Protect your air con condensers!

Protect your air con condensers!

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dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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DJMC said:
gadgit said:
Good pictures DJMC.
It appears they removed the plastic plate on the outer edge so they fitted the grill right across the entrance?
I am thinking that I can fit a black grill in only the open area while I have the front off which should be quite easy. As my fronts are black fitting should be ok.
Were your grills always painted the colour of your car?

Gadgit
Plastic plates to outer edge are still there.
The horizontal bars were always body coloured.
How easy are these things to remove if you wish to take out extended warranty etc?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Not easy. The clips holding them in place are very grippy and bite into the plastic parts they attach to. They're designed as fit and forget and not for easy removal.

purple haze

259 posts

224 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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I recently needed to have both condensers replaced on my 987 Boxster. One had already failed and the other was not far off so it made sense to have both done at the same time. Cost for parts and labour from my local Porsche specialist was £718. Apparently a well known problem - he showed me other cars in the workshop all with the same holed condensers

purple haze

259 posts

224 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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And I forgot to mention on my last post that I then had 2 radiator grills fitted which cost £180

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Twinfan said:
Standard on all GT models, which is why it's a really annoying situation.
yes my point really. So Porsche AG fit these grills on GT3 and GT4 but not on standard models, including GTS?

I would be really curious how they would response to a potential buyer's request ? how come they do not fit these on non-GT cars?

Is there any specific technical reason on this, perhaps pope knows? I heard about air-flow argument back in the 996-986 days but never made any sense.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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My guess - there's no technical reason. Cost saving or they don't see a need on road cars, which is obviously rubbish.

gadgit

Original Poster:

971 posts

267 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Twinfan said:
My guess - there's no technical reason. Cost saving or they don't see a need on road cars, which is obviously rubbish.
The 981 list of fitting also includes the 991 and many other cars in the range.
I assume that the real reason is, porsche make money on repairs, so this is a nice little earner. We all know that nearly every other manufacturers fits covers to protect the internals but this careless attitude from Porsche will lead me possibly in other motoring directions if other areas of neglect are found that cost dearly.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the car at the moment and will complete the work on the condensers, and fit the covers.....

Gadgit

SkinnyPete

1,419 posts

149 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Meh.

Personally I like the look of the open radiators, certainly a damn sight better than sticking tacky mesh on the front.

I'll just replace mine when they need it, thx.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Yeah, dead tacky the mesh. Truly awful. Worse than that Richbrook stuff at Halfords.

rolleyes

n4aat

458 posts

212 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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SkinnyPete said:
Meh.

Personally I like the look of the open radiators, certainly a damn sight better than sticking tacky mesh on the front.

I'll just replace mine when they need it, thx.
It’s a shame they don’t look good. i would consider fitting some if They did.

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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n4aat said:
It’s a shame they don’t look good. i would consider fitting some if They did.
I thought the same, until they were fitted and I then decided I liked them.


purple haze

259 posts

224 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Agree with DJMC. My specialist went through the options for the grilles (silver or black) and showed me those already fitted to cars in the workshop, recommended black to go on my cobalt blue car and it looks just fine - better in fact than having the condensers exposed.

gadgit

Original Poster:

971 posts

267 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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If you don't like the grills it is of course posible to fit grills to the front of the condensers.
As shown in some of the pictures they do get hammered.
If you don't fit grills you can expect to have to replace the condensers every 15 to 20k miles.
My car is in mint condition, with only about 6 stone chips on the paint of any consequence which I have repaied.
Rotting condensers is also a concern, as the porsche specialist said to keep the inside front as clean as you can because a build up of leaves and muck Has been shown to rot the aluminium so they leak.
The roads around Cambridge are unbelievably bad so there are stones flying around everywhere.
My condencers have just turned up!

Gadgit

SkinnyPete

1,419 posts

149 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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gadgit said:
If you don't like the grills it is of course posible to fit grills to the front of the condensers.
As shown in some of the pictures they do get hammered.
If you don't fit grills you can expect to have to replace the condensers every 15 to 20k miles.
My car is in mint condition, with only about 6 stone chips on the paint of any consequence which I have repaied.
Rotting condensers is also a concern, as the porsche specialist said to keep the inside front as clean as you can because a build up of leaves and muck Has been shown to rot the aluminium so they leak.
The roads around Cambridge are unbelievably bad so there are stones flying around everywhere.
My condencers have just turned up!

Gadgit
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. My car has done over 50k, including track driving, lots of stone chips, but guess what, condensers are fine...

n4aat

458 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Brand new car in showroom and already two strikes.

Buzzlt

239 posts

165 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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My 987 had done 104000 before I got a strike. The old ones had dates on and were original. For a 986/996 987/997 they are 40 quid each £110 all in with a new receiver dryer and O rings. Not too hard to fit either and £50 for a regas so what does that make the badge tax ?

gadgit

Original Poster:

971 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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SkinnyPete said:
Not sure how you came to that conclusion. My car has done over 50k, including track driving, lots of stone chips, but guess what, condensers are fine...
Well some people are going to be lucky, and some will not be.
I bet you don't live near cambridge!!
Nice to hear some happy stories.

Good luck

Gadgit

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Got home one day, after passing a lumber truck on the motorway and watching a chunk of tree drop off, to find a wooden spike around 5 inches long stuck point first in one of the Zunsport front rad grilles. No damage done to the grille but would the rad have been so tough?

gadgit

Original Poster:

971 posts

267 months

Wednesday 9th May 2018
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Just in case anyone is considering replacing there own condensers, I have completed the job today. Rather than right a large story concerning how to do the job, just fire away if you are interested, many on here will not be, and I understand that.

Briefly, total time including tea, and lunch 4 hours.
This also included fitting grills on the front, with very good air flow, as the engine radiators are right behind the condensers..

Gadgit.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

111 months

Wednesday 9th May 2018
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Problem is if you wish to maintain OEM service history & warranty - I do - you are basically stuffed if the grilles cannot easily be removed and refitted.