the keys to his Rolls Royce and I was like a kid in a sweet shop. Its the first time that I'd sat in a car that had electric seats ! (I am going back c40 years ago). I could not get over how "normal" the guy was.

It taught me one of the best lessons of my life

Fast forward 30 years and my next door neighbour (who I did not really know other than she had got divorced and had to sell up) knocked on the door, "we are moving tomorrow, do you mind if my son has a ride in your car", [F430 convertable] I was a little shocked but no problem bring him round and we can go out now. He was about 7/8 and we went for a spin for 30 min, after initially being quite / shy he came back with the biggest grin on his face. It was a privilege to take him for a drive. Hopefully it inspired him to work hard and set goals, his mother was in tears when we got back, she obviously had a lot going on in her life and to see her kid so happy was priceless. I never really new her / him but still remember that day and was the polar opposite of people being jealous.

In general however I find a Ferrari in particular brings out the worst in people on the street (I've had lots of bad experiences)


Edited by jonttt on Tuesday 20th March 17:18
Good on you for doing that! smile

The Ferrari experience and a 430 particularly, is an itch I'd love to scratch - but you chaps seem to get the most polarised reactions of all. When someone put a parking graze on my M4 last year and I was getting a quote to fix it - I saw a new 488 that had been keyed on every single panel about 3 times and when I asked what they repair bill would be for it - they said about £5K as they were going to have to respray the entire car over a two week period. That's not something that I want to ever experience ..... I think it would bring me to tears, or I'd want to kill the scroat who did it!