R8 V10+ to GT4

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RSbandit

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2,603 posts

132 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Hi guys considering a change from my 2014 plus and one of the cars I'm thinking of is the GT4, dont expect it would cost much to switch but has anyone made a similar change? Given that the R8 cost significantly more new than a GT4 did does that cost diff show or are these GT4's underpriced to begin with? I've tracked my car quite a few times now so my understanding is that's the GT4's natural environment...all thoughts comments welcome cheers!

Swimfinz

315 posts

108 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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RSbandit said:
Given that the R8 cost significantly more new than a GT4 did does that cost diff show or are these GT4's underpriced to begin with?
^^^^ This.... wink

isaldiri

18,580 posts

168 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Personally I'd never make that switch having had both cars before unless you were planning to do a lot of trackwork.

v8ksn

4,711 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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The R8 V10 is a magnificent engine, as I am sure you know. The GT4's will feel flat in comparrison.

If your R8 V10 is a manual gearbox version I would hold onto it with both hands!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Even if it's not manual, be prepared for the GT4 engine to be less inspiring. The GT4 is all about the handling, and I would suggest you need to do regular track work to enjoy it most.

boxsey

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210 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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I'm sure the R8 engine is on a different level but for me the GT4 is a brilliant package and ticks all my boxes for a road going track car. I certainly don't feel short changed by the engine. Makes me grin ear to ear each time I wind up. All passengers so far have loved it too.

RSbandit

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Wednesday 18th April 2018
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v8ksn said:
The R8 V10 is a magnificent engine, as I am sure you know. The GT4's will feel flat in comparrison.

If your R8 V10 is a manual gearbox version I would hold onto it with both hands!
It has the S tronic which is mighty when mated to that engine...yeah I'm guessing that the Gt4's outright performance might feel a little flat compared to the V10 but I'll certainly line up a test drive to see

Bilen1

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106 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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I went the other way.

GT4 to R8 Spyder (current shape).

Miss the scalpel handling of the GT4 and the manual interaction at times.

Missed the convertible aspect of my 987 Boxster Spyder (which I regret selling & still prefer to the GT4).

It is a completely different proposition and depends on what you are after. If you do a bit of track work the GT4 will be much better.

Although GT4 engine in its own right is great, its not a patch on the V10 and I "only" have the 540 bhp version.

R8 feels heavier, but for me I use it more and has more sense of occasion.

Go try a GT4 it is a very special car.

Koln-RS

3,864 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Depends what you want and how you intend to use it.

I see, in the latest EVO, the new 991 GT3 comfortably sees off the R8 V10 RWS.

But, in the real world, more modest cars can actually be more enjoyable and rewarding. Nice test of the old Renaultsport Clio Cup, a few pages on, which emphasises the point.

Porsche911R

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265 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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gen 2 R8 v10 plus are now in the £90k's bracket so mega value if you want 600BHP in a NA V10.

RSbandit

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Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Koln-RS said:
Depends what you want and how you intend to use it.

I see, in the latest EVO, the new 991 GT3 comfortably sees off the R8 V10 RWS.

But, in the real world, more modest cars can actually be more enjoyable and rewarding. Nice test of the old Renaultsport Clio Cup, a few pages on, which emphasises the point.
I currently track the R8 4-5 times a yr ( 2 days at the ring) so don't think it would be much more than that in a diff car tbh, its been great on track but of course the GT4 will defo handle better. Problem with the new GT3 is its a £170-180k car given current used prices, that's almost double the price of a used GT4 or a 2 yr old new shape R8 V10...its surely not twice as good as either of those but a mute point as much too expensive anyway.

RSbandit

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Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Porsche911R said:
gen 2 R8 v10 plus are now in the £90k's bracket so mega value if you want 600BHP in a NA V10.
yep thats absolutely true so much car for the cash on my list to test drive as well

isaldiri

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168 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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RSbandit said:
I currently track the R8 4-5 times a yr ( 2 days at the ring) so don't think it would be much more than that in a diff car tbh, its been great on track but of course the GT4 will defo handle better.
I don't think that's necessarily a given the gt4 will handle better. the r8 is an awfully good car in many respects, especially the plus. it has some maddening aspects (brake pedal primarily being very over servo'd) but overall as a package especially for how much you track the car, the v10 is a far more attractive package. I would definitely advise a decent test drive of a gt4 first before making the switch.

RSbandit

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Wednesday 18th April 2018
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isaldiri said:
I don't think that's necessarily a given the gt4 will handle better. the r8 is an awfully good car in many respects, especially the plus. it has some maddening aspects (brake pedal primarily being very over servo'd) but overall as a package especially for how much you track the car, the v10 is a far more attractive package. I would definitely advise a decent test drive of a gt4 first before making the switch.
Fair comments there and don't get me wrong I love my V10 plus I'm just gonna test drive cars that interest me to see if anything measures up

Heaveho

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174 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I very briefly had an R8 V10 plus, having had a V8 for a longer period. I haven't driven a GT4. I lust after another V10 in a way that I don't think I ever will for a GT4, even though I've owned 3 Porsches. The Audi was a wonderful experience.

RSbandit

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Thursday 19th April 2018
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So have a test drive lined up on Monday for the yellow car at East London Porsche let's see how it goes

nudgerwilliams

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181 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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RSbandit said:
So have a test drive lined up on Monday for the yellow car at East London Porsche let's see how it goes
If Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone still have a GT4, the OPC may be able to line up a chance to drive it there. They might expect you to pay (IIRC it's something like £300 to try a car). It's a very small, tight track, but you'll get more of a feel for it when pushed than on a regular test drive.

TDT

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119 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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nudgerwilliams said:
If Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone still have a GT4, the OPC may be able to line up a chance to drive it there. They might expect you to pay (IIRC it's something like £300 to try a car). It's a very small, tight track, but you'll get more of a feel for it when pushed than on a regular test drive.
PEC is good - but you end up just going as fast you dare/are allowed to - If you have some good road around you that you know well - that then a road test might show up the differences better.

Certainly was the case for me... part of my test drive included driving 20miles back to my house taking the scenic back roads route that I usually take - immediately highlighted the differences in body control, aggression, steering, and braking vs the Cayman GTS I had at the time. Car got nice on hot, simulating a major part of how the car would be used by me, as although it does have track time that is still less than road time - deal was sealed.

boxsey

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210 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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nudgerwilliams said:
If Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone still have a GT4, the OPC may be able to line up a chance to drive it there. They might expect you to pay (IIRC it's something like £300 to try a car). It's a very small, tight track, but you'll get more of a feel for it when pushed than on a regular test drive.
I partly agree but I think that the PEC can only give a tiny insight into the ability of a GT4 (and most other P cars). It was the numerous passenger rides in friend's GT4s on circuits that made up my mind to change my Cayman R for a GT4. It was the high speed cornering and the brilliance of the brakes that impressed me the most. Neither of these abilities can be experienced properly on a road test drive or at the PEC. However, I'm sure that RS Bandit will realize this as they have plenty of experience of tracking the R8.

TDT

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Thursday 19th April 2018
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boxsey said:
I partly agree but I think that the PEC can only give a tiny insight into the ability of a GT4 (and most other P cars). It was the numerous passenger rides in friend's GT4s on circuits that made up my mind to change my Cayman R for a GT4. It was the high speed cornering and the brilliance of the brakes that impressed me the most. Neither of these abilities can be experienced properly on a road test drive or at the PEC. However, I'm sure that RS Bandit will realize this as they have plenty of experience of tracking the R8.
Also valid.