Things I don’t like about my 981

Things I don’t like about my 981

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bcr5784

7,119 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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n4aat said:
I get it. Ergonomically the switches and knobs aren’t great. But as you say, everything else is so great it’s all there is to complain about. The parking brake switch is the one that I don’t understand. Although at least being so out of the way it is impossible to activate by accident.

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Aren't great is a bit of an understatement. As you say the handbrake is unforgivable - but heater and other controls behind the gearlever, many switches where you have to divert your eyes from the road far too much - and indicator switches whose springy action makes you (or at least me) cringe every time you use them... How do Porsche get away with it without being castigated? I'd probably say that, while aesthetically the 981 looks good internally , ergonomically, the switchgear is probably the worst I have owned in recent times.

n4aat

458 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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bcr5784 said:
Aren't great is a bit of an understatement. As you say the handbrake is unforgivable - but heater and other controls behind the gearlever, many switches where you have to divert your eyes from the road far too much - and indicator switches whose springy action makes you (or at least me) cringe every time you use them... How do Porsche get away with it without being castigated? I'd probably say that, while aesthetically the 981 looks good internally , ergonomically, the switchgear is probably the worst I have owned in recent times.
I can’t disagree with any of that.

DJMC

3,438 posts

104 months

Tuesday 15th May 2018
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Green1man said:
A few niggles of my own:

PCM/Nav - I think the unit is decent enough but why don’t they make the maps easily updatable, £2k for this and then maybe map updates available every few years at silly prices is a joke.
Here's a weird thing...

Driving an 18 plate 718 loaner two weeks ago, it's sat nav didn't know about a new bit of road built 2017 passing Coventry airport and wanted me to come off it up to the old roundabout then go back onto it again. But... my 2014 981 nav does know about the new bit of road and keeps me on it? Could it be my car has been updated without me knowing? Surely I'd have been charged for such an update by my OPC?

Oh... and while on nav, I found the 718's slower to set a destination.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
I also think they're aging nicely, unlike the 987 series which I think has echoes of the original Audi TT - too rounded. The 981 has a nice combination of sharp lines and curves to my eyes.
sharp lines date, the 987 is sexy imo.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Porsche911R said:
sharp lines date, the 987 is sexy imo.
Twinfan said:
Eye of the beholder and all that - I really don't like the looks of the 987 smile

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
Porsche911R said:
sharp lines date, the 987 is sexy imo.
Twinfan said:
Eye of the beholder and all that - I really don't like the looks of the 987 smile
very true it's all personal , I think they lost a bit of the looks in the 981, the 987 will date very well and the rear takes design from a wild cat ready to jump. Wild life designs never date. sharp lines sadly do.

981 already looks dated now the 718 is out and gone back to wild life designs ie, shark looks.
God knew how to makes things and the best way to design cars is to copy that.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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All in your opinion of course smile

The Ferrari F40 is all straight lines and "dated" I guess, but I think it still looks awesome biggrin

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
All in your opinion of course smile
Well Gods opinion lol

when designers thing they can do better they tend to date.
When they copy wild life design they stand the test of time.

As we can see the 981 looks outdated now the 718 is out.


F40 is an iconic rare car not a981 lol

bcr5784

7,119 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Fashions change (and are often cyclic) and cars are restyled as much or more to make them different to the previous model than to make them better. And, I'm afraid, there are plenty of buyers who don't want to be seen in last years model, or one whose style is currently out of fashion - which is why manufacturers do it. Cars used to be "rounded" until the late 50s, then went square, then back to rounded (remember the original Sierra) with plenty or perturbations since (think BMW)

I used to think women who slavishly followed the latest fashion were air headed, I'm afraid some men often seem to be the same when it comes to cars. The Kinks "Dedicated follower of fashion" springs to mind

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Nothing to do with the latest/best for me - I just prefer the lines of the 981 over both the 987 and the 718 smile

DJMC

3,438 posts

104 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Like any age 911 the 987 is a classic, as is the 981. 718 is the 981's poor relation design-wise as with many facelifts models of all brands and may not achieve classic status due to its engine.

dsl2

1,474 posts

202 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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The electric steering is ste on the 981, it effectively ruined the ownership of it for me.

Green1man

549 posts

89 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
Nothing to do with the latest/best for me - I just prefer the lines of the 981 over both the 987 and the 718 smile
Totally agree. The 981 design is just about visually perfect IMO. I do also like the 718 but the 981 just edges it. I like both considerably more than the 987.

Green1man

549 posts

89 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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n4aat said:
I don’t think I have ever looked at the analogue speedo. Why would you?
Exactly, it’s totally useless and either needs a complete redesign, or better put an additional programmable digital display in its place.

bcr5784

7,119 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Green1man said:
Twinfan said:
Nothing to do with the latest/best for me - I just prefer the lines of the 981 over both the 987 and the 718 smile
Totally agree. The 981 design is just about visually perfect IMO. I do also like the 718 but the 981 just edges it. I like both considerably more than the 987.
Accepting that we all have our visual preferances (me too) I really can't understand why you would choose one or other on the basis of them - rather than on dynamic issues.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Not much difference in the dynamics in the grand scheme of things though is there? Not exactly comparing a Lotus and a Rolls Royce are we, so it comes down to the bigger differences - looks (987 vs 981) and engines (981/987 vs 718).

gronk

24 posts

73 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
Not much difference in the dynamics in the grand scheme of things though is there? Not exactly comparing a Lotus and a Rolls Royce are we, so it comes down to the bigger differences - looks (987 vs 981) and engines (981/987 vs 718).
Noooooo! We’ve had 80 pages of this already...let’s not start this up again!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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gronk said:
Noooooo! We’ve had 80 pages of this already...let’s not start this up again!
laugh Certainly not trying to start *that* thread elsewhere, just making an observation smile

bcr5784

7,119 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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Twinfan said:
Not much difference in the dynamics in the grand scheme of things though is there? Not exactly comparing a Lotus and a Rolls Royce are we, so it comes down to the bigger differences - looks (987 vs 981) and engines (981/987 vs 718).
By dynamics I include steering (987 vs 981) and engine 987/981 vs 718. Are you really saying that looks trump these differences?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

105 months

Wednesday 16th May 2018
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They trump the steering for me - I'd take 981 over 987, and I did smile